will domain names become obsolete? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

paxton · 03-12-2005, 09:33 PM

50 domain names

Sneezy · 03-12-2005, 09:40 PM

old habits die hard

dready · 03-12-2005, 09:46 PM

I think they'll be around for years, especially as more TLDs are added.

DaddyHalbucks · 03-12-2005, 11:30 PM

I agree with KRL.

Domains will be around for a while, but their regulation is uncertain.

No politician gives a rat's ass about a bunch of ragtag cyber pornographers, even if we do make more money than the average Joe Mainstream, and especially since we have no strong lobbying presence.

We can ride on the coattails of mainstream companies such as Yahoo and GoDaddy that have a strong committment to the domain naming system. My domains are a major investment for me, and I hope they will make me rich.

Furious_Female · 03-12-2005, 11:48 PM

Even without a keyboard and a mouse, there still needs to be some sort of navigation and anchor to a site. Replacing domains, extensions etc etc would be impossible unless they invent something that can read our minds. How else could you find or get to a site you wanted if it doesn't have a name/label/address?

That's like saying one day there will be no towns, cities, or country names, zip codes or phone numbers.

azguy · 03-13-2005, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Female

Even without a keyboard and a mouse, there still needs to be some sort of navigation and anchor to a site. Replacing domains, extensions etc etc would be impossible unless they invent something that can read our minds. How else could you find or get to a site you wanted if it doesn't have a name/label/address?

That's like saying one day there will be no towns, cities, or country names, zip codes or phone numbers.

There will be BRANDS (words and phrases), not domains. Pretty easy. FleshLight will get you what used to be the sex toys site fleshlight.com, Coke will be cocacola.com, Suck My Cock will be a porn site of whoever purchased that brand in the new protocol. The fight will be over generic names who will have to be converted into brands due to regulations (money.com, men.com). I don't like these possiblities, but I see them coming, and I think 2015 is when we'll see this change.

But anyway, Hostage is a fucking brilliant movie... best action movie I've seen in a while.

Furious_Female · 03-13-2005, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by azguy

There will be BRANDS (words and phrases), not domains. Pretty easy. FleshLight will get you what used to be the sex toys site fleshlight.com, Coke will be cocacola.com, Suck My Cock will be a porn site of whoever purchased that brand in the new protocol. The fight will be over generic names who will have to be converted into brands due to regulations (money.com, men.com). I don't like these possiblities, but I see them coming, and I think 2015 is when we'll see this change.

But anyway, Hostage is a fucking brilliant movie... best action movie I've seen in a while.

Well, AOL has had keywords for years already but aside from that, about 5 or 6 years ago I remember they did try the whole keyword thing, I don't know what happened to the whole concept, but it obviously didn't work out. I remember Ford being one of them, where you could type ford into IE and it took you to Ford.com.

JD · 03-13-2005, 02:13 AM

if I type 'gfy' in my address bar (firefox) it takes me here.

ModelPerfect · 03-13-2005, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex

thats allready happening
LIke AOL keywords
And in FF it takes you to the first google result

AOL/SE keywords will always be supplemental. I can't see businesses investing all their advertising to primarily promote a keyword that doesn't belong to them. If they get outbid, then they either have to invest more money in a potentially ever-escalating price or let all their advertising dollars help their competition. If the keywords are "owned" or contracted, then there's really no difference between those and a domain, except that businesses would be advertising a means to get to their site via a portal that could ultimately distract and take the customer away. Businesses will always demand a way to bring a customer directly to their site whether advertised online or offline.

Drake · 03-13-2005, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KRL

Corporations have invested massive amounts of money in branding domains. You have way too much money on the table now for anything to change anytime soon.

The major threat however is not changing the domain system, but impacting it with regulations and taxation and changed cost factors.

For example it could be a disaster for domain owners under these scenarios:

1. Domains become valued on a tax appraisal system like real estate. Legislation gets passed lets say that requires domain owners to pay "property taxes" on top of their annual reg fees. Imagine the annual property tax bite on someone who has thousands of valuable domains.

2. Annual reg fees get changed from uniform fees to fees based on the estimated assessed value of the domain.

3. You are no longer allowed to own a primary domain and just sit on it and send it to a PPC type deal. All domains have to be developed into functioning sites related to the theme of the domain.

See my point? Its the politicians and the lawyers that could really make things unprofitable fast.

Interesting thoughts

grumpy · 03-13-2005, 05:37 AM

extensions etc will disapear. Im convinced of that.

grumpy · 03-13-2005, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by paxton

50 domain names

you dont have much usefull to say do you. Typical sig whore.

Rui · 03-13-2005, 06:44 AM

azguy - please stop posting in this thread...PLEASE!

Shaze · 03-13-2005, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Montana

we will all soon be typing 125 char ip's in hex decimal

IPv6 is going to be a bitch.

azguy · 03-13-2005, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui

azguy - please stop posting in this thread...PLEASE!

:food-smil

paxton · 03-13-2005, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by grumpy

you dont have much usefull to say do you. Typical sig whore.

Actually, I have a lot of useful (<---- please notice spelling) things to say about domains. It's just customary on GFY to "christen" the top of each new thread page with a similar message.

As for this topic, I disagree with Alex's comments about branding, I disagree with KRL's example that taxes can be assessed (no governing body has such global power at present), and I already said on page one that I agreed 100% with Ron Bennet's comments. The typein, generic domains I own are considered perpetual sources of income. I don't see these revenue sources dying off in my lifetime. In fact, with the billions of people expected to come online in the next few years, I expect that PPC revenue will only increase at an exaggerated level.

This is the calm before the storm. The interweb is going to explode.

Perhaps, I am a sig whore, grumpy. But since you quote the page 2 "fifty post" that makes you a moron, and somewhat of a hypocrite.

So

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Illicit · 03-13-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by paxton

Actually, I have a lot of useful (<---- please notice spelling) things to say about domains. It's just customary on GFY to "christen" the top of each new thread page with a similar message.

As for this topic, I disagree with Alex's comments about branding, I disagree with KRL's example that taxes can be assessed (no governing body has such global power at present), and I already said on page one that I agreed 100% with Ron Bennet's comments. The typein, generic domains I own are considered perpetual sources of income. I don't see these revenue sources dying off in my lifetime. In fact, with the billions of people expected to come online in the next few years, I expect that PPC revenue will only increase at an exaggerated level.

This is the calm before the storm. The interweb is going to explode.

Perhaps, I am a sig whore, grumpy. But since you quote the page 2 "fifty post" that makes you a moron, and somewhat of a hypocrite.

So

.

Nice Reply... Although you could say each country owns their tld for taxation purposes. The original tld's started in the US so they get those too

bret · 03-13-2005, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by azguy

.com is a stupid extension when you think about it. Funny how it ended up like this. I think we will see a major change around 2012-2015. Don't know what, but I think .com will lose its value. I don't buy this 'it's prime real-estate' crap... It's just a very very very long fad, but it will be phased out somehow. Remember this thread (check it in 2012 on web://gofuckyourself

).

you think web:// will replace the http:// protocol???

do you have ANY clue how stupid that statement is?

talk about totally discrediting your statement. and .com is going NO where. its the goddamn flagship of TLDs.

grumpy · 03-13-2005, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxton

Actually, I have a lot of useful (<---- please notice spelling) things to say about domains. It's just customary on GFY to "christen" the top of each new thread page with a similar message.

As for this topic, I disagree with Alex's comments about branding, I disagree with KRL's example that taxes can be assessed (no governing body has such global power at present), and I already said on page one that I agreed 100% with Ron Bennet's comments. The typein, generic domains I own are considered perpetual sources of income. I don't see these revenue sources dying off in my lifetime. In fact, with the billions of people expected to come online in the next few years, I expect that PPC revenue will only increase at an exaggerated level.

This is the calm before the storm. The interweb is going to explode.

Perhaps, I am a sig whore, grumpy. But since you quote the page 2 "fifty post" that makes you a moron, and somewhat of a hypocrite.

So

.

not the smartest one on the block either...are you.

azguy · 03-13-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bret

you think web:// will replace the http:// protocol???

do you have ANY clue how stupid that statement is?

talk about totally discrediting your statement. and .com is going NO where. its the goddamn flagship of TLDs.

I think there will be browsers that will use different protocols to acquire data. HTTP is old, and with new protocols coming our way, TLDs will be old-fashioned.

I still think .coms will disappear eventually and be replaced by trademarked brands (Keywords will be back big-time). If the `people` don't cause this - regulations will. I can, however, understand those who refuse to see this change coming. It's not like I want this to happen (domains are a part of what I do for a living), but on a purely objective assessment - I'm pretty sure I'm right.

grumpy · 03-13-2005, 03:08 PM

new technologys will bring new possiblities. Might take a while but it will happen.
Why use a compass these days if you have gps.

azguy · 03-13-2005, 03:11 PM

that web:// thing was an example to how relatively easy it will be to introduce new technologies. Existing ones are not enough to what the entertainment audience will demand in 2015. With that change - TLDs will not be necessary any more. Time will tell. I'm tired of this discussion.. we all have different views on this subject, clearly.

DVTimes · 03-13-2005, 03:28 PM

As long as web pages are on the net then there will be web names.

However the chances are we will move to a version 2 or even 3 of the web. This may be different to anything we have now.

I suspect that such as web TV (connected direct to the TV), and web radio will not use web names.

The web will have more and more to do with other gadgets wifi than it does at the moment with pc's.

I would suspect that web TV will become big.

The question will be, will people still pay $20 to join a website full of a few picks and low quality vid clips or want to download DVD quality films direct to there TV and DVD recorder.

Broadband and wifi have changed the net into an entertainment system.

Pornwolf · 03-13-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

I think that the SE's and the Net will be so big, that everything will work like an auto fill in form. as soon as you start to type. or maybe speak, with will start moving that way.

This is what I see happening. The net is getting more intuitive. Notice how we used to have to type whole http://www.domainaddress.com into the url now we only have to domainaddress.com.

Now with most browsers we are getting closer to just having to type in keywords to get the results.

As webmasters who are generally ahead of the curve we still type specific addresses but my dear old aunt Millie from Peoria only understands keywords which go to google/aol/msn/yahoo search resilts pages. That process will be simplified for people like her. That will spell the end of domains being as important as IP's.

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azguy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 5,167	that web:// thing was an example to how relatively easy it will be to introduce new technologies. Existing ones are not enough to what the entertainment audience will demand in 2015. With that change - TLDs will not be necessary any more. Time will tell. I'm tired of this discussion.. we all have different views on this subject, clearly.

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DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,547	As long as web pages are on the net then there will be web names. However the chances are we will move to a version 2 or even 3 of the web. This may be different to anything we have now. I suspect that such as web TV (connected direct to the TV), and web radio will not use web names. The web will have more and more to do with other gadgets wifi than it does at the moment with pc's. I would suspect that web TV will become big. The question will be, will people still pay $20 to join a website full of a few picks and low quality vid clips or want to download DVD quality films direct to there TV and DVD recorder. Broadband and wifi have changed the net into an entertainment system. __________________ The Affiliate Program