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Old 02-07-2005, 09:45 PM   #1
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greece - is it safe for white boys?

according to my brother, it's not very safe due to Albanian mobsters. Soul Rebel, can you comment? if not, you know i'll be emailing you!
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Old 02-07-2005, 09:46 PM   #2
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Old 02-07-2005, 09:47 PM   #3
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btw, i'm serious. i want to go to greece in the fall, and simply figured it was as safe as anywhere.
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Old 02-07-2005, 09:51 PM   #4
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you should just buy an 'around the world' ticket which allows you to fly around the world, up to 15 stops, and a certain milage range, cant stop in same place twice and can only go in one direction... i did it twice last year, UN-belieavable is all i can say.... business-class is like 6-8k$
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Old 02-07-2005, 09:53 PM   #5
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It's safe enough, but not the place anymore where you could solve an issue with your fists. Albanian mobsters exist and it's mostly a threat to those dealing with nighlife (clubs,bars etc). If you move smart you stay out of troubles otherwise...
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Old 02-07-2005, 09:54 PM   #6
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Old 02-07-2005, 10:01 PM   #7
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It's safe enough, but not the place anymore where you could solve an issue with your fists. Albanian mobsters exist and it's mostly a threat to those dealing with nighlife (clubs,bars etc). If you move smart you stay out of troubles otherwise...
i am not looking for *any* trouble. i just want to travel and see everything. do you have any recommendations on what travel path i should take (start and end), or anything?

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i'll send you an email with info, just tell me how many days you plan to stay
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take a look at escapeartist.com I know that you will just be visiting, but they ahve some great info about other countries.
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Old 02-07-2005, 10:11 PM   #10
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i'll send you an email with info, just tell me how many days you plan to stay
hmm, that really depends. i just want to get a good feel for the country, the food, the culture. at the same time i want to avoid (at all costs) the ugly side of things. i could stay 2 weeks, or i could stay 6 weeks. basically i just want to be safe, and enjoy the place. i also plan on doing lots of walking from place to place (this is my plan in general for the next couple of years). if that's not a good idea for Greece, please let me know.

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You will not find any trouble unless you go way off the beaten path. Most of Greece is packed with harmless tourists and the Greeks themselves are fine.

I spent a few months in Piraeus and had a blast. No trouble at all.

It is true about the Albanians being dogs...Shortly after I was there I heard about a bunch of them getting into the hostels and making cooking fires in their rooms. A lot of refugees flooded in for a while.

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according to my brother, it's not very safe due to Albanian mobsters. Soul Rebel, can you comment? if not, you know i'll be emailing you!

Hi quiet.. Greece is no problem and no less safe than ... well, safer than New York or London :-)

I know a few people who live there.. in hotel management and webmasters... they don't have any problems.

I think you will enjoy seeing the place - check out some of the islands!
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just call you favorite airline and ask for 'around the world' specials... i paid 5k for business class on star alliance (im in the middle of the trip actually)... i paid less because i left from bangkok, i think if i was leaving from the USA they say it would have cost me 7k if i originated in USA... i've flown thus far United, I will be flying Varig, Lufthansa, and then then Singapore air... call up your airline and find out the details.
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Old 02-07-2005, 11:51 PM   #16
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It was safe when I was there. Had a good time.

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there are albanians but they arent monsters) LOL
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You must be joking?
It is not possible to drive by car ( to dangerous ) through Albania to Italy, the Greeks have to take a ferry to avoid Albanian gagsters.

Greece is as safe as any other western country.
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About 3yrs ago I took my daughter and some friends to Rhodes (rhodos) Greece. I wanted to see where my Mom's dad was from / born. Great Island, lots of resorts - nice and hot, fun on the Med. Only like a few miles by boat to Turkey, so lots of tourist things to do.
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after talking to my brother again (who's lived in Europe for years before heading back to Canada), it sounds like i need to be very careful around certain areas of Italy, and Greece. France sounds much safer lol.

i would have thought all was well down there, apparently not.
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It is not possible to drive by car ( to dangerous ) through Albania to Italy, the Greeks have to take a ferry to avoid Albanian gagsters.
interesting. why is it like this?
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As in all places you visit there is good and bad. I spent 10 days in Greece and never had a problem. Of course I noticed that the taxi drivers all seemed lazy Seems like alot of them and shops close down alot during mid afternoon for an extended lunch. But everyone was very nice and very gracious. Rhodes gets more Europeans visiting then americans, so I think they enjoyed seeing us and chatting.

We went to the old jewish part of the city to check it out, there was a 1200 yr. old temple there, oldest in Greece, and saw the street that was named after our family, Alhadeff, kinda cool.. Food was good, clubs rocked. Prices - just like the usa, no 3rd world pricing there
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when are you leaving Colin? we should hook up for an evening. i planning on leaving for Europe at the end of August...
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After seeing your "travelling plans", I have to say that what you must avoid at all cost is the subway in Paris....I mean it
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After seeing your "travelling plans", I have to say that what you must avoid at all cost is the subway in Paris....I mean it
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after talking to my brother again (who's lived in Europe for years before heading back to Canada), it sounds like i need to be very careful around certain areas of Italy, and Greece. France sounds much safer lol.

i would have thought all was well down there, apparently not.
It's safe. I've been there over 18 times and not once have I gotten into trouble. Very friendly people and very safe country.
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After seeing your "travelling plans", I have to say that what you must avoid at all cost is the subway in Paris....I mean it
Why? Paris subway is a great way of transport.
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Why? Paris subway is a great way of transport.
Your joking rigth? ......
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according to my brother, it's not very safe due to Albanian mobsters. Soul Rebel, can you comment? if not, you know i'll be emailing you!

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No. The subway get you pretty much anywhere.
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sure it's safe...why are americans so afraid to pass their borders?
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No. The subway get you pretty much anywhere.
Duhh that is not the point, the problem is that its one of the most dangerous places....and I mean REALLY dangerous...
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Duhh that is not the point, the problem is that its one of the most dangerous places....and I mean REALLY dangerous...
No it's not. Only if you consider pickpockets REALLY dangerous.
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I used the subway to go everywhere when I was in Paris. Never saw or had a problem. I don't know what you consider dangerous about it. Try the subway in New York if you want to see a dangerous subway.
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