Essentials to pack for vegas - GoFuckYourself.com

SleazyDream · 01-01-2005, 11:55 PM

things to pack for a porn convention

laptop and cords
cell phone
cell phone charger
business cards
watch
tooth brush
brush
colone
deodorant
digital camera
digital camera charger
breifs, socks, shirts, and pants - 2 for each day
jacket
extra shoes
wallet - cash, credit cards, id
passport
flight ittenary

anything else?

newbreed · 01-01-2005, 11:57 PM

razor blades

Illicit · 01-01-2005, 11:57 PM

you forgot the condoms !

newbreed · 01-01-2005, 11:58 PM

also I would print a master schedule for all the events you plan to attend

Pete-KT · 01-01-2005, 11:58 PM

Condoms

pete

newbreed · 01-01-2005, 11:59 PM

and for fuck's sake, can I get one of your business cards this year finally?

Arika has one, and I have felt left out for months...

cosis · 01-01-2005, 11:59 PM

floss is good

SleazyDream · 01-01-2005, 11:59 PM

things to pack for a porn convention

laptop and cords
cell phone
cell phone charger
business cards
watch
tooth brush
razor ( blades or electric)
brush
colone
deodorant
digital camera
digital camera charger
breifs, socks, shirts, and pants - 2 for each day
jacket
extra shoes
wallet - cash, credit cards, id
passport
flight ittenary
convention schedule

anything else?

Varius · 01-02-2005, 12:00 AM

mouthwash ?

makefuckingmoney · 01-02-2005, 12:00 AM

I always need Carmex , Visine and Advil

Elli · 01-02-2005, 12:00 AM

phone numbers on paper in case you lose your phone
dialup number for internet access in case hotel service doesn't work
book
notepad and pen
deck of cards
tylenol and vitamins to keep healthy

SleazyDream · 01-02-2005, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete-KT

Condoms

pete

i'm not packing condoms or pete

modF · 01-02-2005, 12:01 AM

With all of the trouble in the baggage claim in the past week or so, I'm going to have a change of clothes in my travel bag/laptop just to be on the safe side.

Also, I keep a little tote of shoe polish in my luggage.

Warden · 01-02-2005, 12:02 AM

How bout your Players Ball gear?

Elli · 01-02-2005, 12:04 AM

for the girls:
comfy shoes for the flight and walking excursions
sexy shoes for parties
sexy but comfy shoes for the convention
hairspray

SleazyDream · 01-02-2005, 12:05 AM

things to pack for a porn convention

laptop and cords
cell phone
essential phone numbers on paper
cell phone charger
business cards
watch
tooth brush and toothpaste
floss
razor ( blades or electric)
tylenol/asprin and vitamins to keep healthy
brush
colone
mouthwash
deodorant
digital camera
digital camera charger
breifs, socks, shirts, and pants - 2 for each day
jacket
extra shoes
wallet - cash, credit cards, id
passport
flight ittenary
convention schedule

anything else?

modF · 01-02-2005, 12:06 AM

Ahh RJ-45 just in case.

Za Ha · 01-02-2005, 12:17 AM

- armcandy
- bodyguards

SleazyDream · 01-02-2005, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Za Ha

- armcandy
- bodyguards

you PACK your armcandy? are they inflatable?

Warden · 01-02-2005, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

you PACK your armcandy? are they inflatable?

Inflatable????

Shit no wonder mine doesn't work!

Za Ha · 01-02-2005, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

you PACK your armcandy? are they inflatable?

LMAO

fine, what bout a pen, in cause u gotta write something down.

webgurl · 01-02-2005, 12:23 AM

I don't like the generic stuff hotels provide for the shampoo/conditioner and bodywash

i bring my own ..

sleazy did u print out your hotel and Internext pass confirm # ?

LA Mike · 01-02-2005, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

things to pack for a porn convention

laptop and cords
cell phone
cell phone charger
business cards
watch
tooth brush
brush
colone
deodorant
digital camera
digital camera charger
breifs, socks, shirts, and pants - 2 for each day
jacket
extra shoes
wallet - cash, credit cards, id
passport
flight ittenary

anything else?

You forgot the Sleazy stickers

J$tyle$ · 01-02-2005, 12:28 AM

Back-up cell phone from a different carrier than your main cell

I never go to a convention without 2 cell phones. (or anywhere else for that matter)

LOL

... and don't forget your own favorite soap. I hate that hotel crap!

LA Mike · 01-02-2005, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

Back-up cell phone from a different carrier than your main cell

I never go to a convention without 2 cell phones. (or anywhere else for that matter)

LOL

... and don't forget your own favorite soap. I hate that hotel crap!

good call on the soap.. I ALWAYS forget mine

Shoehorn! · 01-02-2005, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makefuckingmoney

I always need Carmex , Visine and Advil

Definately a good idea to bring some kind of chapstick/lotion for that dry desert air.

LA Mike · 01-02-2005, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn

Definately a good idea to bring some kind of chapstick/lotion for that dry desert air.

And a humidifier

chase · 01-02-2005, 12:31 AM

This is my first show, so I'm going on common sense here, not experience
planner/pda-with lunch or breakfast with me scheduled in it, of course ;)
visene (lotsa smoke at parties makes my eyes hurt)
good book for the flight
blank cd-r's to burn pic cd's as you go
tylenol
lotion (dry air makes your skin dry out)
chapstick (dry air again)

SleazyDream · 01-02-2005, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn

Definately a good idea to bring some kind of chapstick/lotion for that dry desert air.

execellent

Phil21 · 01-02-2005, 12:32 AM

It's vegas.. Dry as hell for those not used to it - carmex or your favorite equivilent is a must.

Cash? I like to bring enough for a day or two "just in case" you lose wallet/etc. (obviously keep seperate from wallet)

Shoe inserts for walking/standing - anyone that has been to more than 1 or 2 of these things, knows your feet hurt like a motherfucker after standing/walking 18 hours a day for days on end - especially in shoes you generally do not wear every day.

-Phil

J$tyle$ · 01-02-2005, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAMike

good call on the soap.. I ALWAYS forget mine

Sleazy has a good list ... seasoned traveler fo sho!

Gotta bring your own soap though!

... and not to get too personal - but I prefer to bring wipeys over using toilet paper ... after a night of eating and boozing ... and some more late night eating - toilet paper is just outta tha question the following morning!!!!

LMFAO

Voodoo · 01-02-2005, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed

and for fuck's sake, can I get one of your business cards this year finally?

Arika has one, and I have felt left out for months...

I have 4.

chase · 01-02-2005, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoehorn

Definately a good idea to bring some kind of chapstick/lotion for that dry desert air.

LOL, while I was thinking my post out you beat me to the punch

J$tyle$ · 01-02-2005, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAMike

And a humidifier

First thing I ask for when I check in!

or I send someone out to buy one for the week in Vegas!!

chase · 01-02-2005, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

Sleazy has a good list ... seasoned traveler fo sho!

Gotta bring your own soap though!

... and not to get too personal - but I prefer to bring wipeys over using toilet paper ... after a night of eating and boozing ... and some more late night eating - toilet paper is just outta tha question the following morning!!!!

LMFAO

LA Mike · 01-02-2005, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

Sleazy has a good list ... seasoned traveler fo sho!

Gotta bring your own soap though!

... and not to get too personal - but I prefer to bring wipeys over using toilet paper ... after a night of eating and boozing ... and some more late night eating - toilet paper is just outta tha question the following morning!!!!

LMFAO

I just make sure I get a pimp room with a boday

not sure how to spell that

Elli · 01-02-2005, 12:39 AM

I already said 'pen', silly.

Yes, I always bring a little pack of those baby wipes. Ok, they're not baby wipes. They're called "Fresh Ups", but if it looks like a duck and smells like a duck...

I don't use them for toilet paper, but they're nice after you've been shaking hands and touching godknowswhat in the casino all day.
Barring that, some Purel hand sanitizer is good.

chase · 01-02-2005, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAMike

I just make sure I get a pimp room with a boday

not sure how to spell that

bidet i think

J$tyle$ · 01-02-2005, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAMike

I just make sure I get a pimp room with a boday

not sure how to spell that

Now I gotta erase the mental picture of you bent over with water shooting up at your ass, bro!

HELP!!!!

I'm sure me using wipey's isn't a pretty sight either!!

LOL

chase · 01-02-2005, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli

I already said 'pen', silly.

Yes, I always bring a little pack of those baby wipes. Ok, they're not baby wipes. They're called "Fresh Ups", but if it looks like a duck and smells like a duck...

I don't use them for toilet paper, but they're nice after you've been shaking hands and touching godknowswhat in the casino all day.
Barring that, some Purel hand sanitizer is good.

That's funny, I actually just packed some of that about 45 seconds before I refreshed the page and saw your post, lol.

Greg Jacobson · 01-02-2005, 12:42 AM

On the way from the airport to your hotel have the driver stop at a mini-mart and pick up several gallons of bottled water unless you want to drink tap water.

Someone else posted about lotion. It is needed while in Vegas in a bad way. Plus you can use it for lube if needed.

LA Mike · 01-02-2005, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$

Now I gotta erase the mental picture of you bent over with water shooting up at your ass, bro!

HELP!!!!

I'm sure me using wipey's isn't a pretty sight either!!

LOL

hahahahahahahaha

Elli · 01-02-2005, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobson

On the way from the airport to your hotel have the driver stop at a mini-mart and pick up several gallons of bottled water unless you want to drink tap water.

Someone else posted about lotion. It is needed while in Vegas in a bad way. Plus you can use it for lube if needed.

Um, if it's perfumed lotion, it can hurt like a mofo if the girl is sensitive at all, and depending on its composition, it could eat through a condom. Be careful with that application of it

Greg Jacobson · 01-02-2005, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elli

Um, if it's perfumed lotion, it can hurt like a mofo if the girl is sensitive at all, and depending on its composition, it could eat through a condom. Be careful with that application of it

There is going to be a female invloved? I can't wait!!!

Elli · 01-02-2005, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobson

There is going to be a female invloved? I can't wait!!!

Silly me, making assumptions again.

abyss_al · 01-02-2005, 12:59 AM

ass wipes... never leave home without them

SleazyDream · 01-02-2005, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobson

On the way from the airport to your hotel have the driver stop at a mini-mart and pick up several gallons of bottled water unless you want to drink tap water.

Someone else posted about lotion. It is needed while in Vegas in a bad way. Plus you can use it for lube if needed.

GREAT idea - get SEVERAL cases - it's like $5 a bottle in the hotel and $5 a case in a supermarket.

Pornwolf · 01-02-2005, 01:36 AM

Cocaine seems to be pretty popular. Xanax and Vicoden are probably winners as well. Ya can't forget to pack those convention necessities. Also remember to keep the marijuana tucked behind your socks in your dress shoes in your carry on bag for easy scanner evasion and transporting.

You probably shouldn't pack the cocaine in the carry on bag and instead you should Fed Ex it to Las Vegas in advance. There are dogs at the airport looking for people like you. Customs come down hard on those kinds of things but you can always have it waiting for you on arrival. Of course you need to do several rails as soon as you get in your hotel room and throw a television out of the window to get motivated to do business with your fellow webmasters. Nothing says, "I'm here to do business" more than slinging something past people's heads from the 27th floor. If the TV is nailed down, a bottle of beer or alarm clock will work just fine.

*Note* If you really want people to notice do something different like tossing the ironing board out of the window and let it glide into the pool. This is Vegas after all, so please try to make it different and more exciting than the Hollywood expo.

The advance shipping method also works for your gun as most of us Americans already know. When you people from other countries walk past the front desk and you see a standard Fed Ex or other postal box behind the counter you can rest assured that it is a fellow webmaster's 9mm or .38 caliber gun that has been shipped in advance and is just waiting to be picked up. Don't forget Las Vegas is the wild west so 1 out of every 4 people you pass has a gun in his pocket. You know how we love guns over here!

Welcome to America!

J$tyle$ · 01-02-2005, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Cocaine seems to be pretty popular. Xanax and Vicoden are probably winners as well. Ya can't forget to pack those convention necessities. Also remember to keep the marijuana tucked behind your socks in your dress shoes in your carry on bag for easy scanner evasion and transporting.

You probably shouldn't pack the cocaine in the carry on bag and instead you should Fed Ex it to Las Vegas in advance. There are dogs at the airport looking for people like you. Customs come down hard on those kinds of things but you can always have it waiting for you on arrival. Of course you need to do several rails as soon as you get in your hotel room and throw a television out of the window to get motivated to do business with your fellow webmasters. Nothing says, "I'm here to do business" more than slinging something past people's heads from the 27th floor. If the TV is nailed down, a bottle of beer or alarm clock will work just fine.

*Note* If you really want people to notice do something different like tossing the ironing board out of the window and let it glide into the pool. This is Vegas after all, so please try to make it different and more exciting than the Hollywood expo.

The advance shipping method also works for your gun as most of us Americans already know. When you people from other countries walk past the front desk and you see a standard Fed Ex or other postal box behind the counter you can rest assured that it is a fellow webmaster's 9mm or .38 caliber gun that has been shipped in advance and is just waiting to be picked up. Don't forget Las Vegas is the wild west so 1 out of every 4 people you pass has a gun in his pocket. You know how we love guns over here!

Welcome to America!

ROTFLMFAO!!!

Hit me up in Vegas, bro - time we meet face to face!!!

TheMob · 01-02-2005, 01:39 AM

hmm, how about some tissues?

01-01-2005, 11:55 PM	#1
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	Essentials to pack for vegas things to pack for a porn convention laptop and cords cell phone cell phone charger business cards watch tooth brush brush colone deodorant digital camera digital camera charger breifs, socks, shirts, and pants - 2 for each day jacket extra shoes wallet - cash, credit cards, id passport flight ittenary anything else? __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

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newbreed Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ThatOneProgram.com Posts: 9,898	also I would print a master schedule for all the events you plan to attend __________________ Want to promote SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! \| Want to buy SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! Yeah, yeah, you know, That One Program! \| Want to trade links with StompBunny.com? Loryn ‎(3:16 PM): I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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newbreed Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ThatOneProgram.com Posts: 9,898	and for fuck's sake, can I get one of your business cards this year finally? Arika has one, and I have felt left out for months... __________________ Want to promote SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! \| Want to buy SUCCUBUS? Click HERE!!!! Yeah, yeah, you know, That One Program! \| Want to trade links with StompBunny.com? Loryn ‎(3:16 PM): I love it, just as long as we keep the bedroom door closed from all ears then we can have throw down hard core sex that makes us money haha fuck it we can have sex on money never did that before

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Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	phone numbers on paper in case you lose your phone dialup number for internet access in case hotel service doesn't work book notepad and pen deck of cards tylenol and vitamins to keep healthy __________________ email: [email protected]

01-02-2005, 12:01 AM	#13
modF Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,888	With all of the trouble in the baggage claim in the past week or so, I'm going to have a change of clothes in my travel bag/laptop just to be on the safe side. Also, I keep a little tote of shoe polish in my luggage. __________________ I do things skype:themodF

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SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	things to pack for a porn convention laptop and cords cell phone essential phone numbers on paper cell phone charger business cards watch tooth brush and toothpaste floss razor ( blades or electric) tylenol/asprin and vitamins to keep healthy brush colone mouthwash deodorant digital camera digital camera charger breifs, socks, shirts, and pants - 2 for each day jacket extra shoes wallet - cash, credit cards, id passport flight ittenary convention schedule anything else? __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

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webgurl Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clouds with Carebears Posts: 7,954	I don't like the generic stuff hotels provide for the shampoo/conditioner and bodywash i bring my own .. sleazy did u print out your hotel and Internext pass confirm # ?

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J$tyle$ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 11,500	Back-up cell phone from a different carrier than your main cell I never go to a convention without 2 cell phones. (or anywhere else for that matter) LOL ... and don't forget your own favorite soap. I hate that hotel crap!

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chase Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 6,019	This is my first show, so I'm going on common sense here, not experience planner/pda-with lunch or breakfast with me scheduled in it, of course ;) visene (lotsa smoke at parties makes my eyes hurt) good book for the flight blank cd-r's to burn pic cd's as you go tylenol lotion (dry air makes your skin dry out) chapstick (dry air again) __________________ Need Hosting? Reality Check Network services me purrrfectly!

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Phil21 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ICQ: 25285313 Posts: 993	It's vegas.. Dry as hell for those not used to it - carmex or your favorite equivilent is a must. Cash? I like to bring enough for a day or two "just in case" you lose wallet/etc. (obviously keep seperate from wallet) Shoe inserts for walking/standing - anyone that has been to more than 1 or 2 of these things, knows your feet hurt like a motherfucker after standing/walking 18 hours a day for days on end - especially in shoes you generally do not wear every day. -Phil __________________ Quality affordable hosting.

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Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	I already said 'pen', silly. Yes, I always bring a little pack of those baby wipes. Ok, they're not baby wipes. They're called "Fresh Ups", but if it looks like a duck and smells like a duck... I don't use them for toilet paper, but they're nice after you've been shaking hands and touching godknowswhat in the casino all day. Barring that, some Purel hand sanitizer is good. __________________ email: [email protected]

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Greg Jacobson Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 812	On the way from the airport to your hotel have the driver stop at a mini-mart and pick up several gallons of bottled water unless you want to drink tap water. Someone else posted about lotion. It is needed while in Vegas in a bad way. Plus you can use it for lube if needed.

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01-02-2005, 01:36 AM	#48
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Cocaine seems to be pretty popular. Xanax and Vicoden are probably winners as well. Ya can't forget to pack those convention necessities. Also remember to keep the marijuana tucked behind your socks in your dress shoes in your carry on bag for easy scanner evasion and transporting. You probably shouldn't pack the cocaine in the carry on bag and instead you should Fed Ex it to Las Vegas in advance. There are dogs at the airport looking for people like you. Customs come down hard on those kinds of things but you can always have it waiting for you on arrival. Of course you need to do several rails as soon as you get in your hotel room and throw a television out of the window to get motivated to do business with your fellow webmasters. Nothing says, "I'm here to do business" more than slinging something past people's heads from the 27th floor. If the TV is nailed down, a bottle of beer or alarm clock will work just fine. Note If you really want people to notice do something different like tossing the ironing board out of the window and let it glide into the pool. This is Vegas after all, so please try to make it different and more exciting than the Hollywood expo. The advance shipping method also works for your gun as most of us Americans already know. When you people from other countries walk past the front desk and you see a standard Fed Ex or other postal box behind the counter you can rest assured that it is a fellow webmaster's 9mm or .38 caliber gun that has been shipped in advance and is just waiting to be picked up. Don't forget Las Vegas is the wild west so 1 out of every 4 people you pass has a gun in his pocket. You know how we love guns over here! Welcome to America! __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

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TheMob Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: 2006 Posts: 8,584	hmm, how about some tissues?