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Old 01-01-2005, 01:51 PM   #1
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mpeg or wmv for tgp movie galleries ??

what do you prefer to use on your tgp movie galleries? bandwidthwise, convertionwise, etc.. whats the format to go with and why?

this would help alot, than you and happy new year.
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Old 01-01-2005, 02:58 PM   #2
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Old 01-01-2005, 03:00 PM   #3
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Old 01-01-2005, 03:11 PM   #4
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mpeg is the way to go
most mpgs require mpeg.. but I'd prefer wmv as the guy who has to pay the BW bill ;)
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Old 01-01-2005, 03:54 PM   #5
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Old 01-01-2005, 04:30 PM   #6
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most mpgs require mpeg.. but I'd prefer wmv as the guy who has to pay the BW bill ;)
Hint: WMV = WINDOWS Media Video
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Old 01-01-2005, 04:33 PM   #7
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Old 01-01-2005, 04:42 PM   #8
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do you guys see a difference in sales when using wmv vs mpeg on galleries?
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Old 01-01-2005, 04:44 PM   #9
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i use wmv on all my galleries i make
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Old 01-01-2005, 05:21 PM   #10
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MPEG's are the smart way to go.

Think about it.....we all bust our asses to make more money each month. Why would you use a format that 10 to 15% of the computers out there can't see.

Mac users are a small percent of the overall granted, but why limit your sales options.

Ask yourself this simple question. "Would you like to increase your sales potential by 10 to 15 percent?"

If your worried about the bandwidth bill you've got other problems besides what format of movies to use.
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Old 01-01-2005, 05:22 PM   #11
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MPEG's are the smart way to go.

Think about it.....we all bust our asses to make more money each month. Why would you use a format that 10 to 15% of the computers out there can't see.

Mac users are a small percent of the overall granted, but why limit your sales options.

Ask yourself this simple question. "Would you like to increase your sales potential by 10 to 15 percent?"

If your worried about the bandwidth bill you've got other problems besides what format of movies to use.

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Old 01-01-2005, 05:28 PM   #12
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MPEG's are the smart way to go.

Think about it.....we all bust our asses to make more money each month. Why would you use a format that 10 to 15% of the computers out there can't see.

Mac users are a small percent of the overall granted, but why limit your sales options.

Ask yourself this simple question. "Would you like to increase your sales potential by 10 to 15 percent?"

If your worried about the bandwidth bill you've got other problems besides what format of movies to use.
you would think if that is true, more reality paysite tours would have have mpeg trialers instead of wmv
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Old 01-01-2005, 07:08 PM   #13
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we don't really do movie galleries, but we only do wmv on my site.
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Old 01-01-2005, 07:13 PM   #14
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you would think if that is true, more reality paysite tours would have have mpeg trialers instead of wmv
Now this is true. Most most Macs can in fact see WMV. I think the real number is closer to 1% of the users can't see certain versions of Windows Media like codecs above WM7. Those people use really old computers and probably aren't going to buy shit anyway. And they are huge pains in the ass.

I don't understand why all movie galleries aren't done in WM. Instead of pushing out 1.5mb gals we could all have 500kb galleries which would actually improve the productivity of MGP's since surfers can download, watch and either buy or get back to clicking more links on the MGP a lot faster than when they try to download a few 1.5mb vids.

Plus, as Bigdog says, it would save us a shitload in BW costs.
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Old 01-01-2005, 07:13 PM   #15
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you would think if that is true, more reality paysite tours would have have mpeg trialers instead of wmv
there is another reason why streaming trailers are WMV
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Old 01-01-2005, 07:18 PM   #16
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very well put, oliver klozov.
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Old 01-01-2005, 07:20 PM   #17
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there is another reason why streaming trailers are WMV
wmw loads and then play, mpeg plays while it loads, it dont look that cool
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there is another reason why streaming trailers are WMV
you could also make both .mov and .wmv?
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Old 01-01-2005, 07:25 PM   #19
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wmw loads and then play, mpeg plays while it loads, it dont look that cool
It's just as easy to set your buffer levels in WMV's to make them play after they have loaded only 1-20% of the video. Any way you slice it it's a much better option than mpeg's or mov's
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Old 01-01-2005, 07:32 PM   #20
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It's just as easy to set your buffer levels in WMV's to make them play after they have loaded only 1-20% of the video. Any way you slice it it's a much better option than mpeg's or mov's
that was what I told, WMV is the best format for streaming trailers
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10 - 15% cant view wmvs? That's BULLSHIT
10-15% of web users are not on Macs, and Mac users can install the WM player anyways.

I'd say 1% maybe 2% at the most have issues with wmv. There will be issues with any format. believe it.

With wmv format you can deliver the same quality as an mpeg in almost half the file size, and when your dealing with promo trailers that is important not only for B/W usage on your end but for the user experience on the consumer end as they can load and play the clips faster. Especially for the slower broadband users that might have a cheap shitty dsl or isdn line. Dialup users it makes an even larger impact as it dramatically reduces their download time to view the same length and quality clip in wmv versus mpeg.

Why would you want to make all those people (98%) download all that extra data in mpeg format just because 1 or 2% of the people have issues with wmv. That doesn't make sense.

and just for the record all my sites videos are in wmv format and I have been encoding this way for a very long time. I have over 250 hours of wmvs and my best site converts less than 1:100 most every day with wmv promo videos on the tour and on the FHG's.

WMV's are fine.
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sounds like wmv is the way to go...
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Old 01-02-2005, 01:36 AM   #23
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MPEG's are the smart way to go.

Think about it.....we all bust our asses to make more money each month. Why would you use a format that 10 to 15% of the computers out there can't see.

Mac users are a small percent of the overall granted, but why limit your sales options.

Ask yourself this simple question. "Would you like to increase your sales potential by 10 to 15 percent?"

If your worried about the bandwidth bill you've got other problems besides what format of movies to use.
I think most everybody that posted below proved your post was BS. It may have been true a few years ago... but not now.
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Old 01-02-2005, 01:39 AM   #24
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I think MPGs at about 5 mb each should be the norm and there should be 6 of them on every gallery. I'd like to see at least a 100mb traffic spike on every gallery I submit to The Hun. Maybe even 150mb! That would be cool.

Not.

C'mon fellas, it's starting to not make a lot of sense. WMV should be the norm so those galleries stay under 1mb.
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Old 01-02-2005, 02:36 AM   #26
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i think the real question is "what do TGP/MGP owners prefer?" after all, they're the one's listing your galleries! i remember when i was doing movie galleries like a year ago... TGP/MGP owners would have a hissyfit if you didn't submit mpg. a lot of the old ass scripts didn't know what a wmv was! some TGP/MGP owners are still behind in the times. things might have changed though. what are experienced movie submitters seeing as the best way to get listed?
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10 - 15% cant view wmvs? That's BULLSHIT
10-15% of web users are not on Macs, and Mac users can install the WM player anyways.

I'd say 1% maybe 2% at the most have issues with wmv. There will be issues with any format. believe it.

With wmv format you can deliver the same quality as an mpeg in almost half the file size, and when your dealing with promo trailers that is important not only for B/W usage on your end but for the user experience on the consumer end as they can load and play the clips faster. Especially for the slower broadband users that might have a cheap shitty dsl or isdn line. Dialup users it makes an even larger impact as it dramatically reduces their download time to view the same length and quality clip in wmv versus mpeg.

Why would you want to make all those people (98%) download all that extra data in mpeg format just because 1 or 2% of the people have issues with wmv. That doesn't make sense.

and just for the record all my sites videos are in wmv format and I have been encoding this way for a very long time. I have over 250 hours of wmvs and my best site converts less than 1:100 most every day with wmv promo videos on the tour and on the FHG's.

WMV's are fine.

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We do encoding work every day and we prefer and recommend to our customers for Internet WMV. Why?

a) Better quality than MPEG-1 at lower bitrates
b) Smoother streaming
c) Reduced file size
d) Mac users who surf for porn, most likely have the media player installed already.

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a) Better quality than MPEG-1 at lower bitrates
its a real pain to watch long wmv movies, it takes ages when you want to forward and the quality is worse than MPEG-1, not much, but it is. I prefer MPEG-1 all the time, because its more comfortable to watch.
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WMV.
Three reasons
1) Much better codec. Mpeg used to be great, but it's days are over. WMV is more 'standard' than using 3ivx or other codecs
2) Much smaller size cf. Mpeg
3) DRM for member's areas

- oh, and the post about macs is completely incorrent. There's a WMV player for macs released by Microsoft itself.
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WMV.
Three reasons
1) Much better codec. Mpeg used to be great, but it's days are over. WMV is
we are talking about MPEG-1, you dont need any special codecs to play it, that is great about it
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