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FredIsMe · 01-24-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chupacabra

lol, not here on GFY friend.. i'm not massive or anything regardless, i just like to stay as shredded as i can, IGF seems the magic bullet these days..

I'm all about being massive. 250lbs at 7% bf is my goal weight.

chupacabra · 01-24-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FredIsMe

I'm all about being massive. 250lbs at 7% bf is be my goal weight.

good deal man, do you use Lr3-IGF/1 as well? i cant say enough good things about that stuff, i love it..

Spudstr · 01-24-2005, 07:11 PM

shizzel, my var cycle was 350, HGH is expensive cycles. I should of thrown hcg into the mix.. b/c lately i've been feeling drained.. came home from lifting yesterday and passed out for 5 hours :-/ only 9pm and i'm drowsy already and i didn't even lift! thats tomarrow

FredIsMe · 01-24-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chupacabra

good deal man, do you use Lr3-IGF/1 as well? i cant say enough good things about that stuff, i love it..

dont think I'll go that far. I hope to get to 230lbs with the 12 week cycle of test. and then see how much I can gain till next summer and maybe do another with dbol and test. I'm in University so it's a bitch trying to find time to eat a lot of calories in/between class, as well as working out without thinking about the shitty marks.

FredIsMe · 01-24-2005, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr

shizzel, my var cycle was 350, HGH is expensive cycles. I should of thrown hcg into the mix.. b/c lately i've been feeling drained.. came home from lifting yesterday and passed out for 5 hours :-/ only 9pm and i'm drowsy already and i didn't even lift! thats tomarrow

Maybe try some Tribestan/Tribulus & caffeine so get that energy up.

pxxx · 01-24-2005, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FredIsMe

rich bastard....

I wish i can wipe my ass with 100 of your money.

Spudstr · 01-24-2005, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FredIsMe

Maybe try some Tribestan/Tribulus & caffeine so get that energy up.

usally when i take CEE i'll be fine, stupid me ran out of grape juice couple days so i havn't took any. 4g of cee 2 hours before working out.. great energy boost.

Rob · 01-24-2005, 07:18 PM

Right now I am 5' 10" and weigh 105lbs. I don't know how much I can bench press...probably around 210? What should I start out at?

tical · 01-24-2005, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr

shizzel, my var cycle was 350, HGH is expensive cycles. I should of thrown hcg into the mix.. b/c lately i've been feeling drained.. came home from lifting yesterday and passed out for 5 hours :-/ only 9pm and i'm drowsy already and i didn't even lift! thats tomarrow

hcg on var? why?

tical · 01-24-2005, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HighOnAcid

Right now I am 5' 10" and weigh 105lbs. I don't know how much I can bench press...probably around 210? What should I start out at?

105 and a 210lb bench? you'll break your wrists.

Spudstr · 01-24-2005, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tical

hcg on var? why?

hcg with PCT, helps speed up the return for natural test, called getting shut down

tical · 01-24-2005, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr

hcg with PCT, helps speed up the return for natural test, called getting shut down

Yes I know what it is, I thought you were taking it during your var cycle.

What did your PCT consist of?

Spudstr · 01-24-2005, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tical

Yes I know what it is, I thought you were taking it during your var cycle.

What did your PCT consist of?

just novla

chupacabra · 01-24-2005, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr

just novla

nolvadex isn't enough for me by far, i hit 500IU's of HCG weekly throughout my cycles, and then PCT w/ both nolvadex and proviron for at least three weeks after last shot.

i try to avoid clomid if at all possible, the stuff makes me wanna fucking cry like a little girl..!

tical · 01-24-2005, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr

just novla

That sucks man, hopefully you had some baseline endocrine bloodwork done.

Always good to do blood work a few weeks following PCT to be sure your levels return to your baseline.

Spudstr · 01-24-2005, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chupacabra

nolvadex isn't enough for me by far, i hit 500IU's of HCG weekly throughout my cycles, and then PCT w/ both nolvadex and proviron for at least three weeks after last shot.

i try to avoid clomid if at all possible, the stuff makes me wanna fucking cry like a little girl..!

i learned the hard way

Rob · 01-24-2005, 07:33 PM

I'm puny and need help now!

venus · 01-24-2005, 07:33 PM

I think you have the wrong impression about steroids.

There are different drugs to accomplish different things, but to get shredded and big, you have to first eat like a horse, lots of protein, and work out heavy, then you have to go on a strict diet with lots of cardio and change your lifting from heavy to light with lots of reps. Process takes a long time, its not something your going to do in a couple of months.

this is what I looked like at a natural show I did
http://www.landofvenus.com/bb/vb2.jpg
http://www.landofvenus.com/bb/vb3.jpg

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Originally Posted by chupacabra

i just like to stay as shredded as i can, IGF seems the magic bullet these days..

Bigwilly · 01-24-2005, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tical

105 and a 210lb bench? you'll break your wrists.

my buddy weighs 180 and can bench 265

if your serious about getting in shape www.bodybuilding.com go to the forums there or hit me up on icq

tical · 01-24-2005, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chupacabra

nolvadex isn't enough for me by far, i hit 500IU's of HCG weekly throughout my cycles, and then PCT w/ both nolvadex and proviron for at least three weeks after last shot.

i try to avoid clomid if at all possible, the stuff makes me wanna fucking cry like a little girl..!

Some speculate that the use of HCG while on could desensitize your reponse to LH. Not sure if it's true though, I haven't seen any medical reports on it.

HCG and Nolvadex post cycle is plenty.

No matter what, when you're on cycle of anything you're going to be supressed whether you are using HCG or not. It is good for keeping your testies at a relatively normal size while on something heavier though.

tical · 01-24-2005, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by venus

I think you have the wrong impression about steroids.

There are different drugs to accomplish different things, but to get shredded and big, you have to first eat like a horse, lots of protein, and work out heavy, then you have to go on a strict diet with lots of cardio and change your lifting from heavy to light with lots of reps. Process takes a long time, its not something your going to do in a couple of months.

this is what I looked like at a natural show I did
http://www.landofvenus.com/bb/vb2.jpg
http://www.landofvenus.com/bb/vb3.jpg

Have you used in preparation for a show or to break plateus?

Spudstr · 01-24-2005, 07:37 PM

i've seen people cut down pretty fast some using tren, some using primo

tical · 01-24-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigwilly

my buddy weighs 180 and can bench 265

if your serious about getting in shape www.bodybuilding.com go to the forums there or hit me up on icq

I'm not saying it can't be done, but 5'10 at 105 is pretty small. Attempting a 210 bench (w/o any previous training) would probably result in an injury or a real loud fart.

Spudstr · 01-24-2005, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tical

I'm not saying it can't be done, but 5'10 at 105 is pretty small. Attempting a 210 bench (w/o any previous training) would probably result in an injury or a real loud fart.

not trying to be mean, but i don't see how someone thats 5'10 and weight 105lbs could even posssibly get up 200, let alone 150

thats asking for a serious injoury

tical · 01-24-2005, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr

i've seen people cut down pretty fast some using tren, some using primo

They will help but won't work wonders. Diet is the key.

People that have cut on anabolics like primo, var probably weren't eating like pigs, they most likely were low carbing it or on some sort of diet. The function of these is best when cutting because they help utilize the protein intake and preserve muscle that would be lost while cutting, sometimes even putting on a few pounds while losing bodyfat as well. Unless a diet is there they won't significanly reduce bodyfat.

tical · 01-24-2005, 07:45 PM

I like this thread

Spudstr · 01-24-2005, 07:45 PM

right there is no magic pill, but its amazing how much it helps with someone doing a normal diet/cardio work out.

Spudstr · 01-24-2005, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tical

I like this thread

this is one of the more informative ones on gfy

venus · 01-24-2005, 07:49 PM

I have tried some things, but it was because I thought I wanted to be bigger, I decided I like being a girl more then being big.
I have been lifting since I was 15, here is a newpaper article calling me a teen superstar

http://www.landofvenus.com/Dialog.jpg

I am the one outlined in yellow and under my real name "Hope"
That lift qualified me for the nationals.

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Originally Posted by tical

Have you used in preparation for a show or to break plateus?

Spudstr · 01-24-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by venus

I have tried some things, but it was because I thought I wanted to be bigger, I decided I like being a girl more then being big.
I have been lifting since I was 15, here is a newpaper article calling me a teen superstar

http://www.landofvenus.com/Dialog.jpg

I am the one outlined in yellow and under my real name "Hope"
That lift qualified me for the nationals.

you've got an amazing body, keep it!

venus · 01-24-2005, 07:53 PM

and just to show you I dont just like lifting, here is a news video clip of me playing football
http://216.158.136.80/football.asf

tical · 01-24-2005, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by venus

I have tried some things, but it was because I thought I wanted to be bigger, I decided I like being a girl more then being big.
I have been lifting since I was 15, here is a newpaper article calling me a teen superstar

http://www.landofvenus.com/Dialog.jpg

I am the one outlined in yellow and under my real name "Hope"
That lift qualified me for the nationals.

Yeah, even little things like anavar or primo can slowly start to add some masculine features that you probably wouldn't catch but someone that hasn't seen you in a while would definitely be able to spot.

Some of those girls just look awful.

FredIsMe · 01-24-2005, 08:08 PM

here is my buddy chris cook, though his physique is the "ideal" I think it would be difficult for me to maintain as a regular joe that doesn't compete. So 250lbs for me is a lot but NOT too much to handle.

Spudstr · 01-24-2005, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FredIsMe

here is my buddy chris cook, though his physique is the "ideal" I think it would be difficult for me to maintain as a regular joe that doesn't compete. So 250lbs for me is a lot but NOT too much to handle.

thats to big IMHO.. in the picture. i couldn't function at my daily job that size :-/

FredIsMe · 01-24-2005, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Spudstr

thats to big IMHO.. in the picture. i couldn't function at my daily job that size :-/

that's a competitive size. he makes more money than anyone's salary, unless you're a CEO, being that size through sponsorships and photo shoots. I'd personally like it but not too many girls like that type of physique

LeWeekend · 01-24-2005, 08:23 PM

most suggestions in this thread really sucks.

probobly, you'll think mine also sucks

My suggestion is to start lifting weights for atleast a year, seriously, before even thinking about using anything like that.

there is no point in taking pro-hormones (they only fuck up your test levels), and no point in taking anavar (will not make give you the effect you are looking after, and you will probobly end up buying fakes anyway...).

toddler · 01-24-2005, 08:27 PM

hmm. I need to put some weight on myself. 5' 6" at 110. And I used to be able to bench 180. Not easily, but doable. MUCH stronger legs though, 850 on a hip sled. Maybe not a lot for you, but for 115 lbs(at the time), that ruled. BUT, I've had a desk job for 10 years. No more roofing house or installing land fill scales, just sysadmin. I still pour cement some, did 300 80lb bags last year(fuck I'm outa shape).

I need to eat more/better. Just not sure what. I don't eat fast food, but lots of chicken and turkey. And nutrigrain bars and 'Ensure' (I don't eat enough veggies). Planning on starting to swim some, maybe hit the gym some. Any ideas?

sherie · 01-24-2005, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FredIsMe

lol. small pee pee's? shows how ignorant you are. my personal reason for wanting to be big is because I want to be able to help out when there is need. How often is someone going to ask for calculus assistance, or biochemical assistance in the real world? When someone needs a fridge moved, or help moving a car I want to be capable of doing so. And being big isn't that easy, it's harder than being a fat slob like 1/3 of the American population.

LMFAO OK hero. That's what the world needs, another man in tights with a small dick! Giddy up tough guy!

Oh and BTW hurcurock, 'roids to shrink your dink!

PlugRush Sascha · 01-24-2005, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Holly

Not true. I'm not saying it can't happen to some people, but I was married to someone who took *plenty* of steroids and he definitely didn't have a small pecker. Depending on where he was in a cycle and what he was taking, sometimes it didn't stay hard as long, but if steroids shriveled your twig or berries up, he would have looked like a little girl.

^^^^^^

Not all steroids affect the size of your testicles. That's an opinion on the matter from the 1980s or so. The problem with today's steroids is not that they decrease the size of your testicles and shit like that (although it can happen, if you take the wrong ones). The problem is that these products have not been tested enough to make sure they're safe and that's why they're illegal. Certain steroids can be used to achieve something positive, but you need a really good doctor to tell you what to take and how much to take of it... and they can't tell you that, even if they know, because they're illegal. Most of the time it's just the wrong dosage that leads to problems with vital organs and shit like that. Most of the guys I know who've tried steroids bulked up like a motherfucker and were feeling great and then overdid it at some point, ended up in the hospital for a few months and are skinny-as-fuck now still trying to live a relatively normal life. I don't suggest taking steroids to anyone, but if you don't mind taking the risk of death and random shit happening to your body... go for it!

Young · 01-24-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FredIsMe

I'm all about being massive. 250lbs at 7% bf is my goal weight.

Thats almost impossible. Your going to have to do alot more than steroids.....

Thats practically competition shape...not something someone could realistically hold on to without putting themselves in some serious jepordy.

Do you know anything about how the body works or are you just one of those big dumb asses that go in there and grab weights? 3 hours of research on the internet doesn't make you a pro.

Steroids are for lazy bastards. Just ask Ken Caminiti.....oh wait

Young · 01-24-2005, 08:34 PM

oh by the way....I'm just under 7% body fat at 6'1" 200lbs shredded, i make my money off my body and I bust my ass in the gym naturally everyday. I touch anything unhealthy and my body fat shoots up. But good luck though

FredIsMe · 01-24-2005, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sherie

LMFAO OK hero. That's what the world needs, another man in tights with a small dick! Giddy up tough guy!

Oh and BTW hurcurock, 'roids to shrink your dink!

if roids shrink your "dink" please post proof (ie a valid research document)

FredIsMe · 01-24-2005, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Young

Thats almost impossible. Your going to have to do alot more than steroids.....

Thats practically competition shape...not something someone could realistically hold on to without putting themselves in some serious jepordy.

Do you know anything about how the body works or are you just one of those big dumb asses that go in there and grab weights? 3 hours of research on the internet doesn't make you a pro.

Steroids are for lazy bastards. Just ask Ken Caminiti.....oh wait

Did I say I was going to be 250lbs 7% by this summer? Obviously you can't read.

FredIsMe · 01-24-2005, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ktj4l

^^^^^^

Not all steroids affect the size of your testicles. That's an opinion on the matter from the 1980s or so. The problem with today's steroids is not that they decrease the size of your testicles and shit like that (although it can happen, if you take the wrong ones). The problem is that these products have not been tested enough to make sure they're safe and that's why they're illegal. Certain steroids can be used to achieve something positive, but you need a really good doctor to tell you what to take and how much to take of it... and they can't tell you that, even if they know, because they're illegal. Most of the time it's just the wrong dosage that leads to problems with vital organs and shit like that. Most of the guys I know who've tried steroids bulked up like a motherfucker and were feeling great and then overdid it at some point, ended up in the hospital for a few months and are skinny-as-fuck now still trying to live a relatively normal life. I don't suggest taking steroids to anyone, but if you don't mind taking the risk of death and random shit happening to your body... go for it!

you only live once, and what is so great about living till your 70 or even 60? Wow sit on your ass all day being retired....exciting...Might as well go out on top.

sherie · 01-24-2005, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FredIsMe

if roids shrink your "dink" please post proof (ie a valid research document)

You do your own research. Not only can they shrink your dink, they can put you into a coma and all sorts of fun stuff!

Oh the joys of wanting to move a fridge or so!

Hang on a sec, why am I having this conversation with you rather than the poster anyway? Roid rage has taken you over!! ;)

PlugRush Sascha · 01-24-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FredIsMe

you only live once, and what is so great about living till your 70 or even 60? Wow sit on your ass all day being retired....exciting...Might as well go out on top.

I never said it's great to live to 60 or 70. If you don't mind the possible side-effects (hey... Arnold Schwarzenegger is still alive...) and are willing to take the risk, go for it. I was just stating that there are risks and that the "steroids will shrink your balls" cliché is just that... a cliché.

sherie · 01-24-2005, 09:00 PM

oops and sorry that I said pee pee rather than testies, it's just a lot more fun to say pee pee!

Didn't want ya to roid rage on me again or toss a fridge at me!

FredIsMe · 01-24-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sherie

oops and sorry that I said pee pee rather than testies, it's just a lot more fun to say pee pee!

Didn't want ya to roid rage on me again or toss a fridge at me!

then dont make comments you can't support.

PlugRush Sascha · 01-24-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sherie

oops and sorry that I said pee pee rather than testies, it's just a lot more fun to say pee pee!

Didn't want ya to roid rage on me again or toss a fridge at me!

LMFAO. Fridge tossing isn't as fun as midget tossing though...

sherie · 01-24-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FredIsMe

then dont make comments you can't support.

LOL pee pee, testies, whatever. Face the facts, you want to take 'roids so that you can move a fridge or two LOL Doesn't that seem ODD to you in the least? Anyway, it's your health and your body, bust out I say, Hurcurock, bust out!!!

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FredIsMe So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Livin' in America Posts: 2,406	here is my buddy chris cook, though his physique is the "ideal" I think it would be difficult for me to maintain as a regular joe that doesn't compete. So 250lbs for me is a lot but NOT too much to handle.

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LeWeekend Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 288	most suggestions in this thread really sucks. probobly, you'll think mine also sucks My suggestion is to start lifting weights for atleast a year, seriously, before even thinking about using anything like that. there is no point in taking pro-hormones (they only fuck up your test levels), and no point in taking anavar (will not make give you the effect you are looking after, and you will probobly end up buying fakes anyway...).

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toddler Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: austin, tx Posts: 1,911	hmm. I need to put some weight on myself. 5' 6" at 110. And I used to be able to bench 180. Not easily, but doable. MUCH stronger legs though, 850 on a hip sled. Maybe not a lot for you, but for 115 lbs(at the time), that ruled. BUT, I've had a desk job for 10 years. No more roofing house or installing land fill scales, just sysadmin. I still pour cement some, did 300 80lb bags last year(fuck I'm outa shape). I need to eat more/better. Just not sure what. I don't eat fast food, but lots of chicken and turkey. And nutrigrain bars and 'Ensure' (I don't eat enough veggies). Planning on starting to swim some, maybe hit the gym some. Any ideas? __________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/zoddler/

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sherie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,020	oops and sorry that I said pee pee rather than testies, it's just a lot more fun to say pee pee! Didn't want ya to roid rage on me again or toss a fridge at me! __________________ AIM sherierocks ICQ 127-296-286 Skype traffichor Last edited by sherie; 01-24-2005 at 09:01 PM..