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Old 01-29-2005, 12:34 PM   #1
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We need a list of known SCAMMERS and such....

Well for the benfit of the community....
Noobs come on everyday and the scammers prey on em....

We should all compile a list with PROOF and such.....

What do you think?

Ill host it.
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Old 01-29-2005, 12:37 PM   #2
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Sounds good to me people sometimes forget too soon about people who fuck other over I refuse to do business with scammers there are too many decent people to work with. I want to do good business with good people.
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Dingo @ MerchSolutions ;)
well i knew about him way before merch solutions and such

Plenty of valid proof on him from alot of sources.
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Sounds good to me people sometimes forget too soon about people who fuck other over I refuse to do business with scammers there are too many decent people to work with. I want to do good business with good people.
yup , todays drama is old news within a day or so.

People forget too easliy
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well i knew about him way before merch solutions and such

Plenty of valid proof on him from alot of sources.

same for me
but people still been scammed by shit like that
so telling everyone is not a bad thing
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Old 01-29-2005, 12:47 PM   #14
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No worries. I have a plan.
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Toby from Raleigh, NC . Also owns runs a studio for video secrets.

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cool that might be a alias. I remeber some drama about him or he previous alias
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Old 01-29-2005, 12:51 PM   #18
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LOL Juicy is on the case folks

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true , but i have a plan in place.

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the only "plan" in place, should be legal advice on what to do if you plan on doing this.
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Just start a page with "people who have been accused of being scammers many times by different individuals" and you are risk-free.
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For obvious reasons I cant state what I have planned but no worries.

Just post scammers. Ill worry about the other stuff.
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see sig.

more than enough proof against that clown.

awesome idea though juicy.

you got enough people (friends) to prolly pull it off
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more than enough proof against that clown.

awesome idea though juicy.

you got enough people (friends) to prolly pull it off
i am gonna bookmark this thread. just keep on adding people.


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Well for the benfit of the community....
Noobs come on everyday and the scammers prey on em....

We should all compile a list with PROOF and such.....

What do you think?

Ill host it.
I think it will be very difficult to verify the claims.

A check list of required (verifiable) proof might help and posting ONLY verified facts (without necessarily drawing conclusions - let the reader decide for themselves) might be of some value.

Although, if I need to know something about someone, I just ask those I know in this business directly (whose judgement I trust - or at least understand their biases) and they can pass on what they know without having to access a "whiner's blog".

-Dino

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scammers change board nicknames, website and mod of operation overnight, you will go broke trying to keep up with them.

why not just publish a list of known honest webmasters and biz people who we know we can trust and who has stood up for them?
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Obviously dont post shit about people if you dont have some sort of legit proof

Need some sort of substantial proof.
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why not just publish a list of known honest webmasters and biz people who we know we can trust and who has stood up for them?
Kinda like a "vouching" system , hmm good idea also
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I think it will be very difficult to verify the claims.

A check list of required (verifiable) proof might help and posting ONLY verified facts (without necessarily drawing conclusions - let the reader decide for themselves) might be of some value.

Although, if I need to know something about someone, I just ask those I know in this business directly (whose judgement I trust - or at least understand their biases) and they can pass on what they know without having to access a "whiner's blog".

-Dino
True i do the same.
But the new people to the bizzz dont really contacts as you and I so it might be a valuable resource for em.
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2 of the biggest scammers to avoid..

Nick Nolter ( You gaming guys know who I'm talking about )

Shawn Dolven MANY companies both in the States AND Europe know of / have been scammed by this prick..
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If you do something like that and make the list public, you better make sure you have non-refutable, rock hard evidence it is true for your own protection or you may get some people that file a lawsuit.
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i think it is a good idea. there are plenty of people here who have been ripped off.
although i would make it a valid scamming list. not one where a person was late with a design or there was confusion about payment, blah blah blah.

too many people here are too quick to scream scammer when the word should not be used.

all in all though, good idea.
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Its like the better business bureau if they tried to keep up with all the scammers they wouldnt be in business. instead they just get all honest people to sign up with them. much easier and better. afterall if you go to sign up with a sponsor or a traffic provider or a web host, and they're NOT listed with you... thats enough to raise some eyebrows (assuming a vast majority of service providers ARE listed with you). You could also make it decently profitable(paying yourself a salary - non profit of course :p) charging for listings just like acsap or whatever does.
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Now, is this a serious thread or???
I dont feel comfortable posting it in public, even if I have 110% bulletproof evidences on my hand.

But I like the idea of creating a fair and neutral website, in which the hole community, affiliates and paysites are supporting. Not only names, but also type of scam/shaving and certainly proofs.
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