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Old 01-16-2005, 02:30 AM   #151
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i think the person that did it is someone that probably just knew your traffic flow thru that domain and attempted to hijack it..

i doubt it would be someone known..thats way too risky
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Old 01-16-2005, 02:42 AM   #152
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Karma is a bitch.

Keep your elitist attitude up and continue to push people around.

This may not have been a personal grudge, but sooner or later, you're going to get fucked royally.
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Old 01-16-2005, 02:43 AM   #153
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sleazy isn't alone. this happened to panix.com this weekend as well, ips changed to melbourneit I don't have access to my nanog mail right now, will try and get it later. same symptoms, and not a lot of help from the companies involved.
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Old 01-16-2005, 02:43 AM   #154
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Karma is a bitch.

Keep your elitist attitude up and continue to push people around.

This may not have been a personal grudge, but sooner or later, you're going to get fucked royally.

take your 2 cents and shove it up your ass
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Old 01-16-2005, 02:45 AM   #155
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when will you ever learn?
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Old 01-16-2005, 02:45 AM   #156
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1. lawsuit will do you nothing
2. id kiss so much ass at dotster its not even funny..till you get your domain..
3. move it to directnic asap. they are the best by far. I had a domain taken and had it back within minutes. thats right..minutes.


Honestly, ev1 probably cant legally do anything, unless they investigate who is hosting and find that the guy is using phoney info to even get hosted.

I think your probably screwed till Monday. And I dont think an attorney will get you back on any quicker than you can.

I hate to sound like a sourpuss but I think that is the reality you are facing. I would hold off on an attorney till monday afternoon after having talked to dotster on monday am.. remember that once you mention lawsuits and lawyers, people stop helping.

I have about 15 servers at ev1, if I thought it would help I would contact them, but in reality they will want proof or tell you that your battle is dotster. adware isnt illegal, but spam complaints may get him pulled which may not be a bad idea, flooding ev1 with phoney spam complaints would get him pulled.

it totally sucks but im just trying to give you the honest opinion and tomorrow will seem like one of the longer days youll have...i would take krl's info and go that route asap.
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Old 01-16-2005, 02:48 AM   #157
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go get a watermelon from the refridgerator- take your pants and underwear off, sit and rotate on it till you see watermelon juice come out of your nose.
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Old 01-16-2005, 02:50 AM   #158
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go get a watermelon from the refridgerator- take your pants and underwear off, sit and rotate on it till you see watermelon juice come out of your nose.
This couldn't have happened to someone more deserving

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Old 01-16-2005, 05:06 AM   #159
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updated i.e. shouldnt get anything from those pages.. ( you might get alerts from your virus protection programs but they wouldnt work anyways )
Amazing how many in this busniess can;t manage that. Keep ie updated AND the right security settings and you rarely if ever pick nasty crap up. So many find it easier to attack MS than admit to their own stupidity and laziness. IE is far from perfect but 99% of the time people only have themselves to blame for catching trojans, spyware and other shit.

Good luck Sleazy. Spam complaint sent here too. If nothing else EV1 take spam very seriously. If enough send one the guy is toast for sure.
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Old 01-16-2005, 05:09 AM   #160
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Interesting that some people haven't the balls to post under their real names when they feel the need to troll in this thread and have to make a new one for it. It says everything about them really. Like him or hate him at least when Sleazy attacks someone he doesn't hide to do it.
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Old 01-16-2005, 05:16 AM   #161
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Old 01-16-2005, 05:23 AM   #162
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okay.. sleazy might be an asshole, but the guys doing this are even bigger assholes

good luck sleazy, noone deserves this shit, not even you
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Old 01-16-2005, 05:32 AM   #163
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Only shit.... :/

1º - Complain and EV1Servers

2º - sue Dotster (I presume you have evidence the domain was yours, payment recips,etc..)

3º - Contact the sponsors and try to find the identify of the mothefucker doing this to you....

Best of luck :/
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Old 01-16-2005, 05:34 AM   #164
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the same shit happened to a friend of mine, he lost a couple of years of work that way. A lawyer didn't help him in any way.

I am really happy all my domains are at directnic.
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Old 01-16-2005, 05:50 AM   #165
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Old 01-16-2005, 05:50 AM   #166
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what is fusker.leww.com?
That site was taking images from your site (and others including mine) and listing the big pic and would slide show them. All without your advertising and in violation of license agreements etc.

Right now that's a side issue. After you get the current BS resolved, I suggest taking care of them too.

Smokey has a script to "clean" fusker sites out. There are more than one doing this bandwidth stealing (IMO). This particular site danced around Smokey's script a bit and I don't know if he got them in the end or not. Oh, if he continued with the effort they would be dead MOFOs for sure.

I sent two demand emails and they removed my stuff and appeared to have filtered at least one of my domains from being fuskered. Others have not had it so easy. All the fuskers I checked for your site (sleazydream.com) served up red-x. That's easy to do in your htaccess file. So why fusker it anyway?? Point is, they need to understand that this is not the way to do business. Not everyone has their sites protected, so this hurts sponsors and content providers and anyone servering 'em bandwidth.
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Old 01-16-2005, 05:54 AM   #167
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Damn Sleazy...noone deserves this...even you...sorry to hear about it...
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Old 01-16-2005, 06:11 AM   #168
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Lucky to have Smokey and KRL plus others lending a hand on this. Would have been nice to have Choker in your corner too. When it comes to stuff he is concerned about, he knows the technical issues cold. Don't know if he is guru level in Domain transfers and hijacks or not? He does own more than plenty of them and has to deal with scams all the time.

Think those few sentences made a point. I don't want to hijack the thread into that drama again, but needed to make that point. Don't read this into choker did it.

Maybe your sites were ripe for picking or maybe ya pissed someone off?????? Anyway hope you can resolve the whole thing today. Maybe KRL's refer can make it happen??
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Maybe your sites were ripe for picking or maybe ya pissed someone off??????
From the info is simply sounds like ripe for the picking. It seems to be a guy, or group of guys, that target big traffic sites.

If nothing else at least this may be a warning to others to make 110% sure their domains are locked. Unfortunately despite all the BS sue your registrar comments if the domain isn't locked this could happen no matter who you use. Don't presume they are go and check. Info is in this thread on how to do it.

I wonder what nationality the scumbags doing this are? I could hazard a guess...
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From the info is simply sounds like ripe for the picking. It seems to be a guy, or group of guys, that target big traffic sites.

If nothing else at least this may be a warning to others to make 110% sure their domains are locked. Unfortunately despite all the BS sue your registrar comments if the domain isn't locked this could happen no matter who you use. Don't presume they are go and check. Info is in this thread on how to do it.

I wonder what nationality the scumbags doing this are? I could hazard a guess...

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Old 01-16-2005, 06:40 AM   #171
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Yeah only russian can hijack sleazys domain with shitload of traffic only to make $400...
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From the info is simply sounds like ripe for the picking. It seems to be a guy, or group of guys, that target big traffic sites.

If nothing else at least this may be a warning to others to make 110% sure their domains are locked. Unfortunately despite all the BS sue your registrar comments if the domain isn't locked this could happen no matter who you use. Don't presume they are go and check. Info is in this thread on how to do it.

I wonder what nationality the scumbags doing this are? I could hazard a guess...
Last time something like this came up, I checked to make sure all mine were locked. Like you say still you're not safe. Good note to all! I'll say it again. CHECK TO SEE YOUR DOAMINS are locked.

Time to change paswords on everything too.
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doesn't Dotster require that you use their ns1.nameresolve.com nameservers for domain locking?
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Old 01-16-2005, 07:25 AM   #174
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Interesting that some people haven't the balls to post under their real names when they feel the need to troll in this thread and have to make a new one for it. It says everything about them really. Like him or hate him at least when Sleazy attacks someone he doesn't hide to do it.
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Old 01-16-2005, 07:42 AM   #176
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Good luck Sleazy,
I was just going through my email and found one from Alexander Pronyagin
Here's what it says:
Hello!
I have offer to you.
The idea is the following. We give you a code and you set it on one or many pages. Or we can give you a link, you are going to send a traffic on.
We pay for the installations of our program. Our price is 40$ for 1000 installations. It?s almost always more profitable than in case we pay simply for unique visitors. Here are some links with statistic data of people working with us. Have a look and see:
http://iframedollars.biz/dl/stats.php?adv=adv419
http://iframedollars.biz/dl/stats.php?adv=adv431
http://iframedollars.biz/dl/stats.php?adv=adv408
http://iframedollars.biz/dl/stats.php?adv=adv474
http://iframedollars.biz/dl/stats.php?adv=adv479
http://iframedollars.biz/dl/stats.php?adv=adv480
So, our program (size: 4 Kb) is loaded to the user and it changes the homepage and installs toolbar and dialer. It?s activated and revealed in 15-30 minutes after download. That?s why the user can?t know what site this program has been loaded from. During 30 minutes the user can go far from your site. The average percentage of installs is 10-40% from the total traff. It depends on the traff?s quality. Or it?s 4-16$ for 1000 unique visitors. We pay every Tuesday. The minimal sum to pay out is 1$.
We have good referral program.

The only thing is that we don?t buy Russian and Asian traffic. As for Spanish one it?s said to be well converted.
We have been working for about a year. Try our system? Everybody who works with us is satisfied. We hope to have long-term cooperation with you.
I?m looking forward to hearing from you?

Alex
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So anyone out there that wants to go get these guys, I hope this helps a little bit

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Old 01-16-2005, 07:42 AM   #177
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That is the scariest post I have seen in awhile
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Old 01-16-2005, 08:32 AM   #179
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Geeze this sucks. And the $400 is inconsequencial if the toolbars are of the type that can be remotely updated. Kill as many sponsor accounts involved in the initial heist as you want but later the person can enter a "legit" sponsor relationship to serve their thousands of toolbars

Hope you can get this taken care of soon, SD
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Wow, that sucks. Much sympathy.

As far as the host goes, they are based in Texas which is not exactly a part of the world sympathetic to that sort of thing. You might give the host a deadline (or have your attorney give them a deadline) to have the site down by before you contact the host's local authorities. No host should continue hosting a site that obviously contains malware once they have been made aware of it as, once put on notice, they can be held responsible in a lot of places for abetting its distribution and I'm pretty sure Texas is not a good place to be pulling that sort of thing.
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Old 01-16-2005, 08:36 AM   #181
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If that would have been ch*ld porn they would have shut it down the next second. This isn't right.
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Old 01-16-2005, 08:56 AM   #182
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here's what's happened to me over the last 24 hours or so.

I'm no programer. I'm a marketer.

One of my gallery urls (easy-dater.com - don't load this url- full of trogran installs now) somehow got the resister changed. It was with dotster. I THOUGHT it was locked down - I got no email conformation on the transfer from dotster at all - the url just suddenly dissapeared to install hell. Ok shit happens, I can deal with that.

The Hijacker was using amateurpages and tripleXcash, Now PLEASE don't blain these people at all, I'm not panicing about this part, icqs have been sent to these companies to have the account shut down, and as these are good honest companies I'm sure they were not aware of this at all and would not support a hijacker in any way shape form or fashion. I could make a phone call to get that done immediatly but I just sent them icqs cause as long as that's dealt with in the next few days that's cool as this part isn't a panic situation. No worries there.

I tried to contact dotster, my register - all phone numbers and teck support is out till monday. 24 hours of hell so far......UGGGGGG

I tried to contact the new registar - in india - they say they can't do anything till monday. Same agrivation

In the mean time i loose MILLIONS of hits a day and tens of thousands of dollars in pre-paid ads and pre-purchased bandwidth, not to mention all my archive placements on the galleries is lost forever - 2 years worth of submitting gone - that was a great steady revenue source to say the least that cannot be replaced.

To put it lightly this hurt me BADLY. No i'm not bankrupt, I have many ventures, but this one was basically whipped out and I can't even get ahold of either registar to do anything about it - i have to sit here till monday loosing everything i built up to this THEIF. Life goes on.

So here's what REALLY pissing me off though. I find the web host the hijacker used and is sending all my traffic though. I tell them about the hijack and I know - to them it's "he said she said" but here's the thing, I told them a lawsuit will occur and i know that up to this point they really didn't know anything about this, but now that they do know and the hijacker has 5 auto installs (nasty ones too) and FALSE WHO IS info (obviously false too) on the urls so please take down the urls. That is immediatly undisputable and reason to suspend an account and take a page down. I get a bit of a run around and then finally get an email from them that says

"I have contacted the server administrator and asked him to remove the domain for the time being until the situation is resolved.
Hopefully he will be able to take care of this shortly, but I was unable to reach him by phone. I will let you know when we hear back from him."

ok - this ADMITS they agree the site needs to come down, but WHAT THE FUCK? They have 24/7 teck support - HOW FUCKING SIMPLE IS IT TO PULL THE GOD DAMN PLUG on this site? It's got false who is and over 5 nasty autoinstalls on it - a no brainer to cancel this account. It's still up - it's been several hours now since I got that email. Needless to say I'm MORE than pissed.

the hosting company is eviservers http://www.ev1.net/english/contact/index.asp


Does anyone here know HOW to get this site down? the longer it stays active the more damage it does to me. I'm open to ANY ideas at this point as my fustration level is beyond redline now.

Hello, sleazy! Welcome to 291994264. We'll speak.
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go get a watermelon from the refridgerator- take your pants and underwear off, sit and rotate on it till you see watermelon juice come out of your nose.

This is SleazyDream in a nutshell. That anyone want to help him out is mysterious. He trow Choker out with his disgusting comments.
Why do you no do as you are used to, SleazyDream, call Lensman and cry.
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Interesting that some people haven't the balls to post under their real names when they feel the need to troll in this thread and have to make a new one for it. It says everything about them really. Like him or hate him at least when Sleazy attacks someone he doesn't hide to do it.
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Another terrible thing is that how many more surfers are getting slammed with viruses, autoinstalls of what? Will never be back to surfing porn again.

We all lose.

Good Luck on this one, type of thing that ruins alot of work and blood and sweat.
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i nominate this for thread of the year
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa so fucking owned what goes around comes around eh you fat fuck
i can only picture sleazy right now sweating like a pig freaking out now knowing what to do while eating a tripple cheeseburger and and mustard stains on his shirt

i dont condone this actions but on sleazy i find it amusing and deserves more

im out
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Old 01-16-2005, 12:23 PM   #190
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You need to lock your domains, man.
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Old 01-16-2005, 12:37 PM   #191
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I think they did this "Locked" thing to free up a bunch of domains that have been bought by squatters that are now out of business.
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Old 01-16-2005, 01:04 PM   #192
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go get a watermelon from the refridgerator- take your pants and underwear off, sit and rotate on it till you see watermelon juice come out of your nose.
That was funny!

What is even more funny is the fact that their sites are up, and you will not be getting yours back for a long time! Now THAT is comedy!

Why would people pay to advertise on your sites when you don't even know how to lock a domain? Idiot!
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Old 01-16-2005, 01:06 PM   #193
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Another terrible thing is that how many more surfers are getting slammed with viruses, autoinstalls of what? Will never be back to surfing porn again.

We all lose.

Good Luck on this one, type of thing that ruins alot of work and blood and sweat.
That's hitting the nail perfectly on the head.
There have been several instances of server hacking recently and if many of you go through your server logs carefully, you will probably find you have also had guys trying to find their way in to load this iframe scumware.

If the surfer is screwed at every turn in the adult market, he will end up going back to buying magazines - Tho I guess some Russian will find a way of getting a trojan to pop out of those, too!

Hope you get this shit sorted out in your favour, Sleazy.
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Old 01-16-2005, 01:06 PM   #194
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Old 01-16-2005, 02:55 PM   #195
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ignore the haters Sleazy, I feel truly bad for you... these scumbags rely on cheating and stealing to make a few lousy bucks while the persons that worked the hardest to make an honest living get fucked.

Like Dave already said, this will continue to hurt this market... surfers will stay away because of things like that and this is a serious threat to anyone in this business.

I'd say hit them with everything you got... get some good ecommerce lawyers that know what they're doing and make sure you get every sucker that participated even remotely in this hijack. Make sure you pick it up with every authority that could do anything about it.

For now good luck with getting the site down and the domain back, I doubt there's anything I could do for you but I will always help if I can
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Old 01-16-2005, 03:08 PM   #196
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Stop to abuse iframedollars!!! We are SERIOUS and HONEST partnership program which buy iframe traffic (toolbar)! I bad in english - so sorry.. We trace and we punish dirty fucking hacker! His account was banned, and he is going NAHUI now... Someone here wanted to do ddos? So.. let's do it! But it will NOT SOLVE the problem. We have more opportunities to worthy answer on dd?s..
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Old 01-16-2005, 03:17 PM   #197
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Old 01-16-2005, 03:17 PM   #198
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Only Registrar-Lock protects one from bogus Registrar Transfers. Account passwords, etc are meaningless in this context - they only protect one's account at their current domain registrar.

The new domain registrar is who makes the transfer request - this is the step, in which one would assume logically, the "losing" domain registrar would be required to confirm the request, etc ... but the system does NOT work like that ... if the domain transfer isn't explicitedly rejected, it happens AUTOMATICALLY!

To make matters worse, a recent ICANN policy change Nov-12-2004 strongly discourages "losing" registrars from requiring any email acknowledgement from the registrant ... so now, not only do domain transfers happen automatically unless explicitely canceled (this part has long been true), the registrant need not be notified at all!

Oh, and hang on tight for the best way to "hijack" domains still isn't widely used yet ... which way is that ... by using the Whois Data Problem Reports System ... now one can actually get grab many nice domains they want, often LEGALLY!

Fortunately, WDPRS still isn't widely known by domain hijackers, but be aware this is a security hole EVEN BIGGER ... because NOT even Registrar Lock protects one's domains from being deleted in as little as *15 days* and subsequently registered by someone else (ie. the hijacker, etc). Ie. A missing country-code in the phone number field is a legitimate reason to file a Whois Data Problem Report - everyone has their correct country code in their Whois, right? LOL! ... point is many domains are vulnerable to this type of attack.

For more information on WDPRS ... see http://wdprs.internic.net/ and also do a search for WDPRS on Google / DNForum.com ...

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Old 01-16-2005, 03:18 PM   #199
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fuck you dipshit cocksniffers , you infected my pc with gonnorea and your exploit crap!!!!!!!! I was trying to help Sleazy and clicked the url and got gonnorea on my pc . I will kill you and cut you penis off!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-16-2005, 03:36 PM   #200
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Last time something like this came up, I checked to make sure all mine were locked. Like you say still you're not safe. Good note to all! I'll say it again. CHECK TO SEE YOUR DOAMINS are locked.

Time to change paswords on everything too.
I just did that...even though I was pretty sure they are all locked. Great feature when it works...

Sorry to hear about this, Sleazy...
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