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Old 12-26-2004, 05:18 AM   #51
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Old 12-26-2004, 03:34 PM   #52
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Old 12-26-2004, 03:45 PM   #53
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Old 12-26-2004, 04:41 PM   #54
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Old 12-26-2004, 04:45 PM   #55
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I believe this guy... Donnie's story didnt quite make sense when he had to fly out to have his sites back online, that is definitely not an network issue, I'am guessing that's a lawsuit issue.

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vegasplaya so ifriends shaves based on how much cam time your free signups buy? also what proof do you have of this?
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Old 12-26-2004, 04:54 PM   #57
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I believe this guy... Donnie's story didnt quite make sense when he had to fly out to have his sites back online, that is definitely not an network issue, I'am guessing that's a lawsuit issue.

I also thought his story sounds like a bunch of bull and a big crock of poop. Ther is definitely another side to this story. Hoe does all of this affect his Reflectednet hosting? are they stable? does he still own it or did that also go to his dad? or someone else? many questions to be uncovered

Vegas-Playa can you shed a bit of light on these things? I think many of us feel you are speaking the truth and know what you are talking about here.
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Old 12-26-2004, 04:56 PM   #58
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As far as a 35% shave is concerned -- It?s funny that this person assumes to know so much about me and my business yet can?t substantiate such a key part of their claims with so much as a screenshot or any form of proof whatsoever. We do not shave sign ups at all. If we shaved and produced lousy ratios why would a program such as ARS have our cam site up as one of the two major sites promoted on their exits across their entire program?
you almost had me believing you.... untill you started bs about ars!
I have proof ars doesn't shave, and none that you don't so my traffic will keep on going to ARS.
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vegasplaya so ifriends shaves based on how much cam time your free signups buy? also what proof do you have of this?
I can't wait to get paid

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you almost had me believing you.... untill you started bs about ars!
I have proof ars doesn't shave, and none that you don't so my traffic will keep on going to ARS.
did you read his post correctly? He didnt say anything bad about ARS...
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Old 12-26-2004, 05:07 PM   #62
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you almost had me believing you.... untill you started bs about ars!
I have proof ars doesn't shave, and none that you don't so my traffic will keep on going to ARS.
Did you even read what you quoted?

He asked why ARS promote his site on their exits if he shaved and had lousy ratios.
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Old 12-26-2004, 05:09 PM   #63
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Hey guys, i'm back from vaca.. and catching up on icqs..

hope everyone had a good christmas !!

In response to this Vegas fucktard: Firstly LOL how bitter can one ex-employee be.. fuck man, surely this isn't the first time you've been fired??
You are a pissed off druggie idiot who fucked up one too many times (IMHO donnie should have fired him a LONG time ago).

You think you're so smart by using some facts and then exaggerating to make everything sound bad.

The names of his bank accounts and other information are nobodys business. The program is up, people are being paid (like always) ..

there is NO drama here. Look at the facts: me, sykkboy, stumpy all people who have worked with donnie for years stand by him and can tell you all that he ALWAYS pays EVERYBODY.

This anonymous fucking idiot is causing shit just for fun. We would sue this fucking loser, but he has no money lol so whats the point?

Plus we feel sorry for him cause if you saw this guy you would too.

Donnie is not even reading gfy today, so if you want a response from him you're wasting your time, hes responded with his number, call it if you have questions.

Now that i'm back to work (and happy about it, i love my job) .. i'm here if anybody has any questions. Hit me up Nigs See ya in Vegas

Geez... because of all the remarks I did want to go ahead and answer about the network problem too.. I guess people are bored enough to want to know the details of a technical problem that was yesterday's news.. we had a Juniper M5 router and it fucking broke two days before Christmas.. it was very hard to track down anything that could be used for a replacement... we couldn't use a simple PC router because we have too much traffic... I'd like to see you fucking try to get anything done with fortune 500 companies a couple of days before Christmas where everyone is just wanting to do as little work as possible gearing up for the holiday.. I can't believe I have to explain this shit because some idiot wants to make shit up and embellish the truth.. oh well I guess that's what you can get away with on GFY..
Anyway, just so you know Marco (and your pals), we're all laughing at you because you're still bitter and twisted... it seems by now you would have wiped your tears and gotten over it... this is getting boring.... LOL
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Old 12-26-2004, 05:11 PM   #64
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how does one get customer id numbers for clickcash?

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Old 12-26-2004, 05:12 PM   #65
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Did you even read what you quoted?

He asked why ARS promote his site on their exits if he shaved and had lousy ratios.
never mind me... just had a discussion with my partner.... came to gfy started reading and thinking bout some other things at the same time... I was only paying attenion to negative words I guess.

My appologies and to compensate I'll send some traffic :wink
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I wont say much more on the subject, but disgruntled ex-employees who make false statements about a company deserve to get sued and tackled to the ground. By you guys saying ignore the fucktard, makes things look offbalanced and suspicious.
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Old 12-26-2004, 05:22 PM   #67
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Old 12-26-2004, 05:27 PM   #68
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what is 'manual spamming'?
Based on Vegas Dude's post, S4C allegedly has a shit load of computers set up and they pay people to impersonate cam models in chat rooms to get surfers to sign up.

I'm assuming that the fake model would then ask the surfer for his ID number after he signed up.

I'm not saying any of this is true, I'm just saying this is my understanding based on Vegas Dude's allegations.
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Old 12-26-2004, 05:29 PM   #69
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You should be a lawyer! haha, this is quality drama.. Continue.

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man you are more stupid than you look I guess.. we went down Tuesday afternoon... Donnie went to Chicago to try to make sure the router got up.. he had to really persuade people to work overtime to try to fix the issue... man you are fucking dumb.. it was an issue with the router and with bad media converters.. greybar was closed so it was hard to find media converters too... I don't see why you are going on about this bullshit anyway.. as I said before, everyone has been paid and you have no proof s4c has ever shaved.. if we really had to clear our servers out don't you think we would have made a smooth transition? anyone with half a brain would see that -- and plus it doesn't take 2 days to clear out servers anyway... and the sites are still up so what the fuck would we have to clear out idiot?
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You should be a lawyer! haha, this is quality drama.. Continue.
what do you mean quality drama? Wouldn't drama comprise of proof of allegations.. where are all the affiliates coming forward saying they didn't get paid? where are the shaving screenshots? i don't see any drama..
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Based on Vegas Dude's post, S4C allegedly has a shit load of computers set up and they pay people to impersonate cam models in chat rooms to get surfers to sign up.

I'm assuming that the fake model would then ask the surfer for his ID number after he signed up.

I'm not saying any of this is true, I'm just saying this is my understanding based on Vegas Dude's allegations.

I am a pretty cam model

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man you are more stupid than you look I guess.. we went down Tuesday afternoon... Donnie went to Chicago to try to make sure the router got up.. he had to really persuade people to work overtime to try to fix the issue... man you are fucking dumb.. it was an issue with the router and with bad media converters.. greybar was closed so it was hard to find media converters too... I don't see why you are going on about this bullshit anyway.. as I said before, everyone has been paid and you have no proof s4c has ever shaved.. if we really had to clear our servers out don't you think we would have made a smooth transition? anyone with half a brain would see that -- and plus it doesn't take 2 days to clear out servers anyway... and the sites are still up so what the fuck would we have to clear out idiot?
So its Tuesday afternoon now? Thought you just said 2 days before Christmas. That would make it Thursday wouldnt it? Woops. If you're going to continue lying, you need to keep your stories consistent.
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God you are annyoing... ok...

1) AOL -- weren't sued by AOL.. subpeona'd for information relating to certain emailing affiliates. Please show me proof to the contrary
2) Manual spam offices -- what's your point? we have offices with sales people selling memberships to our sites.
3) Reflected -- there are NDA's in place. Donnie hasn't said anything about Reflected in months, though.

The reason the above hasn't been "refuted" is because -- what the fuck is wrong with any of the above? when is it a crime to get subpeona'd or getting sales out of a fucking sales office? what the fuck man? are you a little girl?
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So its Tuesday afternoon now? Thought you just said 2 days before Christmas. That would make it Thursday wouldnt it? Woops. If you're going to continue lying, you need to keep your stories consistent.
man you're getting desperate.. on Friday he said 'a little over 48 hours' which is pretty consistent with what he said... you're splitting hairs getting really desperate now...
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hey man i'm trying to hit you up... shoot me an email [email protected] .... post your ICQ here too.. my list isn't loading
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God you are annyoing... ok...

1) AOL -- weren't sued by AOL.. subpeona'd for information relating to certain emailing affiliates. Please show me proof to the contrary
2) Manual spam offices -- what's your point? we have offices with sales people selling memberships to our sites.
3) Reflected -- there are NDA's in place. Donnie hasn't said anything about Reflected in months, though.

The reason the above hasn't been "refuted" is because -- what the fuck is wrong with any of the above? when is it a crime to get subpeona'd or getting sales out of a fucking sales office? what the fuck man? are you a little girl?
Sounds good to me

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http://www.lexisnexis.com/ go do a search and see if there is are any judgements or any pending litigation you idiot.. but you probably can't afford to do the search


What is the difference between this and phone sex?



Reflected has not had downtime in months and continues to grow exponentially. The infrastructure behind it is allowing for increased growth. Reflected customers continue to give good feedback so once again what is your fucking point?


I was making fun of you before but now I'm feeling sorry for you... you are a very vindictive person and it's pretty sad
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Reflected has not had downtime in months and continues to grow exponentially. The infrastructure behind it is allowing for increased growth. Reflected customers continue to give good feedback so once again what is your fucking point?
Didn't you just say you had a Juniper go bad? Also, your comment about dealing with fortune 500's and getting no where - Cisco always has parts in our hands within 4 hours when something goes wrong, no matter what time of year it is. It's called a service contract.
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Didn't you just say you had a Juniper go bad? Also, your comment about dealing with fortune 500's and getting no where - Cisco always has parts in our hands within 4 hours when something goes wrong, no matter what time of year it is. It's called a service contract.
we didn't buy a new juniper... they don't typically offer support for aftermarket equipment
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http://www.lexisnexis.com/ go do a search and see if there is are any judgements or any pending litigation you idiot.. but you probably can't afford to do the search



What is the difference between this and phone sex?
This LexisNexis site is great

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shit happens...glad you guys are back up!

cheers to a great program with some very awesome support! Any thing custom anyone needs these guys are right there to hook you up!

jesus, he gave you his personal number to call him...what else to you need lol

Hope you party with AC, stumpy and Donnie in vegas..!
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we didn't buy a new juniper... they don't typically offer support for aftermarket equipment
Okay, fine - but how does a juniper going down only affect 1 client (S4C) and not the rest of Reflected....
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Okay, fine - but how does a juniper going down only affect 1 client (S4C) and not the rest of Reflected....
Signup4cash is not on Reflected's network.. it is hosted completely separately on its own network..

Reflected has two Juniper M20's (redundant for situations like this). Signup4cash is a completely separate affair. The two are separate entities with absolutely nothing to do with one another.
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Signup4cash is not on Reflected's network.. it is hosted completely separately on its own network..

Reflected has two Juniper M20's (redundant for situations like this). Signup4cash is a completely separate affair. The two are separate entities with absolutely nothing to do with one another.
Gotcha - I thought they were on the same network, my bad. Time to invest in real routing hardware for S4C then.
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Gotcha - I thought they were on the same network, my bad. Time to invest in real routing hardware for S4C then.
indeed we will be fully redundant in a week or so
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You're right, I randomly hide all my assets for no apparent reason. My bad.
You haven't posted a single proof so far. Do the very simple and provide a link to the AOL lawsuit.
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Old 12-26-2004, 08:18 PM   #92
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Old 12-26-2004, 08:52 PM   #93
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You haven't posted a single proof so far. Do the very simple and provide a link to the AOL lawsuit.
Not taking sides here. Just following the thread.

AOL sues a lot and rarely does the media publish every single case. Once the judgment is given, it depends if the courthouse reports it to all credit bureaus. It is public record but not all courthouses are up-to-date with their websites.

Even if he/she went to the courthouse and paid for copies, he/she would have to scan the documents and someone could say 'photochopped'.
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Old 12-26-2004, 09:50 PM   #94
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Not taking sides here. Just following the thread.

AOL sues a lot and rarely does the media publish every single case. Once the judgment is given, it depends if the courthouse reports it to all credit bureaus. It is public record but not all courthouses are up-to-date with their websites.

Even if he/she went to the courthouse and paid for copies, he/she would have to scan the documents and someone could say 'photochopped'.
I can't prove anything so I will be quiet now.

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This thread keeps getting more interesting.
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Old 12-26-2004, 09:55 PM   #96
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So what exactly was your position there? What did you do?
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Old 12-26-2004, 10:11 PM   #97
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well aside from everything else i am glad to hear you are ok, thought we lost you there for a sec and wish aaron would resurface, miss that guy
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Old 12-26-2004, 11:47 PM   #98
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Based on Vegas Dude's post, S4C allegedly has a shit load of computers set up and they pay people to impersonate cam models in chat rooms to get surfers to sign up.

I'm assuming that the fake model would then ask the surfer for his ID number after he signed up.

I'm not saying any of this is true, I'm just saying this is my understanding based on Vegas Dude's allegations.

Well if that is what he is saying he is CRAZY! I owned and opperated a webcam house. One of the things i had my models do was talk to guys in chat rooms. All lot of people would say "Ok I will signup" but half of them were full of shit, if the girls pressed them after a while they would come clean... some would lie for a long time and then finally admit they didn't even have a credit card.

So if "manual spam" is real people hustling signups in chat rooms, then you are a fool if you believe that everyone that says they are signing up actually did, you are spaming them and in most cases they are fucking you.

There is now way you can get ifriends ids even if you did collect them from the submit form, the credit card page is https on their server, and how would you confirm if the person didn't get declined and actually got accepted.

lol@at asking people you just spammed to be honest and believing them.
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Old 12-27-2004, 04:34 AM   #99
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you are spaming them and in most cases they are fucking you.
oh, those bastards, they are fucking the guys who are spamming them
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