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Old 02-04-2005, 03:30 AM   #1
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Who got fucked by Google ??

Just checked my G rankings and holy shit there was a big update yesterday. As usual every update makes it harder to skate by with keywords in anchors etc.

Looks to be the biggest update in 6 - 9 months so if you haven't checked your rankings you might be in for a surprise (and I'm guessing bad)

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Old 02-04-2005, 03:34 AM   #2
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Old 02-04-2005, 03:35 AM   #3
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my placements seem fine, very little change at all. sorry guys
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Old 02-04-2005, 03:36 AM   #4
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Old 02-04-2005, 03:37 AM   #5
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I lost a good yahoo listing yesterday too
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Old 02-04-2005, 03:38 AM   #6
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Old 02-04-2005, 03:49 AM   #7
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Old 02-04-2005, 06:18 AM   #8
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I still have my nr4 spot in yahoo so I am ok.
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Old 02-04-2005, 06:26 AM   #9
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Old 02-04-2005, 07:21 AM   #10
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I have gotten best ranking ever! Yahoo 4th place on these keywords
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Old 02-04-2005, 07:21 AM   #11
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And google also :D
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Old 02-04-2005, 07:26 AM   #12
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This is nothing, wait until you see what the big 3 (yahoo, MSN, google) begin implementing in their algo criteria within the next 2 months ;)




and no, it hasn't hit the news yet so you won't find out about it there lol
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Old 02-04-2005, 07:33 AM   #13
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Im waiting for that....im ready to hit the best rankings ever...prepared for the "algo criteria"....This gonna be huge :D
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Old 02-04-2005, 07:40 AM   #14
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Almost all of my sites stayed the same except for two that fell off a cliff. Those are the only two that I havn't updated as regularly.
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Old 02-04-2005, 09:12 AM   #15
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Last December, there was a major change in rankings on G.

'Duplicate Content Penalties' are believed to be the major reason for so many sites dropping down (or out completely).

I noticed a bump up in our traffic since yesterday and it's still climbing.

If you want to recoup your SE losses over the past month or so and build more legitimate SE traffic, contact me - I offer the tools to do it.

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Old 02-04-2005, 09:16 AM   #16
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This is nothing, wait until you see what the big 3 (yahoo, MSN, google) begin implementing in their algo criteria within the next 2 months ;)




and no, it hasn't hit the news yet so you won't find out about it there lol
'implenting algo criteria' ....? what does that mean?
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Old 02-04-2005, 11:22 AM   #17
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it means they will be looking for something specific within the coding of a website

some currently have it, some have it but incorrectly, and others don't have it at all

thats all I can divulge or I'd have to kill ya lol
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Old 02-04-2005, 11:24 AM   #18
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Old 02-04-2005, 11:30 AM   #19
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'implenting algo criteria' ....? what does that mean?
It means he wants to sound like he knows what hes talking about or that he has some secret info. IN realityy he just sounds stupid by implying that somehow all these engines are going to make some major changes in the future when in fact MSN has already rolled out its previously beta algo. (Wich is pretty good so far except the spammers are starting to creep in)
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I think this phenomenom may well be linked to this piece of news which broke yesterday:

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Botnets strangle Google Adwords campaigns
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Published Thursday 3rd February 2005 17:14 GMT

Security researchers have discovered a way to shut down or seriously impair a Google Adwords advertising campaign by artificially inflating the number of times an ad is displayed. By running searches against particular keywords from compromised hosts, attackers can cause click-through percentage rates to fall through the floor.

This, in turn, causes Google Adwords to automatically disable the affected campaign keywords and prevent ads from being displayed. By disabling campaign keywords using the technique, cybercrimals could give their preferred parties higher ad positions at reduced costs, according to click fraud prevention specialists Clickrisk.


"By disabling targeted keywords across many advertisers' campaigns simultaneously by artificially inflating the number of times an ad is displayed an attacker can secure a higher ad position," explains Clickrisk.com chief exec Adam Sculthorpe. The attack - dubbed keyword hijacking - is difficult to prevent because it takes advantage of a design feature of Google Adwords rather than a flaw, he added. Clickrisk came across the attack in investigating why the click through rates of one of its clients - which had been running at a steady rate - dropped to zero for no apparent reason. Subsequent monitoring and forensic testing revealed that a botnet made up of open proxies in China was responsible for the attack.

High?cost-per-click (CPC) advertisers in niche markets are particular vulnerable to the keyword hijacking attack. "Once keywords are disabled they can't be re-enabled and attacks can go undetected for some time," Sculthorpe told El Reg. When keywords are disabled an advertiser must erase all campaigns featuring the affected keywords and create a new campaign as a workaround.

Although the true scope of the problem remains unclear, Clickrisk security analysts believe the keyword hijacking attack may be widely exploited. Clickrisk advises users to monitor click-through rates and traffic levels, log into Google Adwords campaign frequently and check that keywords are not disabled.

The incidence of click fraud risk exposure in general is on the rise. According to Clickrisk?s chief risk officer, Jack Bensimon, "our clients have experienced substantial losses ranging from 20 ? 65 per cent of their total click costs." Bensimon believes that "managing business risk is a critical component of online advertising" and further recommends that "online marketers should be vigilant and regularly monitor keywords".
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It means he wants to sound like he knows what hes talking about or that he has some secret info. IN realityy he just sounds stupid by implying that somehow all these engines are going to make some major changes in the future when in fact MSN has already rolled out its previously beta algo. (Wich is pretty good so far except the spammers are starting to creep in)

you are absolutely right... I know nothing, ... really!

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you are absolutely right... I know nothing, ... really!

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If you do know anything... you sure as hell don't sound like it. Using wrong terminology and talking as if yahoo, MSN, google are going ot make some move in unison.

In 2 month everyone will know exactly how much you know.
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Holy shit! I just took over all of your guys listings! Thanks google!
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This is nothing, wait until you see what the big 3 (yahoo, MSN, google) begin implementing in their algo criteria within the next 2 months ;)




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Old 02-04-2005, 10:39 PM   #26
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I got fucked in december and fucked again LOL

Google is a little bitch lately
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nothing but good for me... my PR has gone down on the last 2 major updates but my rank in the serps have stayed the same.. Looks like google picked up a few more of my domains.. one of them I've been waiting a year to get listed.

I guess the year long ban is correct on dropped names. Because I registered that domain a year ago on the 2nd. It's been blacklisted since then but today it's listed
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Well our rankings went up. So I am not complaining.
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dam your davo? Your shits all over congrats
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what did you use to find out the link popularity ^_^
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I guess the year long ban is correct on dropped names. Because I registered that domain a year ago on the 2nd. It's been blacklisted since then but today it's listed

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www.seochat.com

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well it still has no PR but at least it now shows up in the listings.. so I assume it will show some PR sometime soon.. not that PR really seems to matter these days, but it's just hard to get link trades with no PR at all.
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PR has very little relevence to SERP's now. It's very straightforward to increase PR but tough as fuck to shitty rankings higher....
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