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Old 03-04-2005, 07:26 PM   #51
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something smells fishy, and its not shoehorns sister this time
Thats about as funny as when your mom puked while giving me head.
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Ok this is getting interesting, I think I am figuring something out here:

If you have the time please read my thoughts I posted on surfer vs. affiliate traffic in another thread today:



So my question to you still remains, since you are so good at SEO, and we all agree that huge money can be made in it, why do you want to open a webmaster program so badly. Wouldn't it be more profitable in the long run to work the search engines yourself?

Please let me know where my logic is off.

Thanks
I want to send traffic to my own program. I want all of the rebill $$$. I don't want to get shaved, nor do I wish to continue thinking that I am getting shaved. My webmaster program will address that by offering 20 niche specific sites.. to capitalize on most of the popular niches. I will create a whole new matrix just to send to my program with no ref links. I have always felt I'm missing out on the recurring $$$.

I'll never give up the search engines.


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Old 03-04-2005, 07:33 PM   #55
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Yahoo is extremely easy to manipulate for top rankings, but the offer sounds good for someone that doesn't know the SEO ropes.
Agreed with Yahoo, I would like to see some google examples for people considering signing up. From my experience with SEO, for 1,000 dollars shared consultation with 40 others and a two week follow up just seems expensive and counterproductive.

I find it hard to trust anyone who says invest in your business by learning with me, and I don?t invest in my ventures to make money
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Old 03-04-2005, 07:35 PM   #56
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Agreed with Yahoo, I would like to see some google examples for people considering signing up. From my experience with SEO, for 1,000 dollars shared consultation with 40 others and a two week follow up just seems expensive and counterproductive.

I find it hard to trust anyone who says invest in your business by learning with me, and I don?t invest in my ventures to make money
You are always welcome to test me for free...

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You too, are always welcome to test me for free...

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Old 03-04-2005, 07:55 PM   #58
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Thanks for the offer and I love yahoo traffic. I am no SEO expert, yet with yahoo I do fine on my own, so can you give any examples with Goggle's traffic?
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we can do the seo course next month... no problem.

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I'll give you $1000 for 2 hours face-to-face time (1 on 1) + the follow up. I'll flyout to anywhere you are in North America.

Whatever I learn better be worth it or else people will be postin':
"Whatever happened to AdvertisingSex?"

I understand if you can't publicly accept this offer. If you like, post your decline here then email me your acceptance.

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Old 03-04-2005, 09:30 PM   #61
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I'm giving 4 hour SEO seminars with my IRC bot for only $1,000, hit me up for more information! Paypal only!
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Old 03-04-2005, 09:47 PM   #62
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I'll give you $1000 for 2 hours face-to-face time (1 on 1) + the follow up. I'll flyout to anywhere you are in North America.

Whatever I learn better be worth it or else people will be postin':
"Whatever happened to AdvertisingSex?"

I understand if you can't publicly accept this offer. If you like, post your decline here then email me your acceptance.

webmaster at pornhero dot com

You can learn what I teach you in the comfort of your own home/office. Try me for a month... we can go from there.

No one said we had to do the seminar anytime this month... next month is fine if you are happy with your results.

That seems fair.

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and it is free - to be honest, with only 200k results, on Yahoo . . . not that impressive
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:14 PM   #64
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and it is free - to be honest, with only 200k results, on Yahoo . . . not that impressive

Thanks for the bump.. I have to be honest though.. none of the seo's I know have anything good to say about AdultSEM.com



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Of course not. We give away for free, info they are trying to sell.
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:20 PM   #66
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Sorry, I didn't know that was your program. I thought you were better than a thread jacker. My bad.

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Well, if we had not been jacked around so much by your "partner" I probably wouldn't have even opened the thread
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Ok. I believe you. I knew you were better than that.

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Old 03-04-2005, 10:25 PM   #69
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I do not want to spend my money to finish the program. I want to fund it by offering service.

It's true that you're not supposed to invest your own money in a business.

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Yes, it's true...when you have no faith in the outcome of the business..
or you simply don't have the cash.
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Yes, it's true...when you have no faith in the outcome of the business..
or you simply don't have the cash.
I don't want to argue with you,,,but, you are wrong. Ask any business professor. He will tell you the same thing. I bet you won't though. You seem like the type of person who is never wrong.

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you need 50k to fund a new project so you are selling the "secrets" to SEO?
If you made real money on search engines you

a) would never tell anyone unless u were oober rich
b) would have 50k

sounds fishy.
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sounds fishy.
You too, are always welcome to test me for free...

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where did i go wrong then? why do this?
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where did i go wrong then? why do this?
teaching 40 webmasters about seo and using the $$$ to open my webmaster program is worth it to me. It's only 40 webmasters and I won't have to spend any of my current income on the program.

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I don't want to argue with you,,,but, you are wrong. Ask any business professor. He will tell you the same thing. I bet you won't though. You seem like the type of person who is never wrong.

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Wasn't a personal attack Ray. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

But it's funny you mentioned business professors. There's a reason the majority of them are teaching and not millionaires. Keyword, majority.

And you're right..my business professor did tell me the same thing. And if i had listened to him, i would not be where i am now. I don't believe he was wrong, he was teaching it by the book..and it just wasn't my way of doing things. I didn't want to wait till all the stars and moons were all perfectly aligned before getting something off the ground, ex. your three years.
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Wasn't a personal attack Ray. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

But it's funny you mentioned business professors. There's a reason the majority of them are teaching and not millionaires. Keyword, majority.

And you're right..my business professor did tell me the same thing. And if i had listened to him, i would not be where i am now. I don't believe he was wrong, he was just teaching by the book..and it just wasn't my way of doing things. I didn't want to wait till all the stars and moons were all perfectly aligned before getting something off the ground, ex. your three years.
But to each their own.
I'm not mad... just tired.. got up too early.



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that tag expired in 1999. show your current one.


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LOL, this thread is a joke.

$1k so that he tells you how to spam Yahoo ?

Ask for his google listings. There are none.
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$1k so that he tells you how to spam Yahoo ?

Ask for his google listings. There are none.
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What is there to test ? All your traffic comes from spamming the fuck out of Yahoo.

Why don't you show us your google listings ?
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This thread is a joke, ...hahaha, some funny BS being spewed here
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The "help" you're offering can be found free on the net and forums or @ 400/hour or less for 1-on-1 session.

Your rankings are far from impressive, and i'm no seo expert.
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SEO is not rocket science........... Just sit down and look and think about it.....work it out!
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I don't get this... for 1000 bucks I could talk more than 3 hours to ten times better SEO's.

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It's not "SEO" when you have a full page of results linking to the same guy's website. That's search engine spam.

I hope this course isn't about writing programs to autosubmit your link to web blogs and vulnerable websites that allow URL posting. That would be considered short term SEO spam, not long term legitimate SEO. Long term productive SEO is all about looking professional to your customers AND being popular. You have to draw the line between quantity and quality. People can report your website as spamming the engines you know.. any visitor can, any competitor can.

Do you realize that if you have a full page of search results that all point to the same guy's site, that people get annoyed and your profits actually go down? 1-2 sites in a result is enough.

When I charge for SEO consulting, I base it on the size of the company. Not every webmaster needs to fork out $1K . You do a profile of the customer first. Everyone has different needs - from small 1 man business start ups willing to pay you 200 for some advice to fortune 500 companies who will hire you for a 1 year+ on-going contract based on your performance results.

It's not possible to learn SEO in 2 hours on a chat program. Maybe a couple tips, but those tips you could find publically available on webmasterboards.com

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SEO is not that difficult. You need to concentrate on a SE at a time, and learn all the tricks for it.
Then move to the next one, etc...
I know I will get shit for it, but I still like WebPosition to optimize my sites. Then I add to those pages what I've learned in my scarce free time, and my positions are not too shabby.
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Learn how to build your own SEO matrix.

2 hours in a closed irc chat room with an SEO expert. Going over how to build your matrix for the keywords you want. Get the search engine placements you desire.

Who needs this?

Anybody that cannot get the search engine placements they desire.

What will you recieve?

Real honest answers to SEO. Not canned board answers that will have you spinning in circles.

Due to the fact this information is highly guarded and not public knowledge. There will be a limit of 50 people able to sign up for this.

Who is doing the seminar? Ray aka AdvertisingSex

Why is he doing this? The proceeds will go to fund his newest project. (You'll want to watch for that also)

Cost? $1000.00

This is not a high price at all for real SEO answers. Many SEO seminars cost upwards of $1000.00 and only really offer 1 hour of training in actual SEO. What this information will do for your online business is amazing.

Source: http://www.highrankings.com/spring05-seo-seminar.htm

Notice in that ad there is only 45 minutes of real SEO and the rest is fluff. This will be 2 hours of SEO no fluff.


Don't think it can be done?

Do a search on yahoo for ashlee simpson nude out of the first 20 links the 13 are owned by the SEO moderator. The whole 3rd page is his also.

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Old 03-15-2005, 10:24 PM   #93
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nice try... if you're so good at SEO you should have no trouble getting in $40K in affiliate earnings in, let's say, 3 months?
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But the next thing is that we will see him telling someone how he makes sooooo much more money than they do or about the hot new car he got or something like that!
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or you could go to seochat or searchenginewatch and read every fucking thing they have on there and develop your own long term SEO philosophy. I'm doing the same thing now that I did when I first got into adult webmastering. I read EVERYTHING that I could find on the subject. That's how I survived.

It's always cheaper, more efficient, and more rewarding to put in your own "sweat equity"
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Hey, just came across this thread and thought it was interesting. I'll be honest, there is a lot of money to be made in SEO in the adult industry.

Have a few questions and concerns regarding this offer. Please don't take offense to the post, just would like your feedback and thoughts about this.

First, Ashlee Simpson nude isn't a very tough term to rank for on Yahoo!. I could throw a few blog links to it and be there in a couple weeks. Another issue is that no one searches that phrase. It seems nice on paper, but running traffic estimators on Overture and Adwords shows that no one is really searching it. I tend to go for terms with high search volume.

With that said, do you have some other examples? Yahoo! is great, but I think most of us here prefer to rank on Google. Also, are there any other terms you rank for?

Not knocking your SEO or anything, but if someone is going to pay $1000 for a course, I think it should be taught by someone ranking for more than 1 term on the 2nd best engine.
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Ok this is getting interesting, I think I am figuring something out here:

If you have the time please read my thoughts I posted on surfer vs. affiliate traffic in another thread today:



So my question to you still remains, since you are so good at SEO, and we all agree that huge money can be made in it, why do you want to open a webmaster program so badly. Wouldn't it be more profitable in the long run to work the search engines yourself?

Please let me know where my logic is off.

Thanks
Really?? Really? Owning a webmaster program can produce millions a month in revenue with very little time spent working as a manager/owner. Why the fuck wouldnt you want to do this instead of relying on your own work and when something happens to your traffic method you dont have anything left? Diversify by allowing hundreds or thousands of webmasters to send traffic.
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