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European Lee · 12-14-2004, 05:49 PM

http://www.asacp.org

Report CP you fuckers

Regards,

Lee

Chris · 12-14-2004, 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by Aly_AVN
Actually Steve... (here we go!!) ... ASACP is FAR from useless. ASACP has been directly involved in the arrest and prosecution of pedophiles. You may not LIKE that they appear to have an issue with you, and that may NOT be FAIR... But DO NOT jump to the conclusion that ASACP is useless simply because they don't kike YOU... and CERTAINLY DO NOT post that as fact in a public forum... when the biggest thing you're doing is PREVENTING the protection of children.

You may have a valid fight... so fight it.. but watch how you go about doing that. ASACP DOES WORK.

i have reported legitiment child porn to them
the kids ont he site had to been atleast younger than 10
doing sexual things and i was told it was not child porn

and then i tried to sponsor asacp and i was told no because i am not an porn company. I am involved with pills so my money is not welcome

SleazyDream · 12-14-2004, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by Aly_AVN
Please put aside whatever impression Gary Kremen may have given of ASACP. He's off the board now.

ASACP board seats are NOT open to the highest bidder!

I, for one, didn't pay to be a member of that board. I did however contribute in other ways. It would be a little odd to have someone on the board if they didn't contribute in some way to the organization... Most people with money would rather contribute in that way as far as I can tell.

are you saying python didn't contribute to the asacp?

Aly · 12-14-2004, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by European Lee
http://www.asacp.org

Report CP you fuckers

Regards,

Lee

Thanks! (you bastard)

Aly · 12-14-2004, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
are you saying python didn't contribute to the asacp?

Actually, DollarMachine did, but seperately, and after I joined the board. I joined as 'Aly' not 'Alyfrompython'.

European Lee · 12-14-2004, 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by Aly_AVN
Thanks! (you bastard)

Thas okay slut

Even though i think some of the political games ASACP members have started playing in the last couple of years are BS i still fully support the job the organization is doing for the industry by way of getting rid of CP

Regards,

Lee

Aly · 12-14-2004, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by European Lee
Thas okay slut

Even though i think some of the political games ASACP members have started playing in the last couple of years are BS i still fully support the job the organization is doing for the industry by way of getting rid of CP

Regards,

Lee

I completely agree.

European Lee · 12-14-2004, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by Aly_AVN
I completely agree.

In that case.. show us yer titties

On a serious note though, what should we put you down for in Vegas as part of the Gay Webmaster Bash Dinner, Luncheon or, Breakfast?

Regards,

Lee

tony286 · 12-14-2004, 06:04 PM

First Aly congrats on AVN I know you will do greats things there.

Secondly the only people that want .xxx are the big players not because they care about kids its because they figure it will push out the little guy but they dont think . A writing campaign got Bill Maher off the air at ABC. You dont think a christian right letter campaign to AOL ,EarthLink to block the .xxx wont happen. Your kidding me right. lol Then some right wing senator seeking reelection pushes for a law to block .xxx in the USA and the its not fair rule doesnt work for these things. Also if you think porn buyers will stand up for us thats funny also They are having senate hearing on porn addiction , why make it easy for them to fuck with us? They are not going to respect us no matter how many times we say we care about kids and then put models in pigtails with stuff toys and lolipops.

Aly · 12-14-2004, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
First Aly congrats on AVN I know you will do greats things there. Secondly the only people that want .xxx are the big players not because they care about kids its because they figure it will push out the little guy but they dont think . A writing campaign got Bill Maher off the air at ABC. You dont think a christian right letter campaign to AOL ,EarthLink to block the .xxx wont happen. Your kidding me right. lol Then some right wing senator seeking reelection pushes for a law to block .xxx in the USA and the its not fair rule doesnt work for these things. Also if you think porn buyers will stand up for us thats funny also They are having senate hearing on porn addiction , why make it easy for them to fuck with us? They are not going to respect us no matter how many times we say we care about kids and then put models in pigtails with stuff toys and lolipops.

Thanks Tony. I'm not saying I disagree with you about any of that, I'm just saying that being on one side or another of that particular issue surely doesn't make ASACP lose all credibility.

tony286 · 12-14-2004, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by Aly_AVN
Thanks Tony. I'm not saying I disagree with you about any of that, I'm just saying that being on one side or another of that particular issue surely doesn't make ASACP lose all credibility.

I can agree on that

Aly · 12-14-2004, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by European Lee
In that case.. show us yer titties

On a serious note though, what should we put you down for in Vegas as part of the Gay Webmaster Bash Dinner, Luncheon or, Breakfast?

Regards,

Lee

Breakfast, darling... Anyone who's eating breakfast at Internext is serious in my books!

European Lee · 12-14-2004, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by Aly_AVN
Breakfast, darling... Anyone who's eating breakfast at Internext is serious in my books!

You got it sweetheart

Now, about those tittie pics

Regards,

Lee

Black Dog · 12-14-2004, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by Aly_AVN
Actually Steve... (here we go!!) ... ASACP is FAR from useless. ASACP has been directly involved in the arrest and prosecution of pedophiles. You may not LIKE that they appear to have an issue with you, and that may NOT be FAIR... But DO NOT jump to the conclusion that ASACP is useless simply because they don't kike YOU... and CERTAINLY DO NOT post that as fact in a public forum... when the biggest thing you're doing is PREVENTING the protection of children.

You may have a valid fight... so fight it.. but watch how you go about doing that. ASACP DOES WORK.

Whatever problems it may have, it is hard to find fault with an organization dedicated to eliminating child pornography. That's why I will always support ASACP. And if somebody (like Steve Lightspeed) would like to start another organization with the same goals, I will probably support them too. But of course it is best if we all work together.

B

Kimmykim · 12-14-2004, 06:31 PM

Too bad everyone's using my herding cats phrase like dollar bills at a strip club, since it would be most appropriate in this case.

But I'll repeat another of my worn out little bon mots , which goes like this...

Q. Eleven webmasters are standing in the lobby of the Venetian during Internext, an hour after they agreed to meet. Are they still standing there because they can't figure out where to go for dinner, or because they're still waiting on one more latester to join them so they can go?

A. Both.

Aly · 12-14-2004, 06:33 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Too bad everyone's using my herding cats phrase like dollar bills at a strip club, since it would be most appropriate in this case.

But I'll repeat another of my worn out little bon mots , which goes like this...

Q. Eleven webmasters are standing in the lobby of the Venetian during Internext, an hour after they agreed to meet. Are they still standing there because they can't figure out where to go for dinner, or because they're still waiting on one more latester to join them so they can go?

A. Both.

So true!

Kimmykim · 12-14-2004, 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by Aly_AVN
So true!

Though I guess standing around for 2 hours might be better than sitting through 4 at an ass and brain numbing face feeding ;)

PerfectionGirls · 12-14-2004, 06:36 PM

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I think Gary made the right decision to step down. That Lightspeed fiasco certainly did not put him in a positive light.

Agreed!

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Whatever problems it may have, it is hard to find fault with an organization dedicated to eliminating child pornography. That's why I will always support ASACP. And if somebody (like Steve Lightspeed) would like to start another organization with the same goals, I will probably support them too. But of course it is best if we all work together.

Agreed!

Rinaldo · 12-14-2004, 07:09 PM

ALY for the record I didn't mean to imply that you had stepped down because of this incident... I knew about your resignation long ago... just to make more drama I posted that.

Much love girl

RInaldo

Probono · 12-14-2004, 08:34 PM

I am not on the Board, not a big player but a long term supporter of ASACP not because they are perfect, no organization is, but because they are trying to do the right thing.

We pay annual dues and feel it is a trivial investment in the industry as a whole.

Aly I confess to worshipping you, I consider Joan an asset to the industry and we will continue to support ASACP.

Oh and yes if I was needed and could offer something of value I would join the board of ASACP.

Screaming · 12-15-2004, 09:27 PM

well it said it would not effect the group themselves so i would think it would be biz as usual

pornguy · 12-15-2004, 09:40 PM

I think that somehow this all comes down to a money thing. When will the audits start to fly?

RawAlex · 12-15-2004, 10:13 PM

Okay, here goes a few random thoughts on the various parts of this thread (a rare decently thoughtful thread for GFY, I might add).

First off, Gary put himself in an untenable position, and like all "political" offices, it isn't impropreity, just the appearance thereof that is enough to cost someone their position. For a board member and leader of ASACP to label legal porn as CP in any manner, even in passing, lowers the value of the organization for everyone. Gary's personal opinions of lightspeed and their models is totally Gary's issue. Gary has, IMHO, shown some very poor judgement in this matter.

As for Aly, well, she isn't in any way involved in this, ASACP rules forbid there from being more than one person per oganization, and AVN already is represented. Her stepping down only occured at the same meeting as a matter of record, not as a matter of Gary's situation.

Now, as for ASACP in general. It's a noble idea, with noble goals.

That being said, ASACP should have no position on anything outside of CP. The .XXX discussion has nothing to do with CP, and as such, the organization should have stayed out of it. I feel that there is some major money using the ASACP as a front to voice their personal opinions. .XXX has nothing to do with CP. ASACP, stay out of it.

ASACP should have one goal, one goal only, and that is to report and work to remove CP from the net. Everything else is political reaching and grandstanding, and it takes away from the basic and noble goal of the organization. If you want an organization to promote the adult industry in general, form one. Don't corrupt something that could be so good and so useful.

Alex

infecto · 12-15-2004, 10:33 PM

Fuck it I say. ASACP sucks at what they do, you send them a clear link with child porn on it and they will tell you there is no problems with it because they are too lazy to click a link. Could be just me but I don't think its worth balls.

sherie · 12-15-2004, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
i disagree.

being on the board shows that person's business operates under acceptable practices to the asacp and some sort of financial commitment to the fight against child pornography should be a part of most every responsible adult online business.

"Acceptable practices" according to whom? Who sets the guidelines of what is and what isn't acceptable? You surely aren't saying that he is not responsible and does not have a responsible adult online business? I don't want to put words in your mouth but with this statement this is how I read it. Because we all know that he's been wanting and trying to donate money to ASACP for years but has been denied.

On a side note*

Things are obviously going to spiral out of control, however, when there is a commitee of your peers, shit like this should not happen. If there is a hidden agenda then SHAME on whomever they are!! There'a TON of sick shit in this industry and people tolerate it to a certain degree (most degrees if they are making money from it and fuck you (whoever you are) if you say that you don't!

However, when you are defending the rights of children, mistakes conscious or not like this should never happen. We all know that there has been issues with LS and ASACP forever, but who is anyone to judge and turn away legit funds for a legit program for a legit cause if it is just that "legit"? I would like to know what set of guidelines they are going by and who sets them! I have always been curious, but now I would like an answer, a solid one.

One of the best lines that I read this evening came from Brad/Phoenix "Power corrupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely." It makes me sick to my stomach to think that someone/people/commitee/whomever, would use this (cp)fight in such a reprehensible manner (if indeed someone (or persons) personal agenda got in the way of the true fight)!

This is getting tiring, I just had to speak my mind about this whole thing, my concern is that ASACP should be an unbiased organization! And that it continues to fight for children.

12-14-2004, 05:49 PM	#51
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12-15-2004, 09:27 PM	#71
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12-15-2004, 09:40 PM	#72
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12-14-2004, 06:04 PM	#59
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	First Aly congrats on AVN I know you will do greats things there. Secondly the only people that want .xxx are the big players not because they care about kids its because they figure it will push out the little guy but they dont think . A writing campaign got Bill Maher off the air at ABC. You dont think a christian right letter campaign to AOL ,EarthLink to block the .xxx wont happen. Your kidding me right. lol Then some right wing senator seeking reelection pushes for a law to block .xxx in the USA and the its not fair rule doesnt work for these things. Also if you think porn buyers will stand up for us thats funny also They are having senate hearing on porn addiction , why make it easy for them to fuck with us? They are not going to respect us no matter how many times we say we care about kids and then put models in pigtails with stuff toys and lolipops.

12-14-2004, 06:31 PM	#65
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Too bad everyone's using my herding cats phrase like dollar bills at a strip club, since it would be most appropriate in this case. But I'll repeat another of my worn out little bon mots , which goes like this... Q. Eleven webmasters are standing in the lobby of the Venetian during Internext, an hour after they agreed to meet. Are they still standing there because they can't figure out where to go for dinner, or because they're still waiting on one more latester to join them so they can go? A. Both.

12-14-2004, 07:09 PM	#69
Rinaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 5,086	ALY for the record I didn't mean to imply that you had stepped down because of this incident... I knew about your resignation long ago... just to make more drama I posted that. Much love girl RInaldo

12-14-2004, 08:34 PM	#70
Probono Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Under the Rainbow Posts: 2,731	I am not on the Board, not a big player but a long term supporter of ASACP not because they are perfect, no organization is, but because they are trying to do the right thing. We pay annual dues and feel it is a trivial investment in the industry as a whole. Aly I confess to worshipping you, I consider Joan an asset to the industry and we will continue to support ASACP. Oh and yes if I was needed and could offer something of value I would join the board of ASACP.

12-15-2004, 10:13 PM	#73
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Okay, here goes a few random thoughts on the various parts of this thread (a rare decently thoughtful thread for GFY, I might add). First off, Gary put himself in an untenable position, and like all "political" offices, it isn't impropreity, just the appearance thereof that is enough to cost someone their position. For a board member and leader of ASACP to label legal porn as CP in any manner, even in passing, lowers the value of the organization for everyone. Gary's personal opinions of lightspeed and their models is totally Gary's issue. Gary has, IMHO, shown some very poor judgement in this matter. As for Aly, well, she isn't in any way involved in this, ASACP rules forbid there from being more than one person per oganization, and AVN already is represented. Her stepping down only occured at the same meeting as a matter of record, not as a matter of Gary's situation. Now, as for ASACP in general. It's a noble idea, with noble goals. That being said, ASACP should have no position on anything outside of CP. The .XXX discussion has nothing to do with CP, and as such, the organization should have stayed out of it. I feel that there is some major money using the ASACP as a front to voice their personal opinions. .XXX has nothing to do with CP. ASACP, stay out of it. ASACP should have one goal, one goal only, and that is to report and work to remove CP from the net. Everything else is political reaching and grandstanding, and it takes away from the basic and noble goal of the organization. If you want an organization to promote the adult industry in general, form one. Don't corrupt something that could be so good and so useful. Alex

12-15-2004, 10:33 PM	#74
infecto Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,697	Fuck it I say. ASACP sucks at what they do, you send them a clear link with child porn on it and they will tell you there is no problems with it because they are too lazy to click a link. Could be just me but I don't think its worth balls.