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JFPdude 03-04-2005 05:11 PM
Want to learn SEO ?
 
Learn how to build your own SEO matrix.

2 hours in a closed irc chat room with an SEO expert. Going over how to build your matrix for the keywords you want. Get the search engine placements you desire.

Who needs this?

Anybody that cannot get the search engine placements they desire.

What will you recieve?

Real honest answers to SEO. Not canned board answers that will have you spinning in circles.

Due to the fact this information is highly guarded and not public knowledge. There will be a limit of 50 people able to sign up for this.

Who is doing the seminar? Ray aka AdvertisingSex

Why is he doing this? The proceeds will go to fund his newest project. (You'll want to watch for that also)

Cost? $1000.00

This is not a high price at all for real SEO answers. Many SEO seminars cost upwards of $1000.00 and only really offer 1 hour of training in actual SEO. What this information will do for your online business is amazing.

Source: http://www.highrankings.com/spring05-seo-seminar.htm

Notice in that ad there is only 45 minutes of real SEO and the rest is fluff. This will be 2 hours of SEO no fluff.


Don't think it can be done?

Do a search on yahoo for ashlee simpson nude out of the first 20 links the 13 are owned by the SEO moderator. The whole 3rd page is his also.

The chat will be moderated so that only people who have paid will be able to ask questions. People who haven't paid will not be allowed access.

Want to register? Email seo (at) htmlplace dot com


Bonus: Everyone who signs up will recieve 2 weeks free follow up via aim or ICQ. So thats 2 hours of pure SEO information and 2 free weeks of follow up on AIM or ICQ.

See the results for yourself

pornstar2pac 03-04-2005 05:12 PM
I bought the ebook, thanks

clickclickclick 03-04-2005 05:14 PM
i hired www.valueweb.com for all my traffic needs


jk

Tanker 03-04-2005 05:14 PM
very nice guys


good luck with it that should be good for anyone that takes up the offer

mufas 03-04-2005 05:14 PM
2 hours in a closed irc chat room with an SEO expert.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

JFPdude 03-04-2005 05:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
I bought the ebook, thanks
Cool what did you get out of it? Have any top placements? :error

JFPdude 03-04-2005 05:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanker
very nice guys


good luck with it that should be good for anyone that takes up the offer
Thanks man.

Hit me up on ICQ sometime ... been a while since we chatted. :thumbsup

JFPdude 03-04-2005 05:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by clickclickclick
i hired www.valueweb.com for all my traffic needs


jk

Hope they got better at thier services. When I hosted with them years ago I was on the phone many hours a day trying to get stuff working.

clickclickclick 03-04-2005 05:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JFPdude
Hope they got better at thier services. When I hosted with them years ago I was on the phone many hours a day trying to get stuff working.
i just picked them coz it was advertised in wired while i was on the can.

IMO, its not hard getting on yahoo. ive seen those "matrix" before. but does ur price include software?

kmanrox 03-04-2005 05:22 PM
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JFPdude 03-04-2005 05:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by clickclickclick
i just picked them coz it was advertised in wired while i was on the can.

IMO, its not hard getting on yahoo. ive seen those "matrix" before. but does ur price include software?
No software needed. I stated real answers.

WiredGuy 03-04-2005 05:28 PM
Is this the same guy who was outlashing at xxxjay for not knowing what he's doing because he partnered up with iwebmasters to offer SEO consulting at discounted prices?

WG

JFPdude 03-04-2005 05:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Is this the same guy who was outlashing at xxxjay for not knowing what he's doing because he partnered up with iwebmasters to offer SEO consulting at discounted prices?

WG

Don't believe so ... Link?

JFPdude 03-04-2005 05:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Is this the same guy who was outlashing at xxxjay for not knowing what he's doing because he partnered up with iwebmasters to offer SEO consulting at discounted prices?

WG
I stand corrected but you can see which way that conversation turned.

Fatalspeed 03-04-2005 05:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Is this the same guy who was outlashing at xxxjay for not knowing what he's doing because he partnered up with iwebmasters to offer SEO consulting at discounted prices?

WG
yes he is... he was also very desperate to sell his sites. If you checked out the site he was trying to sell for $40k, it are all duplicated pages just with a different name and 4 pictures, im not sure if that's what he calls SEO?

JFPdude 03-04-2005 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatalspeed
yes he is... he was also very desperate to sell his sites. If you checked out the site he was trying to sell for $40k, it are all duplicated pages just with a different name and 4 pictures, im not sure if that's what he calls SEO?
I don't see him being desperate to sell his sites. He offered them for sale and nobody wanted to pay what they were worth. Therefore he decided to keep them.

Alex 03-04-2005 05:37 PM
But the unpaid can watch thoug...

JFPdude 03-04-2005 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
But the unpaid can watch thoug...
No they can't.

kmanrox 03-04-2005 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Is this the same guy who was outlashing at xxxjay for not knowing what he's doing because he partnered up with iwebmasters to offer SEO consulting at discounted prices?

WG

um no... this is kmanrox i changed my name.

kmanrox 03-04-2005 05:45 PM
oh WG, you're referring to someone else my bust

budz 03-04-2005 05:47 PM
SEO's do it optimized

xenigo 03-04-2005 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
I bought the ebook, thanks
can you post a link?

JSA Matt 03-04-2005 05:51 PM
I'm giving 4 hour SEO seminars with my IRC bot for only $1,000, hit me up for more information! Paypal only!

~Ray 03-04-2005 05:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Is this the same guy who was outlashing at xxxjay for not knowing what he's doing because he partnered up with iwebmasters to offer SEO consulting at discounted prices?

WG
Yes, this is only on if/when I get at least 40 webmasters wanting to learn seo.

That makes it worth it to me.

~Ray

~Ray 03-04-2005 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatalspeed
yes he is... he was also very desperate to sell his sites. If you checked out the site he was trying to sell for $40k, it are all duplicated pages just with a different name and 4 pictures, im not sure if that's what he calls SEO?
I would think you'd be more interested in the results of the pages in the search engines.

But, you are right, those pages are all similar.

~Ray

~Ray 03-04-2005 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSA Matt
I'm giving 4 hour SEO seminars with my IRC bot for only $1,000, hit me up for more information! Paypal only!
and 2 weeks follow up? Good deal.. let's see some of your results.

~Ray

pornstar2pac 03-04-2005 05:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xenigo
can you post a link?

no, find it in google and pay for the book.





i did

WiredGuy 03-04-2005 06:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
Yes, this is only on if/when I get at least 40 webmasters wanting to learn seo.

That makes it worth it to me.

~Ray

Don't take this the wrong way, but I get the impression you really need 40k. The last thread where you were looking to sell your sites for around 40k didn't pan out (not sure why), and now you're looking for 40 webmasters at 1k a piece? Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but 1k for a 2 hour consultation with 40 other webmasters doesn't seem like a good deal to me. Factoring how much time it takes to get a response over irc, i doubt each webmaster would get more than 1 question answered. Good luck in this, but I doubt you'd get more than a few webmasters interestedin.

WG

~Ray 03-04-2005 06:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Don't take this the wrong way, but I get the impression you really need 40k. The last thread where you were looking to sell your sites for around 40k didn't pan out (not sure why), and now you're looking for 40 webmasters at 1k a piece? Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but 1k for a 2 hour consultation with 40 other webmasters doesn't seem like a good deal to me. Factoring how much time it takes to get a response over irc, i doubt each webmaster would get more than 1 question answered. Good luck in this, but I doubt you'd get more than a few webmasters interestedin.

WG
Yes, I need $40k to finish my webmaster program. It's been in the planning for 3 years.
You are right, I don't want to spend my money to finish. I want to offer a service and use that money to finish.

I'm also offering a 2 week follow up for free. I see your point about IRC.

Thanks,

~Ray

~Ray 03-04-2005 06:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Don't take this the wrong way, but I get the impression you really need 40k. The last thread where you were looking to sell your sites for around 40k didn't pan out (not sure why), and now you're looking for 40 webmasters at 1k a piece? Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but 1k for a 2 hour consultation with 40 other webmasters doesn't seem like a good deal to me. Factoring how much time it takes to get a response over irc, i doubt each webmaster would get more than 1 question answered. Good luck in this, but I doubt you'd get more than a few webmasters interestedin.

WG
I can hold four 2 hour sessions with 10 webmasters at a time. Still get the free 2 week follow up.

Just a thought.

~Ray

Alex 03-04-2005 06:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Don't take this the wrong way, but I get the impression you really need 40k. The last thread where you were looking to sell your sites for around 40k didn't pan out (not sure why), and now you're looking for 40 webmasters at 1k a piece? Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but 1k for a 2 hour consultation with 40 other webmasters doesn't seem like a good deal to me. Factoring how much time it takes to get a response over irc, i doubt each webmaster would get more than 1 question answered. Good luck in this, but I doubt you'd get more than a few webmasters interestedin.

WG

Well said.

I was too shocked at the 1k price

If it was 10 webmasters and about 2hrs and $250 a pice i would of paid
That comes out to 1250 an hour

A couple of sessions and you have you 40k

Alex 03-04-2005 06:11 PM
I mean why pay 500/hr with a s.e.o consultant when you dont even get the one on one

Sami or xxxjay do it for $200-$300/hr and its one on one

mitzvah 03-04-2005 06:12 PM
With all due respect, I would think most people would prefer to learn SEO from someone that had 40k on hand without having to sell domains or run seminars.

I thought there was 'good' money in SEO, or maybe WG's signature is correct ;)

WiredGuy 03-04-2005 06:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
I mean why pay 500/hr with a s.e.o consultant when you dont even get the one on one

Sami or xxxjay do it for $200-$300/hr and its one on one

I was just going to say the exact same thing, swami and xxxjay offer one on one consulting for about half the price.

WG

Alex 03-04-2005 06:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WiredGuy
I was just going to say the exact same thing, swami and xxxjay offer one on one consulting for about half the price.

WG
Damn when WG agrees with you on any matter that has to do with s.e.o you know you are good : :winkwink:

~Ray 03-04-2005 06:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mitzvah
With all due respect, I would think most people would prefer to learn SEO from someone that had 40k on hand without having to sell domains or run seminars.

I thought there was 'good' money in SEO, or maybe WG's signature is correct ;)
I do not want to spend my money to finish the progra,. I want to fund it by offering service.

It's true that you're not supposed to invest your own money in a business.

~Ray

~Ray 03-04-2005 06:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
Well said.

I was too shocked at the 1k price

If it was 10 webmasters and about 2hrs and $250 a pice i would of paid
That comes out to 1250 an hour

A couple of sessions and you have you 40k
I understand completely. I have to make it worth my time to offer the 2 weeks free folow up. I'll look at your pages, links, etc.. and, you should see better results within 2 weeks, so I'm offering you tips for free until you get the good ranks.

I need to raise $40k to fund my program. I'm not going to use my persinal funds to pay for it. If there are 40 webmasters that want to learn how to get more search engine traffic on ONE keyword.. then you can take what you know about that ONE keyword and have high ranks for as many keywords as you want.

Is there not 40 people that want to learn how to get higher rankings for alomost any keyword. You could use it for life. Open a program and feed it yourself. Send quality traffic to your own sites where you know you are not being shaved. That should be anyone's goal.

I'm just saying, there are a lot of ways to think about an investment.

~Ray

Alex 03-04-2005 06:34 PM
What do you mean not your own funds?

You aer going to provide a service
People will pay you, the funds will now be yours.
SO you still use them to fund the program

~Ray 03-04-2005 06:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pornstar2pac
I bought the ebook, thanks
Does that book talk about how to mix in adult webmaster links amongst regulaer adult terms in the search engines... to attract adult webmasters surfing their SERP's and surfers wanting to get in the "biz"...?

#7 AdvertisingSex
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=ash...gle=1&ei=UTF-8

bringer 03-04-2005 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
Does that book talk about how to mix in adult webmaster links amongst regulaer adult terms in the search engines... to attract adult webmasters surfing their SERP's and surfers wanting to get in the "biz"...?

#7 AdvertisingSex
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=ash...gle=1&ei=UTF-8
http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p=...p=1&.intl =us
chapter 3
get page 1 listing and redirect

Alex 03-04-2005 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
Does that book talk about how to mix in adult webmaster links amongst regulaer adult terms in the search engines... to attract adult webmasters surfing their SERP's and surfers wanting to get in the "biz"...?

#7 AdvertisingSex
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=ash...gle=1&ei=UTF-8

Waste of a good keyword listing

~Ray 03-04-2005 06:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
What do you mean not your own funds?

You aer going to provide a service
People will pay you, the funds will now be yours.
SO you still use them to fund the program
Yes, I'm using funds from this service to fund my project. The normal money I make from my matrix will not be touched. If my program fails for some reason. I won't be flat ass broke.

This is like a promotion to raise $40k and finish my program without touching my current income. All of this $$$ goes to the program.

Thanks,
~Ray

~Ray 03-04-2005 06:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex
Waste of a good keyword listing
All of those NCN links around it are mine. Guess I should have mentioned that.

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=ash...gle=1&ei=UTF-8


~Ray

~Ray 03-04-2005 06:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bringer
http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p=...p=1&.intl =us
chapter 3
get page 1 listing and redirect

Come get your diploma.

~Ray

bringer 03-04-2005 06:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
Come get your diploma.

~Ray
thats ok, im happy with my current listings

thanks though

AdultNex 03-04-2005 06:52 PM
Yahoo is extremely easy to manipulate for top rankings, but the offer sounds good for someone that doesn't know the SEO ropes.

tungsten 03-04-2005 06:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JFPdude
I don't see him being desperate to sell his sites. He offered them for sale and nobody wanted to pay what they were worth. Therefore he decided to keep them.
what other option did he have?

PornHero 03-04-2005 06:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
Yes, I'm using funds from this service to fund my project. The normal money I make from my matrix will not be touched. If my program fails for some reason. I won't be flat ass broke.

This is like a promotion to raise $40k and finish my program without touching my current income. All of this $$$ goes to the program.

Thanks,
~Ray
This isn't meant to bash you in any way, I have read this thread with interest, but if you are a SEO expert why will losing $40,000 in your webmaster program make you flat ass broke?

And why are you starting a webmaster program if you are a SEO expert? What kind of webmaster program is it. Maybe I am missing something. Sorry for my ignorance.

I wouldn't say I am an SEO expert but the money I make from them is crazy and I am sure I only know 1/10th what you know.

I was actually considering taking a lesson til i read about your financial situation.

My advice is to take your seo knowledge and make $40,000 in the search engines with it. That's only 1333 signups if you earn $30/signup. Its been 3 years, if you are that good, in a few months you will have the $40,000 plus whatever you build in those months on the asset side of your balance sheet. :2 cents:

~Ray 03-04-2005 07:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PornHero
This isn't meant to bash you in any way, I have read this thread with interest, but if you are a SEO expert why will losing $40,000 in your webmaster program make you flat ass broke?

And why are you starting a webmaster program if you are a SEO expert? What kind of webmaster program is it. Maybe I am missing something. Sorry for my ignorance.

I wouldn't say I am an SEO expert but the money I make from them is crazy and I am sure I only know 1/10th what you know.

I was actually considering taking a lesson til i read about your financial situation.

My advice is to take your seo knowledge and make $40,000 in the search engines with it. That's only 1333 signups if you earn $30/signup. Its been 3 years, if you are that good, in a few months you will have the $40,000 plus whatever you build in those months on the asset side of your balance sheet. :2 cents:

You are right. I misquoted the broke thing.I meant, If I lose the $40k on the program... I'll still have my matrix money savings account. I don't want to put a dent in that if I can raise the money quickly offering seo advice that anyone can do. This is a great way for me to network too, so when my program opens, many of the webmasters I meet and have met, might actually use their seo knowledge to push my program.

~Ray

PornHero 03-04-2005 07:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex
You are right. I misquoted the broke thing.I meant, If I lose the $40k on the program... I'll still have my matrix money savings account. I don't want to put a dent in that if I can raise the money quickly offering seo advice that anyone can do. This is a great way for me to network too, so when my program opens, many of the webmasters I meet and have met, might actually use their seo knowledge to push my program.

~Ray
Ok this is getting interesting, I think I am figuring something out here:

If you have the time please read my thoughts I posted on surfer vs. affiliate traffic in another thread today:

Quote:
Originally Posted by PornHero

What I think you are talking about here is how to best LEVERAGE your time.

Do you spend time getting your own surfer traffic or affiliate traffic?

I think it would be easier to get surfer traffic in this day and age than affiliates to promote your program. The # of webmasters out there are FINITE and their time LIMITED. Even if an adultwebmaster likes what he/she sees in your program it takes alot for them to take the time to sign up, add your links to their sites and push traffic to you. You have alot of big companies with deep pockets and new fresh sites/content coming out all the time. Those are the ones that are always at the top of my list.

Surfer traffic for all intents and purposes is INFINITE.
There are millions of people around the world searching for porn everyday. But the key is they are not all searching for the same thing! The niches/types/fetishes of these millions of surfers are virtually UNLIMITED when compared to the number of webmasters trying to serve them. In fact we dont have enough adultwebmasters to serve all the niches yet. lol, i cant beleive i just wrote that but its true. :1orglaugh

For example... have you heard of of the porn niche Dogging? Neither did I until this morning. Here's a hint, it doesnt refer to bestiality at all.

Type in "dogging porn" into google (with the quotes), its a joke the little amount of results that come up.

But Dogging is starting to gain a foothold and if it continues I know its just a matter of time (may be a year or two but they're coming) before the first big sponsor like TopBucks or NastyDollars comes out with a Dogging site. And I'll be all over that mofo when they do :pimp

Now if you have an affiliate program how are you going to captialize on all this Dogging traffic? If you are a 1 to 3-man sponsor operation please let me know how you'd do it in a profitable, timely, aggressive manner that competes with the big boys.

But if you were concentrating on surfer traffic there are a myriad of ways to start getting dogging traffic almost overnight.

So to get back to my point, your average affiliate program is dealing with a finite amount of adultwebmasters, a finite niche, and competing with some pretty big heavyhitters.

Whereas a webmaster that is dealing with surfer traffic has 100's of millions of potentional surfers, Unlimited niches and a wide assortment of affiliate programs to choose from. And let me tell you, you dont have to worry about competing with the finite amount of adult webmasters, there is plenty of money to be made in surfer traffic if you know what you are doing.

Now the question of where to the send the surfers is a good one. I must admit from my firsthand experience that certain free/with creditcard sponsors that pay you a nice chunk of change for a free signup are extremely profitable. And I have also experienced some great rebills on recurring sales. Either way, I always preach you should always diversify your assets, never have ALL your eggs in one basket, whether thats servers, domains, sponsors, or pay types (pps, recurring).

Sorry for the long ass post, I hope it makes sense to some of you, not everyone will get it, this is Advanced Leverage Management 301. :thumbsup
So my question to you still remains, since you are so good at SEO, and we all agree that huge money can be made in it, why do you want to open a webmaster program so badly. Wouldn't it be more profitable in the long run to work the search engines yourself?

Please let me know where my logic is off.

Thanks :)


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