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swoop · 02-15-2005, 05:20 AM

I'll miss you

WankTank · 02-15-2005, 05:21 AM

Its sad.
They're even saying 20% of the players will retire before the NHL comes back, which means most of the superstars.

tungsten · 02-15-2005, 05:23 AM

nhl fucked up this year

Gottis · 02-15-2005, 05:30 AM

We're happy here in Sweden, lots of good players came home to play

skillfull · 02-15-2005, 05:35 AM

fuck, this winter sucks

Anna_O · 02-15-2005, 05:43 AM

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We're happy here in Sweden, lots of good players came home to play

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Vilken hjälte!

andrej_NDC · 02-15-2005, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WankTank

Its sad.
They're even saying 20% of the players will retire before the NHL comes back, which means most of the superstars.

I think Palffy wont come back anymore, if also the next saison dont start. Also Bondra.

Jensen · 02-15-2005, 06:10 AM

this is really bad

xlogger · 02-15-2005, 06:11 AM

but NHL sucks though, so its not a big loss.

02-15-2005, 06:16 AM

Lucky for me, I'm not a hocky fan.

These types of strikes kill the appeal for a sport. To this day, MLB hasn't fullly recovered.

neverlearn · 02-15-2005, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

I think Palffy wont come back anymore, if also the next saison dont start. Also Bondra.

Palfy, Bondra...both excellent players ( I know I cant spell...) but this is my thing...Markus Naslund is the best all around player and he gets his face on the box for playstation NHL 2005 and theres no season...sad but Markus is a devout Family man Christian and he can take it...as for the NHL...Its done, for good...hello WORLD LEAGUE...

LasseKongos · 02-15-2005, 06:27 AM

Welcome to Sweden for real hockey!!! Our gods are back and kicking!!!

Mutt · 02-15-2005, 06:35 AM

NHL had done damage to itself in won't recover from for a generation - even in Canada. players should be shot for being sheep following Bob Goodenough whose strings are being pulled by the baseball players union head Donald Fehr.

anybody who puts any blame on the owners or Bettman is an idiot. it's been so obvious for years that NHL players are obscenely overpaid considering they have a small % of TV revenues the other big 3 pro sports leagues have.

the game sucked anyway - pretty much unwatchable until playoff time.

spideriux · 02-15-2005, 06:40 AM

Bye Bye I miss you too

neverlearn · 02-15-2005, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

NHL had done damage to itself in won't recover from for a generation - even in Canada. players should be shot for being sheep following Bob Goodenough whose strings are being pulled by the baseball players union head Donald Fehr.

anybody who puts any blame on the owners or Bettman is an idiot. it's been so obvious for years that NHL players are obscenely overpaid considering they have a small % of TV revenues the other big 3 pro sports leagues have.

the game sucked anyway - pretty much unwatchable until playoff time.

Very well put except for the last line

ytcracker · 02-15-2005, 06:42 AM

play for the love of the game christ

mardigras · 02-15-2005, 06:55 AM

If it's any consolation, the NASCAR season kicks off this week

Nicky · 02-15-2005, 06:58 AM

No worries I can still see all the stars in the best hockey league in the world right now!!

My local team has, Fredrik Modin , Henrik Zetterberg, Mikka Kiprussoff and a few more

neverlearn · 02-15-2005, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky

No worries I can still see all the stars in the best hockey league in the world right now!!

My local team has, Fredrik Modin , Henrik Zetterberg, Mikka Kiprussoff and a few more

ya, finland and sweden are dominators right now...this is a dark time for hockey over here

BuggyG · 02-15-2005, 07:25 AM

seriously
very sad year in NHL history
and all we get on tv now is replays of games from 20+ yrs ago
nice.. but it not the same

E.Kant · 02-15-2005, 07:26 AM

did I miss something ?

neverlearn · 02-15-2005, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BuggyG

seriously
very sad year in NHL history
and all we get on tv now is replays of games from 20+ yrs ago
nice.. but it not the same

Definatly not the same, very bad

Ramster · 02-15-2005, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

NHL had done damage to itself in won't recover from for a generation - even in Canada. players should be shot for being sheep following Bob Goodenough whose strings are being pulled by the baseball players union head Donald Fehr.

anybody who puts any blame on the owners or Bettman is an idiot. it's been so obvious for years that NHL players are obscenely overpaid considering they have a small % of TV revenues the other big 3 pro sports leagues have.

Agreed. Clearly the players are idiots. Here's some highlights from yesterday's negotiations:

"According to an NHLPA statement, Daly (the owners) began the process Monday by offering a $40-million salary cap without ''linkage'' - a fixed link between player costs and league revenues, which has long been the centrepiece of the NHL's bid for cost certainty."

"The union counter-offered with the $52-million team-by-team salary cap."

"Now the two sides are separated by $12 million on their cap figures. And with the rollback, two-thirds of the league's teams would be under $40 million."

A $52-million salary cap with many team payrolls under $40 million still allows for players to be signed to stupid overpriced contracts by teams that can afford to. It doesn't solve the LONG TERM problem which is why the Owners rejected it.

andrej_NDC · 02-15-2005, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky

No worries I can still see all the stars in the best hockey league in the world right now!!

My local team has, Fredrik Modin , Henrik Zetterberg, Mikka Kiprussoff and a few more

also Hossa and Gaborik played in your league for a while, thanks god, they came back home now

But I think few are still there, Chara, Pavlikovsky, Nagy, etc...

Evil1 · 02-15-2005, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

If it's any consolation, the NASCAR season kicks off this week

no, it's not.

ronaldo · 02-15-2005, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

NHL had done damage to itself in won't recover from for a generation - even in Canada. players should be shot for being sheep following Bob Goodenough whose strings are being pulled by the baseball players union head Donald Fehr.

anybody who puts any blame on the owners or Bettman is an idiot. it's been so obvious for years that NHL players are obscenely overpaid considering they have a small % of TV revenues the other big 3 pro sports leagues have.

the game sucked anyway - pretty much unwatchable until playoff time.

Great post! INCLUDING the last line.

The talent pool spread out amongst 30 teams means the skill level of the 2nd line players and down is horrible.

Anyone who watches International hockey knows the NHL game is goddamn boring nowadays.

My only fear is that the owners capitulate and the players get what they want. Then again, if that does happen, within 3 years they'll lose at least 6 teams, so the talent level should rise.

Don't EVEN get me started on these fuckers taking a career minor leaguer's job who's playing for the love of the game and to literally put food on his family's table, so they can "Stay in shape."

andrej_NDC · 02-15-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

anybody who puts any blame on the owners or Bettman is an idiot. it's been so obvious for years that NHL players are obscenely overpaid considering they have a small % of TV revenues the other big 3 pro sports leagues have.

huh? Hmm, let me think. Who paid the players? Somehow I think the owners did, they make the agreement, they offer the $$$. If some team cant afford to pay a superstar, why the hell do they pay him? All of them are idiots with none economic knowledge. They want guaranteed profits now, it smells like communism to me.

Spunky · 02-15-2005, 02:02 PM

Talking again today for a final attempt..probably won't change shit

swedguy · 02-15-2005, 02:06 PM

We got a lot of good players in our home series this year at least

Magnus · 02-15-2005, 02:18 PM

Drop the amount of teams, shorten the season a bit, keep the league small, more teams will then have better players. They need to improve the product and package of Hockey there are alot of fans but fewer "die hards" than they think.

Screaming · 02-15-2005, 02:56 PM

sorry for all you hockey fans

Illicit · 02-15-2005, 03:44 PM

Hockey Sucks, Im glad its gone. It wont interfere with baseball coverage

GatorB · 02-15-2005, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

huh? Hmm, let me think. Who paid the players? Somehow I think the owners did, they make the agreement, they offer the $$$. If some team cant afford to pay a superstar, why the hell do they pay him? All of them are idiots with none economic knowledge. They want guaranteed profits now, it smells like communism to me.

Hey moron, the players are at fault. They wasted all this time saying "No cap ever! No cap ever!" now they say Ok will have a cap. Why didn't they do this 8 months ago? They could have argued out the details of that cap for 2 months before the season started.

By the way if the owner had refused to pay those high salries the players would have sued for collusion like the MLB players did in the 80's. The MLB owners had to fork over $300 mil.

ArkansasDave · 02-15-2005, 04:15 PM

Yup, the season is bye bye now. Too bad the players wouldnt agree to a salary cap until its too late.

andrej_NDC · 02-15-2005, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Hey moron, the players are at fault. They wasted all this time saying "No cap ever! No cap ever!" now they say Ok will have a cap. Why didn't they do this 8 months ago? They could have argued out the details of that cap for 2 months before the season started.

By the way if the owner had refused to pay those high salries the players would have sued for collusion like the MLB players did in the 80's. The MLB owners had to fork over $300 mil.

the players are only employees, always blame the owner of the company if it goes down

GatorB · 02-15-2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

the players are only employees, always blame the owner of the company if it goes down

Please tell me you are not that ingorant. If it was that way the owners could have had a cap already and the season would have been played.

V_RocKs · 02-15-2005, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

NHL had done damage to itself in won't recover from for a generation - even in Canada. players should be shot for being sheep following Bob Goodenough whose strings are being pulled by the baseball players union head Donald Fehr.

anybody who puts any blame on the owners or Bettman is an idiot. it's been so obvious for years that NHL players are obscenely overpaid considering they have a small % of TV revenues the other big 3 pro sports leagues have.

the game sucked anyway - pretty much unwatchable until playoff time.

I think you have your facts wrong... see, the owners bought the players at a fair market price. That is like saying you didn't get what you deserved if you bought stock in a company that was about to tank when the tech bubble burst. If you don't know how to buy and sell, get out of being an owner (hint to Jerry Buss).

andrej_NDC · 02-15-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Please tell me you are not that ingorant. If it was that way the owners could have had a cap already and the season would have been played.

I think the league is dead. The owners will create a new league with new players and new rules(like max. wage, etc) from the start on.

Kevsh · 02-15-2005, 04:39 PM

Owners just offered a 42.5M hard cap as a final offer ... My .02 is that they'll get a deal done by noon Wednesday.

Axeman · 02-15-2005, 04:40 PM

We shall see, the NHL just upped their proposal to $42.5 million and called it their final offer and needs a decision by 11am tomm. Interesting to take a hard line like that when its so close to a deal.

Dina_C9 · 02-15-2005, 05:36 PM

that's what you get for being too greedy

Living For Today · 02-15-2005, 05:39 PM

That's a bugger. It was the only american sport I could actually stand watching.

Pete · 02-15-2005, 05:50 PM

Great pic.

V_RocKs · 02-15-2005, 06:52 PM

I ran a Shuttle business for 3 years... It lost money every single year [wink][wink].

Go figure! But I still managed to pay the rent, buy a car and eat out 5 nights a week.

The only ones who aren't making what they should are the people in the front office who make it all happen.

fl_prn_str · 02-15-2005, 08:04 PM

All hail the 2004 STANLEY CUP CHAMPION TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING!!!!!

I knew it would be the end of the line for the NHL when Tampa won!!!!!!

Kevsh · 02-15-2005, 08:39 PM

Update: NHLPA rejects NHL's $42.5M cap and submits proposal for $49M. Gary won't take it but will he come back with another offer tomorrow a.m. or just shut the season down?

Kevsh · 02-15-2005, 08:39 PM

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