Cogent Bandwidth Special - 200Megs for $2000 - GoFuckYourself.com

Magg · 12-03-2004, 01:55 AM

Yup, you heard right.

100% non-oversold Cogent bandwidth.

200Megabits of it for only $2000!

This does include a server, please contact me with questions on this promotion.

Toll Free: 1-866-NET-COLO
ICQ: 132497047
AIM: FNAPChris

The bandwidth would be direct from Cogent to whoever bought it.

MrJackMeHoff · 12-03-2004, 02:30 AM

Stick your 200 mb up your ass.. How about that?

Magg · 12-03-2004, 02:51 AM

Im out of KY

fris · 12-03-2004, 05:16 AM

no one wants cogent, its the worst bandwidth ever

SinisterStudios · 12-03-2004, 06:06 AM

I have to say all you people here are fools, we have been using cogent bandwith for years now and it is better than any other providers we use. They have only went down twice in over 3 years and have the great customer service. I guess it also helps that we directly peer to them and thats why our connection are so fast and stable. Just because eveyone say you should hate cogent bandwith doesnt mean you have to listen to them like the sheep you all are.

Magg · 12-03-2004, 07:46 AM

the way it is now Sinister, having cogent in your mix is just as bad as have network downtimes ever 2 minutes.

Thats the way a lot of people see it.

cocky · 12-03-2004, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
no one wants cogent, its the worst bandwidth ever

BRISK · 12-03-2004, 08:49 AM

Foundry NAP is Cogent bandwidth?

Magg · 12-03-2004, 08:54 AM

No, its not, it has nothing to do with our primary network.

Theres lots of people on here who'd buy Cogent and use it for whatever reason. (carelessness) so Im offering this at cost to anyone who wants it.

Not even making a profit off this. $10/Meg lol

coolfuck · 12-03-2004, 09:00 AM

nice offer

BRISK · 12-03-2004, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Magg
No, its not, it has nothing to do with our primary network.

Theres lots of people on here who'd buy Cogent and use it for whatever reason. (carelessness) so Im offering this at cost to anyone who wants it.

Not even making a profit off this. $10/Meg lol

ummm....why are you offering it at that price if you're not going to make any profit?

Magg · 12-03-2004, 09:13 AM

To be nice? Its also not bad to have built up commits with carriers, advantageous in many ways.

(Who knows Level(3) might buy Cogent?

)

moneymaker_ro · 12-03-2004, 09:24 AM

s9ann0 · 12-03-2004, 09:45 AM

I would go for that if I could be arsed to move

kmanrox · 12-03-2004, 09:53 AM

upon doing a lil research, i conclude the following;

foundrynap connectivity:

1 connection to the internet -- ch00pa who is not a tier1 provider -
foundrynap does not have their own network nor do they own their own ips

Any questions?

Magg · 12-03-2004, 09:56 AM

Care to do a little research on:

RCN
Oxeo
Phatservers

See what you find there.

The bandwidth we buy is multihomed, and all Tier1.
We also have a multihomed setup, with our primary bandwidth and a failover to Savvis directly. Savvis IS a Tier1 provider, and we have a direct drop into their network.

All our equipment and staff are our own personelle, we purchase pre-BGPed bandwidth, whats so bad about that?

You cant just go to ARIN and say, "I want some IPs, gimme".

kmanrox · 12-03-2004, 09:59 AM

did you just dog out half the ISP's in this industry?

LoL

BRISK · 12-03-2004, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
upon doing a lil research, i conclude the following;

foundrynap connectivity:

1 connection to the internet -- ch00pa who is not a tier1 provider -
foundrynap does not have their own network nor do they own their own ips

Any questions?

huh? FoundryNAP = ch00pa?

Magg · 12-03-2004, 10:07 AM

No, Brisk, one of our internet providers we purchase bandwidth from is hahahahahaha, among with Savvis they are in a multihomed setup we operate out of the Savvis datacenter at the Harborside Financial Center in New Jersey.

kmanrox · 12-03-2004, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Magg You cant just go to ARIN and say, "I want some IPs, gimme"

This is simply not true. You have to meet certain requirements with regards to ARIN, and pay annually for the IP's.

Additionally, if you do not own your own ips at this time, you are at the mercy of the company that does
better hope they pay their bills or all your clients risk going down...Just a suggestion...if you want to play with the big boys get your shit together =)

Magg · 12-03-2004, 10:09 AM

Do you want to read what I said again?

You even quoted it yourself:

You cant just go to ARIN and say, "I want some IPs, gimme"

boner 2.0 · 12-03-2004, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
huh? FoundryNAP = ch00pa?

FoundryNAP c/o Ch00pa.Com CH00PA-66-55-137-0-1 (NET-66-55-137-0-1)
66.55.137.0 - 66.55.137.255

Magg · 12-03-2004, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox

Additionally, if you do not own your own ips at this time, you are at the mercy of the company that does
better hope they pay their bills or all your clients risk going down...Just a suggestion...if you want to play with the big boys get your shit together =)

Are you saying, Savvis, a MAJOR internet backbone who just BOUGHT OUT Cable and Wireless USA is going to go out business any time soon?

kmanrox · 12-03-2004, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
huh? FoundryNAP = ch00pa?

they are a direct CLIENT of ch00pa as far as i can see in my research on this matter

Magg · 12-03-2004, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kmanrox
they are a direct CLIENT of hahahahahaha as far as i can see in my research on this matter

As I said, we BUY bandwidth from them AMONG other providers. Just as ANY OTHER HOST is a "direct client" of Level3 for example.

Do you really feel the need to confuse people and try and start something for no reason kman?

kmanrox · 12-03-2004, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Magg
Do you want to read what I said again?

You even quoted it yourself:

You cant just go to ARIN and say, "I want some IPs, gimme"

what, you don't have the cashflow to handle it? you don't meet their requirements? why don't you meet their requirements if that, in fact, is why you can't goto ARIN and acquire ips?

Magg · 12-03-2004, 10:14 AM

The cashflow? It takes a minimum amount of money to get IPs from ARIN, what are you talking about? Its cheap as shit to get IPs.

Getting IPs isnt just about paying a bill to ARIN, you need to meet other requirements too.

Why do I feel like I'm your mother and have to correct every other statement of yours with the REAL information?

There is NO "big deal" or HUGE downfall in not having your own IPs, youre just another disallunsioned surfer

kmanrox · 12-03-2004, 10:19 AM

kmanrox · 12-03-2004, 10:20 AM

it's ok to be a reseller of ch00pa... just say it loud... and say it clear... like in the song, k?

Magg · 12-03-2004, 10:20 AM

Im not the one posting false facts and even misrepresenting one of my statements when you quoted the EXACT thing I said.

Whos correcting who here?

Exactly.

You want me to perform BGP? Big Deal, Ill go drop off one of my routers into a couple rackunits of space in 25Broad, 60 Hudson or one of the NJ Equinix's and get 2 drops from Abovenet and Global Crossing, apply for an ORG ID with ARIN and qualify for the rest of the requirements, and be doing BGP in 2 weeks or less.

THEN what?

webair · 12-03-2004, 12:54 PM

ohh shit there was drama and i missed it? damn

ohh well off to toronto!

Sly · 12-03-2004, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Magg
Care to do a little research on:

RCN
Oxeo
Phatservers

See what you find there.

The bandwidth we buy is multihomed, and all Tier1.
We also have a multihomed setup, with our primary bandwidth and a failover to Savvis directly. Savvis IS a Tier1 provider, and we have a direct drop into their network.

All our equipment and staff are our own personelle, we purchase pre-BGPed bandwidth, whats so bad about that?

You cant just go to ARIN and say, "I want some IPs, gimme".

Upon doing research of Phat Servers, what would you find?

deniska · 12-03-2004, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly
Upon doing research of Phat Servers, what would you find?

Nothing.. he likes to point fingers at others instead of speaking about himself.. weak character

Doctor Dre · 12-03-2004, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
no one wants cogent, its the worst bandwidth ever

Some people do .. .cauz they are still in business

Doctor Dre · 12-03-2004, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinisterStudios
I have to say all you people here are fools, we have been using cogent bandwith for years now and it is better than any other providers we use. They have only went down twice in over 3 years and have the great customer service. I guess it also helps that we directly peer to them and thats why our connection are so fast and stable. Just because eveyone say you should hate cogent bandwith doesnt mean you have to listen to them like the sheep you all are.

Aren't you the one that'S supposed to quit the business every week and make a special on content ? (sorry if that's not you)

If you think cogent is the best, you really have no clue ...

Ask the speed european webmasters get just for fun .

Doctor Dre · 12-03-2004, 01:11 PM

Ok kman, we get the point ... I don't wanna see your sig one more time

Big Ray · 12-03-2004, 01:27 PM

Magg, with all due respect, you are a reseller of Choppa (and now cogent). You do a good job marketing yourself here, but be honest with yourself and others.

Choppa has a good network, as do a lot of other hosts. Nothing wrong with being a reseller. Almost all large hosting companies started that way. Some even stayed that way.

But you personally do not run this network, nor do you have autonomy or decision making ability about it's design, implementation, and support - all of which you state or imply. That is in the hands of NetTransactions (aka Choppa).

When you say that you have a "multihomed setup", what you should be saying is that your customer?s servers are directly connected to a multihomed network.

It's your business, and you need to do what you need to do, but realize that most people that buy hosting services are smarter than you think.

SinisterStudios · 12-03-2004, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Magg
the way it is now Sinister, having cogent in your mix is just as bad as have network downtimes ever 2 minutes.

Thats the way a lot of people see it.

Luckily we dont listen to what other people try to force on you, Cogent bandwith has always been more reliable for us then the best of the best bandwith and they gave us a /22 what other provider is going to give us that many ip's?. But since we peer directly with them this could be the reason why it is so stable, we actually pier with 3 bandwith providers and Cogent has been the best of them all . But it truely doesnt matter what anyone else says it is what we experience and it could not be the same for everyone. And by the way Who says the Savis datacenter in JC is a tier 1 datacenter, they were when Exodus had it. Now the best NJ choices are Equinix and ATT for Tier 1 datacenter space which we are in both

Strife · 12-03-2004, 03:36 PM

This drama post deserves a bump

Pornopat · 12-05-2004, 04:05 AM

chaze · 12-05-2004, 04:56 AM

Cogent is not good, I don't understand why people budget so bad on hosting then spend thousands worth of time working their site.

What's the point of having a great site if it's sluggish or down most of the time.

Sorry maybe they are better now but the day I got cogent and Verio out of my network our uptime and speed is hugely...hugely better.

VeriSexy · 12-05-2004, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strife
This drama post deserves a bump

justsexxx · 12-05-2004, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by deniska
Nothing.. he likes to point fingers at others instead of speaking about himself.. weak character

Indeed. He looks like when I was a small kid.

I stole a candy, I got caught by my mum, and said, but my (name of sister) stole one as well......

And doesn't look he has his facts right anyway.

BTW what server are you including that can push 200 MBPS?

Andre

FrankHolland · 12-05-2004, 06:05 AM

popcorn anyone?

Superterrorizer · 12-05-2004, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Magg
Care to do a little research on:

RCN
Oxeo
Phatservers

See what you find there.

The bandwidth we buy is multihomed, and all Tier1.
We also have a multihomed setup, with our primary bandwidth and a failover to Savvis directly. Savvis IS a Tier1 provider, and we have a direct drop into their network.

All our equipment and staff are our own personelle, we purchase pre-BGPed bandwidth, whats so bad about that?

You cant just go to ARIN and say, "I want some IPs, gimme".

Anyone who would try to start shit about other hosting companies in an attempt to make their own look better has 0 class.

You can fool some of the less technical people here with your bullshit wannabe network admin speak, but as this thread indicates, more people than you think know you are completely full of shit.

My advice to you is give it a rest. You are a little fish in the sea, and it looks like you have caught the attention of some sharks.

trogdor · 12-05-2004, 02:08 PM

Big Ray sayin it like it is.

Better step back magg

xclusive · 12-05-2004, 03:40 PM

Hell of a deal you have going there...I'll hit you up about it soon...

TheEbonyFelony · 12-05-2004, 03:48 PM

bitchslapped

Moose · 12-05-2004, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Magg
Care to do a little research on:

RCN
Oxeo
Phatservers

See what you find there.

The bandwidth we buy is multihomed, and all Tier1.
We also have a multihomed setup, with our primary bandwidth and a failover to Savvis directly. Savvis IS a Tier1 provider, and we have a direct drop into their network.

All our equipment and staff are our own personelle, we purchase pre-BGPed bandwidth, whats so bad about that?

You cant just go to ARIN and say, "I want some IPs, gimme".

Well this further proves you are full of shit.

We went to ARIN and said "I want some IPs,gimme" as you say...and we got them.
Any decent operation (if you want to expend the energy) unlike yourself can get them.

Stop lying to the good folks here at GFY.

What is your paypal? I will send you the money to take the bus here (there is a bus station in front of our data center). You can come and do your own personal "investigation". I will even pay for round trip back to your apartment.

Your best bet is to worry about your own "bidness".
You are making yourslef look like a 18 year old punk ass kid with a complex....did i peg that right?

Jimmie · 12-05-2004, 04:04 PM

what happened to Magg? surely he has something to say, or maybe he doesnt...

<---- glad I didnt hook up with foundrynap when i was looking to get another server.

12-03-2004, 01:55 AM	#1
Magg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ICQ: 132497047 Posts: 4,467	Cogent Bandwidth Special - 200Megs for $2000 Yup, you heard right. 100% non-oversold Cogent bandwidth. 200Megabits of it for only $2000! This does include a server, please contact me with questions on this promotion. Toll Free: 1-866-NET-COLO ICQ: 132497047 AIM: FNAPChris The bandwidth would be direct from Cogent to whoever bought it. Last edited by Magg; 12-03-2004 at 01:59 AM..

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Magg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ICQ: 132497047 Posts: 4,467	Im out of KY

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Magg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ICQ: 132497047 Posts: 4,467	the way it is now Sinister, having cogent in your mix is just as bad as have network downtimes ever 2 minutes. Thats the way a lot of people see it.

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Magg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ICQ: 132497047 Posts: 4,467	No, its not, it has nothing to do with our primary network. Theres lots of people on here who'd buy Cogent and use it for whatever reason. (carelessness) so Im offering this at cost to anyone who wants it. Not even making a profit off this. $10/Meg lol Last edited by Magg; 12-03-2004 at 08:55 AM..

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Magg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ICQ: 132497047 Posts: 4,467	To be nice? Its also not bad to have built up commits with carriers, advantageous in many ways. (Who knows Level(3) might buy Cogent? ) Last edited by Magg; 12-03-2004 at 09:15 AM..

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kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	upon doing a lil research, i conclude the following; foundrynap connectivity: 1 connection to the internet -- ch00pa who is not a tier1 provider - foundrynap does not have their own network nor do they own their own ips Any questions? __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor Last edited by kmanrox; 12-03-2004 at 09:55 AM..

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Magg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ICQ: 132497047 Posts: 4,467	Care to do a little research on: RCN Oxeo Phatservers See what you find there. The bandwidth we buy is multihomed, and all Tier1. We also have a multihomed setup, with our primary bandwidth and a failover to Savvis directly. Savvis IS a Tier1 provider, and we have a direct drop into their network. All our equipment and staff are our own personelle, we purchase pre-BGPed bandwidth, whats so bad about that? You cant just go to ARIN and say, "I want some IPs, gimme". Last edited by Magg; 12-03-2004 at 10:00 AM..

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Magg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ICQ: 132497047 Posts: 4,467	No, Brisk, one of our internet providers we purchase bandwidth from is hahahahahaha, among with Savvis they are in a multihomed setup we operate out of the Savvis datacenter at the Harborside Financial Center in New Jersey.

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Magg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ICQ: 132497047 Posts: 4,467	Do you want to read what I said again? You even quoted it yourself: You cant just go to ARIN and say, "I want some IPs, gimme"

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Magg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ICQ: 132497047 Posts: 4,467	The cashflow? It takes a minimum amount of money to get IPs from ARIN, what are you talking about? Its cheap as shit to get IPs. Getting IPs isnt just about paying a bill to ARIN, you need to meet other requirements too. Why do I feel like I'm your mother and have to correct every other statement of yours with the REAL information? There is NO "big deal" or HUGE downfall in not having your own IPs, youre just another disallunsioned surfer Last edited by Magg; 12-03-2004 at 10:17 AM..

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