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  • mind
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    • Apr 2004
    • 1199

    #1

    Goodbye NHL 2004-2005


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  • swoop
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    • Oct 2003
    • 3903

    #2
    I'll miss you
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    • WankTank
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      • Jan 2004
      • 595

      #3
      Its sad.
      They're even saying 20% of the players will retire before the NHL comes back, which means most of the superstars.

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      • tungsten
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        • Mar 2004
        • 10579

        #4
        nhl fucked up this year
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        • Gottis
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          • May 2004
          • 1746

          #5
          We're happy here in Sweden, lots of good players came home to play
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          • skillfull
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            • Apr 2003
            • 4716

            #6
            fuck, this winter sucks
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            • Anna_O
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              • Oct 2002
              • 5773

              #7
              Originally posted by Jon Adolfsson
              We're happy here in Sweden, lots of good players came home to play


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              • andrej_NDC
                Registered User
                • May 2004
                • 7760

                #8
                Originally posted by WankTank
                Its sad.
                They're even saying 20% of the players will retire before the NHL comes back, which means most of the superstars.
                I think Palffy wont come back anymore, if also the next saison dont start. Also Bondra.

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                • Jensen
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 3790

                  #9
                  this is really bad

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                  • xlogger
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 9507

                    #10
                    but NHL sucks though, so its not a big loss.

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                    • shermo

                      #11
                      Lucky for me, I'm not a hocky fan.

                      These types of strikes kill the appeal for a sport. To this day, MLB hasn't fullly recovered.

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                      • neverlearn
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 2085

                        #12
                        Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                        I think Palffy wont come back anymore, if also the next saison dont start. Also Bondra.
                        Palfy, Bondra...both excellent players ( I know I cant spell...) but this is my thing...Markus Naslund is the best all around player and he gets his face on the box for playstation NHL 2005 and theres no season...sad but Markus is a devout Family man Christian and he can take it...as for the NHL...Its done, for good...hello WORLD LEAGUE...
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                        • LasseKongos
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                          • Aug 2003
                          • 4668

                          #13
                          Welcome to Sweden for real hockey!!! Our gods are back and kicking!!!

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                          • Mutt
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 34431

                            #14
                            NHL had done damage to itself in won't recover from for a generation - even in Canada. players should be shot for being sheep following Bob Goodenough whose strings are being pulled by the baseball players union head Donald Fehr.

                            anybody who puts any blame on the owners or Bettman is an idiot. it's been so obvious for years that NHL players are obscenely overpaid considering they have a small % of TV revenues the other big 3 pro sports leagues have.

                            the game sucked anyway - pretty much unwatchable until playoff time.
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                            • spideriux
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 17227

                              #15
                              Bye Bye I miss you too
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                              • neverlearn
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 2085

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Mutt
                                NHL had done damage to itself in won't recover from for a generation - even in Canada. players should be shot for being sheep following Bob Goodenough whose strings are being pulled by the baseball players union head Donald Fehr.

                                anybody who puts any blame on the owners or Bettman is an idiot. it's been so obvious for years that NHL players are obscenely overpaid considering they have a small % of TV revenues the other big 3 pro sports leagues have.

                                the game sucked anyway - pretty much unwatchable until playoff time.
                                Very well put except for the last line
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                                • ytcracker
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                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 12403

                                  #17
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                                  • mardigras
                                    Bon temps!
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 14194

                                    #18
                                    If it's any consolation, the NASCAR season kicks off this week
                                    .

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                                    • Nicky
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 30071

                                      #19
                                      No worries I can still see all the stars in the best hockey league in the world right now!!

                                      My local team has, Fredrik Modin , Henrik Zetterberg, Mikka Kiprussoff and a few more

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                                      • neverlearn
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2004
                                        • 2085

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Nicky
                                        No worries I can still see all the stars in the best hockey league in the world right now!!

                                        My local team has, Fredrik Modin , Henrik Zetterberg, Mikka Kiprussoff and a few more
                                        ya, finland and sweden are dominators right now...this is a dark time for hockey over here
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                                        • BuggyG
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 4179

                                          #21
                                          seriously
                                          very sad year in NHL history
                                          and all we get on tv now is replays of games from 20+ yrs ago
                                          nice.. but it not the same

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                                          • E.Kant
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                                            • Apr 2004
                                            • 1577

                                            #22
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                                            • neverlearn
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                                              • Feb 2004
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BuggyG
                                              seriously
                                              very sad year in NHL history
                                              and all we get on tv now is replays of games from 20+ yrs ago
                                              nice.. but it not the same
                                              Definatly not the same, very bad
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                                              • Ramster
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                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 1447

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Mutt
                                                NHL had done damage to itself in won't recover from for a generation - even in Canada. players should be shot for being sheep following Bob Goodenough whose strings are being pulled by the baseball players union head Donald Fehr.

                                                anybody who puts any blame on the owners or Bettman is an idiot. it's been so obvious for years that NHL players are obscenely overpaid considering they have a small % of TV revenues the other big 3 pro sports leagues have.
                                                Agreed. Clearly the players are idiots. Here's some highlights from yesterday's negotiations:

                                                "According to an NHLPA statement, Daly (the owners) began the process Monday by offering a $40-million salary cap without ''linkage'' - a fixed link between player costs and league revenues, which has long been the centrepiece of the NHL's bid for cost certainty."

                                                "The union counter-offered with the $52-million team-by-team salary cap."

                                                "Now the two sides are separated by $12 million on their cap figures. And with the rollback, two-thirds of the league's teams would be under $40 million."

                                                A $52-million salary cap with many team payrolls under $40 million still allows for players to be signed to stupid overpriced contracts by teams that can afford to. It doesn't solve the LONG TERM problem which is why the Owners rejected it.
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                                                • andrej_NDC
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                                                  • May 2004
                                                  • 7760

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Nicky
                                                  No worries I can still see all the stars in the best hockey league in the world right now!!

                                                  My local team has, Fredrik Modin , Henrik Zetterberg, Mikka Kiprussoff and a few more
                                                  also Hossa and Gaborik played in your league for a while, thanks god, they came back home now But I think few are still there, Chara, Pavlikovsky, Nagy, etc...

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                                                  • Evil1
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                    • 3893

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by mardigras
                                                    If it's any consolation, the NASCAR season kicks off this week
                                                    no, it's not.

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                                                    • ronaldo
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 5475

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                                      NHL had done damage to itself in won't recover from for a generation - even in Canada. players should be shot for being sheep following Bob Goodenough whose strings are being pulled by the baseball players union head Donald Fehr.

                                                      anybody who puts any blame on the owners or Bettman is an idiot. it's been so obvious for years that NHL players are obscenely overpaid considering they have a small % of TV revenues the other big 3 pro sports leagues have.

                                                      the game sucked anyway - pretty much unwatchable until playoff time.
                                                      Great post! INCLUDING the last line.

                                                      The talent pool spread out amongst 30 teams means the skill level of the 2nd line players and down is horrible.

                                                      Anyone who watches International hockey knows the NHL game is goddamn boring nowadays.

                                                      My only fear is that the owners capitulate and the players get what they want. Then again, if that does happen, within 3 years they'll lose at least 6 teams, so the talent level should rise.

                                                      Don't EVEN get me started on these fuckers taking a career minor leaguer's job who's playing for the love of the game and to literally put food on his family's table, so they can "Stay in shape."

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                                                      • andrej_NDC
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • May 2004
                                                        • 7760

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Mutt
                                                        anybody who puts any blame on the owners or Bettman is an idiot. it's been so obvious for years that NHL players are obscenely overpaid considering they have a small % of TV revenues the other big 3 pro sports leagues have.
                                                        huh? Hmm, let me think. Who paid the players? Somehow I think the owners did, they make the agreement, they offer the $$$. If some team cant afford to pay a superstar, why the hell do they pay him? All of them are idiots with none economic knowledge. They want guaranteed profits now, it smells like communism to me.

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                                                        • Spunky
                                                          I need a beer
                                                          • Jun 2002
                                                          • 133987

                                                          #29
                                                          Talking again today for a final attempt..probably won't change shit

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                                                          • swedguy
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                            • 7981

                                                            #30
                                                            We got a lot of good players in our home series this year at least

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                                                            • Magnus
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 1211

                                                              #31
                                                              Drop the amount of teams, shorten the season a bit, keep the league small, more teams will then have better players. They need to improve the product and package of Hockey there are alot of fans but fewer "die hards" than they think.
                                                              Magnus

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                                                              • Screaming
                                                                I can change this!!!!!
                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                • 18972

                                                                #32
                                                                sorry for all you hockey fans

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                                                                • Illicit
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                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                  • 11895

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Hockey Sucks, Im glad its gone. It wont interfere with baseball coverage
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                                                                  • GatorB
                                                                    The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                    • 18208

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                    huh? Hmm, let me think. Who paid the players? Somehow I think the owners did, they make the agreement, they offer the $$$. If some team cant afford to pay a superstar, why the hell do they pay him? All of them are idiots with none economic knowledge. They want guaranteed profits now, it smells like communism to me.
                                                                    Hey moron, the players are at fault. They wasted all this time saying "No cap ever! No cap ever!" now they say Ok will have a cap. Why didn't they do this 8 months ago? They could have argued out the details of that cap for 2 months before the season started.

                                                                    By the way if the owner had refused to pay those high salries the players would have sued for collusion like the MLB players did in the 80's. The MLB owners had to fork over $300 mil.

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                                                                    • ArkansasDave
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                      • 2148

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Yup, the season is bye bye now. Too bad the players wouldnt agree to a salary cap until its too late.
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                                                                      • andrej_NDC
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • May 2004
                                                                        • 7760

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                        Hey moron, the players are at fault. They wasted all this time saying "No cap ever! No cap ever!" now they say Ok will have a cap. Why didn't they do this 8 months ago? They could have argued out the details of that cap for 2 months before the season started.

                                                                        By the way if the owner had refused to pay those high salries the players would have sued for collusion like the MLB players did in the 80's. The MLB owners had to fork over $300 mil.
                                                                        the players are only employees, always blame the owner of the company if it goes down

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                                                                        • GatorB
                                                                          The Demon & 12clicks
                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 18208

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                                                                          the players are only employees, always blame the owner of the company if it goes down
                                                                          Please tell me you are not that ingorant. If it was that way the owners could have had a cap already and the season would have been played.

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                                                                          • V_RocKs
                                                                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                            • 32449

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                            NHL had done damage to itself in won't recover from for a generation - even in Canada. players should be shot for being sheep following Bob Goodenough whose strings are being pulled by the baseball players union head Donald Fehr.

                                                                            anybody who puts any blame on the owners or Bettman is an idiot. it's been so obvious for years that NHL players are obscenely overpaid considering they have a small % of TV revenues the other big 3 pro sports leagues have.

                                                                            the game sucked anyway - pretty much unwatchable until playoff time.

                                                                            I think you have your facts wrong... see, the owners bought the players at a fair market price. That is like saying you didn't get what you deserved if you bought stock in a company that was about to tank when the tech bubble burst. If you don't know how to buy and sell, get out of being an owner (hint to Jerry Buss).

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                                                                            • andrej_NDC
                                                                              Registered User
                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                              • 7760

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by GatorB
                                                                              Please tell me you are not that ingorant. If it was that way the owners could have had a cap already and the season would have been played.
                                                                              I think the league is dead. The owners will create a new league with new players and new rules(like max. wage, etc) from the start on.

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                                                                              • Kevsh
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                                • 8619

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Owners just offered a 42.5M hard cap as a final offer ... My .02 is that they'll get a deal done by noon Wednesday.

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                                                                                • Axeman
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                  • 5201

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  We shall see, the NHL just upped their proposal to $42.5 million and called it their final offer and needs a decision by 11am tomm. Interesting to take a hard line like that when its so close to a deal.
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                                                                                  • Dina_C9
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                                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                                    • 930

                                                                                    #42
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                                                                                    • Living For Today
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                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                      • 3970

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      That's a bugger. It was the only american sport I could actually stand watching.

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                                                                                      • Pete
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                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                        • 6617

                                                                                        #44
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                                                                                        • V_RocKs
                                                                                          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                          • 32449

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I ran a Shuttle business for 3 years... It lost money every single year [wink][wink].

                                                                                          Go figure! But I still managed to pay the rent, buy a car and eat out 5 nights a week.

                                                                                          The only ones who aren't making what they should are the people in the front office who make it all happen.

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                                                                                          • fl_prn_str
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                                                                                            • Aug 2004
                                                                                            • 5736

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            All hail the 2004 STANLEY CUP CHAMPION TAMPA BAY LIGHTNING!!!!!


                                                                                            I knew it would be the end of the line for the NHL when Tampa won!!!!!!

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                                                                                            • Kevsh
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                              • 8619

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Update: NHLPA rejects NHL's $42.5M cap and submits proposal for $49M. Gary won't take it but will he come back with another offer tomorrow a.m. or just shut the season down?

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                                                                                              • Kevsh
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                                                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                                                • 8619

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by mind
                                                                                                Nice cleavage, btw

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