IBILL Pays U.S. Webmasters....

[DEA - banned for life]

US Payout Check Date 12/15/04
Please be advised that the US payout for check date 12/15/04 was processed and paid on January 11, 2005.

The statement for this check date is currently visible in CMI. US Clients can go to the Accounting section of CMI and select check date 12/15/04 to view the details of this payout


About Time

[Hinc]

Show me the money !!!

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Hinc

Show me the money !!!

Who do you work for?

[Johny Traffic]

cool news

[keyboard warrior]

Ibill Payed Shit Today! Only New Sign Ups No Fucking Rebills At All!

They Fucking Suck!

[vicki]

I sure hope thats the truth, alot of people waiting on money from them

[MickeyG]

finally some cash!, I hope this is the first of many to come.. (of course im not holding my breath)

[brand0n]

Originally Posted by DEA

US Payout Check Date 12/15/04
Please be advised that the US payout for check date 12/15/04 was processed and paid on January 11, 2005.

The statement for this check date is currently visible in CMI. US Clients can go to the Accounting section of CMI and select check date 12/15/04 to view the details of this payout


About Time

big ole ball of res on you? lol.

[Webby]

IBILL Pays U.S. Webmasters....

What is said on the CMI and what they do in real life are totally alien.

So far, least on this fresh bullshit update, they claim to have made or making payments to everyone.

Bet $5000 some may end up with some money, others part money, others no money.

There is no evidence to assume anything has any credibility when announced by iBill.

If there is any excuse, method of deviation, rest assured iBill will find one as a reason not to pay. (The post room staff went on stike blah).

[keyboard warrior]

They are only paying for "NEW SIGN UPS! NO REBILLS!"

THEY FUCKING SUCK!

[keyboard warrior]

Originally Posted by MickeyG

finally some cash!, I hope this is the first of many to come.. (of course im not holding my breath)

Dont count on getting any rebills!

[DEA - banned for life]

Originally Posted by Webby

What is said on the CMI and what they do in real life are totally alien.

So far, least on this fresh bullshit update, they claim to have made or making payments to everyone.

Bet $5000 some may end up with some money, others part money, others no money.

There is no evidence to assume anything has any credibility when announced by iBill.

If there is any excuse, method of deviation, rest assured iBill will find one as a reason not to pay. (The post room staff went on stike blah).

Your post seems so gloomy for somone who has no stake in wether ibill pays or not...Cheer up man ..your one of the smart ones who didnt get fucked remember

[tony286]

Thats not true cmi shows we are getting paid for both.

[killshot]

Originally Posted by keyboard warrior

They are only paying for "NEW SIGN UPS! NO REBILLS!"

THEY FUCKING SUCK!

My CMI shows that I will be getting rebills

has this happened to anyone else?

[tony286]

Originally Posted by killshot

My CMI shows that I will be getting rebills

has this happened to anyone else?

Who knows if he really has a ibill account and not just here to cause grief.
Why would they just pay on new sign ups

[Webby]

DEA:

Your post seems so gloomy for somone who has no stake in wether ibill pays or not...Cheer up man ..your one of the smart ones who didnt get fucked remember

Just watching... and watching hard!

I got a catalog of utter bullshit here that ranges from "misunderstandings" to blatant lies, some verified, others verifiable by third parties. Hell.. Can't see any reason for the leopard to change spots mid-stream. I don't like liars.

Rest assured if they did owe more that made it worth chasing - I'd be in Deerfield Park right now collecting dollar notes - no checks or bullshit. Tho I may end up there for other reasons yet along with a few others who have more substantial interest. My interest ain't going to disappear even if iBill declare bankruptcy as an escape route or pay in full.

[- AFN -]

I only see a small portion of what they owe me for 12/15/2004 Im thinking they arent paying rebills. which yes does suck ass. money hasnt hit my account yet either but it shows in the CMI now atleast. just gotta sit and wait I guess some is better than none anyday

[directfiesta]

This payout covers 11/15/2004 to 11/30/2004 ????

When I check my sales ( all rebills ) for that period, it is more by 30% than what they show in the cmi ( detail of check)... Hard to follow.

But it is better than nothing or Globill....

New signups will happen ONLY if they:

- payout on a regular FIXED schedule
- start paying out the " old" balance due.

[keyboard warrior]

Originally Posted by - AFN -

I only see a small portion of what they owe me for 12/15/2004 Im thinking they arent paying rebills. which yes does suck ass. money hasnt hit my account yet either but it shows in the CMI now atleast. just gotta sit and wait I guess some is better than none anyday

They Are Not Paying Current Rebills!

FUCKING SUX

[Webby]

- AFN -:

I only see a small portion of what they owe me for 12/15/2004 Im thinking they arent paying rebills. which yes does suck ass. money hasnt hit my account yet either but it shows in the CMI now atleast. just gotta sit and wait I guess some is better than none anyday

Least you may be half way to getting any payment! :-) Wait for the excuse or the boucing check or non-existant wire.

That $5K bet still stands - nothing has any element of truth till ALL webmasters are paid whatever due balances.

Hate to say it AFN - you got a rattler as a processor.

[killshot]

There is no discrepancy between signups, rebills, and what is posted in the CMI for period of 11-16 to 11-30 for me.

You should give them a call.....
I would be interested in hearing what they have to say about it.

[killshot]

Originally Posted by Webby

- AFN -:

That $5K bet still stands -

Where are the hardcore ibill supporters to take you up on this? ;)

[- AFN -]

ive been with ibill since day one. since the very first day they started accepting credit cards. my webmaster id is only 4 digits if that tells you anything

[Webby]

killshot:

Where are the hardcore ibill supporters to take you up on this? ;)

Gotta be honest... I have stuff here right now that would confirm any bet It would be like robbing a kid of a toy.

Add to that... this has always being proven 100% accurate under these circumstances - there is more yet to come which is unknown at the moment.

Na.. I would not take the money off even an iBill supporter!! :-) Hell, I ain't got anything against iBill either.

Any money iBill do pay is something out of their hands - a good start - and some webmasters end up with at least some payment.

[Sophmaster]

Saw they made a payment in CMI but nothing yet in my bank account ! Will have to wait tomorrow I guess !

[faxxaff]

They say a check will show up in the statement for 12/08 or 12/22, but nothing. They just owe me a couple of hundred $, but they are just liars. Still waiting for some reply.

[MickeyG]

they did this same thing to one of my revshare accounts, The amount they show paid is like 40% less then the cmi shows for the same period. I've been writting them for an answer and they said thats my share? Makes no sense to me.

[Scottybunky]

To me it looks like they are paying rebills that is if you moved to gkard during November 15th-31st

otherwise there would be no rebills for visa

Paying 12/15/2004 is one thing

But there has been no news on monies owed for September and October 2004 where are the promisary notes signed?

We are the payments that were suppose to be paid out over 12 months with 6% intrest according to the confrence call?

[scardog]

"We are the payments that were suppose to be paid out over 12 months with 6% intrest according to the confrence call? "

Can we take a minute and be thankful they are still in business and writing checks to us? Jeez! Didn't you hear all those guys that said they would never pay us another penny? They are just stealing our money, remember? First data has that money, and hopefully we will get it.

[Webby]

faxxaff:

They say a check will show up in the statement for 12/08 or 12/22, but nothing. They just owe me a couple of hundred $, but they are just liars. Still waiting for some reply.

It don't matter if it's $10 - it is not unreasonable to have a simple statement of fact/explanation. They are getting paid to handle the processing and reasonable they do this in a competent way. Tho suspect you may wait long enough for a response and if you get one, - it will be the usual avoidance and buck passing by reps.



MickeyG:

they did this same thing to one of my revshare accounts, The amount they show paid is like 40% less then the cmi shows for the same period. I've been writting them for an answer and they said thats my share? Makes no sense to me.

The CMI shows a lot of weird crap... not just on your account. Oddly, it never records surplus amounts that may be in error. Rest assured the CMI is not necessarily a reflection of any fact either - I'd be inclined to double check everything from iBill :-)

[Webby]

scardog:

Can we take a minute and be thankful they are still in business and writing checks to us? Jeez! Didn't you hear all those guys that said they would never pay us another penny? They are just stealing our money, remember? First data has that money, and hopefully we will get it.

Thankful?? :-)

So far, since that conference call, they have still not paid a dime to several I know of. They have not issued any promissory notes as agreed.

On First Data funds, who said webmasters will be paid this? iBill? :-) Maybe if First Data were provided the payment list and paid out direct to webmasters, I'd have some confidence in this. These funds belong to iBill and iBill management have full rights to dispense it as they see fit. (Tho other legal shit may inhibit them from "appearing" to treat this as their own.)

If you can trust iBill to handle or account for any money - fine, but maybe not too wise :-)

[tony286]

Webby if you are owed no money by iBill what are you bitching about? Is someone making worth your time to bash them? I would bet 50% the bashers are not ibill customers. It must really piss some people off that iBill is still breathing.

[Shoplifter]

Nothing in the bank here today which is a bit unnerving as we usually receive wires same day. I'm sure it will be in tomorrow tho.

[oldnewbie]

We've never received ACH the same day. So tomorrow should be more informative.

[Webby]

tony404:

Webby if you are owed no money by iBill what are you bitching about? Is someone making worth your time to bash them? I would bet 50% the bashers are not ibill customers. It must really piss some people off that iBill is still breathing.

First... I am owed money, tho not enough to warrant spending travel time/legal fees on that aspect.

Second, if you think I am bitching now, you ain't seen the start of it which could continue for several years on other matters.

Third... Why would you even think that "50% of the bashers are not iBill customers"? I am one that is pissed off iBill is even allowed to operate one day more, - not for any reason of gain or any ulterior motive as suggested, - but simply that it is my opinion they are unfit to handle any funds and that these are better off being distributed by a liquidator. Especially any funds forthcoming from First Data.

Finally... I don't have any problems with iBill or any reason than otherwise stated above, to see them hit the dirt. Preferably, I'd like to see a continuance of iBill as a third party processor. However, based on all the unfullfilled promises, lies, non-payment blah... there has to be a time of reckoning and settlement, whether this is in monetary value or otherwise.

Fundamentally.. this is all common sense stuff. Living some dream and listening to lies from a debtor is miles away from any reality. iBill are up shit creek with little hope, tho I do wish them well if they are making an effort despite all their bullshit.

[Dawgy]

i still wish they would explain where all the money they are collecting from surfers is going.... ibill is paying some clients every week on time without delay.... but they shouldnt need everyones money for that, just the money from those company's clients.... why cant they send company A the money collected from company A's customers???? WHAT ARE THEY DOING WITH THAT MONEY?!?

jesus...

[Scottybunky]

"We are the payments that were suppose to be paid out over 12 months with 6% intrest according to the confrence call? "

Can we take a minute and be thankful they are still in business and writing checks to us? Jeez! Didn't you hear all those guys that said they would never pay us another penny? They are just stealing our money, remember? First data has that money, and hopefully we will get it.

[Scottybunky]

""We are the payments that were suppose to be paid out over 12 months with 6% intrest according to the confrence call? "

Can we take a minute and be thankful they are still in business and writing checks to us? Jeez! Didn't you hear all those guys that said they would never pay us another penny? They are just stealing our money, remember? First data has that money, and hopefully we will get it. "

Quote Scardog Above

Im not giving them a pat on their back for giving the money that is mine. Ibill is not doing me favor by paying me. Sorry pal Im not clapping my hands because they came through and gave me what I was owed. I earned my sales and agreed to give Ibill 15% not 100% the 85% is my money. Thats how I pay for hosting content etc... First Data is none of my concern that is between Ibill and First Data... My landlord isnt going to listen to the Ibill story he wants hid rent on time... My landlord doesnt care that Ibill lost their merchant bank and neither do models. Dont get me wrong Im glad that the money is coming rather than to get none. Ibill knows they need to pay people to avoid legal action from 100's of webmasters its a good idea that theu pay

[scardog]

Continueing to bash the much bashed Ibill is a far cry from patting them on the back. Ibill's survival is good for the industry. Am I pissed about what happened? Of course, everyone in their right mind is. You do know they can declare bankruptcy and you don't get a penny of your money right? What will your landlord think of that?

I am celebrating that not happening, not patting them on the back

[HAPPYPEEKERS]

I can not believe it but we got a check from them today!

[Webby]

Happypeekers:

I can not believe it but we got a check from them today!

Nice one!

BUT.... bank it first.. quickly... and make sure it clears! :-)

[jimmyf]

Originally Posted by Scottybunky

First Data is none of my concern that is between Ibill and First Data...

I think most don't get this..

[Scottybunky]

"Am I pissed about what happened? Of course, everyone in their right mind is. You do know they can declare bankruptcy and you don't get a penny of your money right? What will your landlord think of that?"

Quote above Scardog

Scardog how much money are you owed? $200,000 US or more?

Scardog "You do know they can declare bankruptcy and you don't get a penny of your money right?"

Wrong

Bankrupcy wont save them from paying. They will pay.

PS I dont need your advisement on what to do with my buisness.

Im owed a ton more than one check for November 15th-30th sales.

Scardog Did you listen to the confrence call?

And Im not going to forget about what was said in the confrence call and what they said in regards to the 12 month payments with 6% intrest that we heard nothing new on as of yet. Had I gotten the promisary letters and my first check for September and October 2004 + reserves that they had promised to have in November than it chnaged to December and now we hear nothing about.

[scardog]

You are owed $200,000+ and you have a landlord?

You can scream all you want about Ibill will pay, Ibill will pay. I am happy I got my check today, are you? No? That's wierd. Will I be angry if I don't get the 10s of thousands they owe me (I am the landlord)? Yes.

Let's look at the history of troubled 3rd party billers. Did they all pay? If they did then I suppose I should be screaming too. I think I will consider any money I get from a company that everyone has already counted out, pennies from heaven. If they don't pay me, then I will let my attorney do my whining.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Scottybunky

"Am I pissed about what happened? Of course, everyone in their right mind is. You do know they can declare bankruptcy and you don't get a penny of your money right? What will your landlord think of that?"

Quote above Scardog

Scardog how much money are you owed? $200,000 US or more?

Scardog "You do know they can declare bankruptcy and you don't get a penny of your money right?"

Wrong

Bankrupcy wont save them from paying. They will pay.

PS I dont need your advisement on what to do with my buisness.

Im owed a ton more than one check for November 15th-30th sales.

Scardog Did you listen to the confrence call?

And Im not going to forget about what was said in the confrence call and what they said in regards to the 12 month payments with 6% intrest that we heard nothing new on as of yet. Had I gotten the promisary letters and my first check for September and October 2004 + reserves that they had promised to have in November than it chnaged to December and now we hear nothing about.

No you are wrong if they go into bankruptcy , you will get 5 cents on the dollar. Talk to the globil people who get the notices from the bankruptcy court they arent getting shit.
Also ask them how they would of felt if they had to wait for a couple of months for their money instead of getting nothing. Also just because its said on a board doesnt mean its true. How do you know others companies got paid weekly? Do you work in accounting for those companies? Just because someone who could have a agenda says it on board doesnt make it gospel. Also when your in business for yourself you should have at least 3 months of living expenses if not more. Any of these processors could fall and if you think the first thing on their minds will be paying you .Your fooling yourself. Compared to others that have fallen ibill is trying to get out of this hole . Im owed just like everyone else in fact this happened at the same time we were moving into a office and buying our first house. Talk about fucking scary, but I believe if I support ibill I believe it increases my chances of getting paid , call me silly.On the other hand bitching and spreading stories and rumors I have heard and threats of lawyers I havent seen it speeding up anyones payout. .

[Scottybunky]

The landlord is a figure of speech... And besides does anyone here rent office space? I guess if you do and make over $200,000 grand you must be poor according to scardog

Nobody cares when you cant pay thats the bottom line they want their money. Whether it be a landlord or a server company.

"then I will let my attorney do my whining." Scardog

I guess if anyone here has a complaint or is sore at ibill than we must be a whiner.

Please everyone shutup scardog is happy dont want to spoil his day.

I dont have time to go back and fourth with you here so go ahead with you comeback line.

Im glad that your happy! If you read my post in regards to you responce I said

"Dont get me wrong Im glad that the money is coming rather than to get none. Ibill knows they need to pay people to avoid legal action from 100's of webmasters its a good idea that they pay"

[Scottybunky]

"but I believe if I support ibill I believe it increases my chances of getting paid , call my silly.On the other hand bitching and spreading stories and rumors I have heard and threats of lawyers I havent seen it speeding up anyones payout"

I hope your not saying that Im spreading rumors... is it a rumor that the promisary notes have not been signed? Is it a rumor that I have not been paid? Did you get paid on time? Sounds to me like you havent.

You can support ibill by repling to each message I guess I dont see how that will give them money. Im glad your postivie thinker .... so am I. At the same time I base my beliefs on reality. And the reality is Im getting a check tommorrow according to cmi hip hip hooray! way to go ibill! Does that make you guys feel better

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Scottybunky

"but I believe if I support ibill I believe it increases my chances of getting paid , call my silly.On the other hand bitching and spreading stories and rumors I have heard and threats of lawyers I havent seen it speeding up anyones payout"

I hope your not saying that Im spreading rumors... is it a rumor that the promisary notes have not been signed? Is it a rumor that I have not been paid? Did you get paid on time? Sounds to me like you havent.

You can support ibill by repling to each message I guess I dont see how that will give them money. Im glad your postivie thinker .... so am I. At the same time I base my beliefs on reality. And the reality is Im getting a check tommorrow according to cmi hip hip hooray! way to go ibill! Does that make you guys feel better

Im not saying your spreading anything, I just find it interesting all these people with very very lo posts counts came out of the wood work to bash ibill.I find interesting.

[scardog]

Here is my comback. If you are so confident Ibill will pay, then why so down ?

I have been holding my breath hoping to get paid. When they write me a check, I am one step closer to getting my money without a lawyer. My point is, let's take a moment, be happy we got a check. Just a moment, that's all.
There is plenty of things in life that are shitty, and if that's what you focus on, then that is your choice. The Ibill situation ranks way up on the shitty scale, but I am past that point. You have the right not to be. Now, I am going to spend the money I got from Ibill.

You aren't a whiner, I guess I am just not as confident as you that Ibill will pay me all they owe me, but I am hopeful. Can I get an amen?

[Scottybunky]

amen to scardog

to Tony I have low post count cause I dont normally waste my time jibber jabbering on Gofuckyourself.com