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Old 11-23-2004, 12:04 PM   #101
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Text only and smaller versions to come soon. Its been a long time in this biz since I have seen anything convert better than this. Its like XPICS days or early nastydollars days. Get in now while its hot and fresh.
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:28 PM   #102
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How long before you guys come up with Bio-Targeted Ads also??

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Old 11-23-2004, 01:42 PM   #103
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Check out these our new Geo-Banners located on our banner page.

I get a blank page in both opera, explorer and firefox :(
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Old 11-23-2004, 01:44 PM   #104
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Interesting.. it was targeted at the next town over rather than my town but still effective no doubt.
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Old 11-23-2004, 02:54 PM   #105
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I am sorry if this has been mentioned within the last 100 posts but where do we enter our affiliate id? I see a hostid and p=, I put mine after p=, is this right?
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Old 11-23-2004, 03:14 PM   #106
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I am sorry if this has been mentioned within the last 100 posts but where do we enter our affiliate id? I see a hostid and p=, I put mine after p=, is this right?
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Check again everything looks good here.

Also if you want to see the banner with your Affiliate ID already in it go to http://banners.adultfriendfinder.com and enter your ID.
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Old 11-23-2004, 03:21 PM   #107
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Old 11-23-2004, 03:53 PM   #108
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Old 11-23-2004, 03:54 PM   #109
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Plus adding these now is making me hit the november bonus aff is offering the income is gonna be huge this month woot.
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Old 11-23-2004, 04:09 PM   #110
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The link does not seem to work anymore.

Is it down?
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Old 11-23-2004, 08:06 PM   #111
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There is one serious problem I see with this concept....

I have chosen to promote AFF over the last couple of years, as I felt that this site showed a degree of integrity that isn't always present on a number of the other adult sites or dating sites.

This type of ad is moving in the opposite direction. How so, you ask?

The girls or "content" used in the geo-ads are not going to be found on your site. So, now, when a customer clicks on the ad, and joins specifically to meet one of the girls in the ad..they are going to be sadly disappointed. In fact, this is no different then the other sites "seeding" the personals with a numbr of dummy personals.

This is completely different then regular ads, which show any number of pretty gals. These ads are claiming that the girls really are located in your home town...and, as I mentioned above..they aren't.

Uusally a great program...but I am disappointed at the direction you have gone with these.
just add a textlink
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Old 11-23-2004, 08:17 PM   #112
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Kris here... (Feed the Kitty gurl).... Track me down, let's talk about the banner and my ad on AFF.

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Old 11-23-2004, 10:17 PM   #113
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i decided to test the text link feature

Find a Real SEX Partner in .....(city)..... now! (click) -----> Sorry, no matches

the only positive thing is that i'm not even close to the city it suggested.

It;s getting better but this feature certainly needs some more tunning on IP detecting and proper result pages.

for example, if no matches were found, it would be nice to give the results from cities nearby.

I will start using the textfeeds when more accurate and if available in more languages.
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Old 11-23-2004, 11:00 PM   #114
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Yes the good news is there is lots of room for imporvement. And given the huge increase in sales I am willing to go all out to find the best geo IP script out there. Money is no object !
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:46 AM   #115
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Money is no object !

right! it is the objective! ;-)


btw Lars, have you ever thought of using 0900 pay-per-minute voice numbers as a billing option in your cam concept for european visitors? For a profitable example on how a pay-per-minute voice billing option is combined with home cams, you can take a look at the feartures of privatexxx.nl
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Old 11-24-2004, 09:10 AM   #116
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right! it is the objective! ;-)


btw Lars, have you ever thought of using 0900 pay-per-minute voice numbers as a billing option in your cam concept for european visitors? For a profitable example on how a pay-per-minute voice billing option is combined with home cams, you can take a look at the feartures of privatexxx.nl
I will take a look usually though it does not fit well with the payout model of our biz.
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Old 11-24-2004, 11:01 AM   #117
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I am sorry if this has been mentioned within the last 100 posts but where do we enter our affiliate id? I see a hostid and p=, I put mine after p=, is this right?
Yeah you can just add it to the end of the link. You can also add your subid right there if you want as well.
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Old 11-24-2004, 11:08 AM   #118
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it could add a zipcode in so if a city is in more than one state it gets the right one..
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Old 11-24-2004, 11:25 AM   #119
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I will take a look usually though it does not fit well with the payout model of our biz.
TY for taking a look. But I'm not sure if I understand correctly what you mean by doesn't fit well. Are you referring to what performers and affiliates want or are you referring to the surfer needs?

In my opnion you should aim for the surfer in that respect. Same with these AFF geo target features, it's all about serving him the right goods at the right time and with the proper billing option.

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TY for taking a look. But I'm not sure if I understand correctly what you mean by doesn't fit well. Are you referring to what performers and affiliates want or are you referring to the surfer needs?

In my opnion you should aim for the surfer in that respect. Same with these AFF geo target features, it's all about serving him the right goods at the right time and with the proper billing option.

the economics dont fit well.. we pay the models 35% and we pay teh wemasters 20% thats usually at a minimum $1-2 bucks a minute and thats before I even start to make a profit its hard to charge enough $$ on a phone for me to get $4 bucks my cut after they take all their cuts.
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it could add a zipcode in so if a city is in more than one state it gets the right one..
Ok I will see what we can do good Idea

thought zip was not on all cities we looked at in the database
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Ok I will see what we can do good Idea

thought zip was not on all cities we looked at in the database
it doesn't say zip for them all but it should say state so you can work backwards and just put a zipcode from that state in..
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the economics dont fit well.. we pay the models 35% and we pay teh wemasters 20% thats usually at a minimum $1-2 bucks a minute and thats before I even start to make a profit its hard to charge enough $$ on a phone for me to get $4 bucks my cut after they take all their cuts.

ok Lars, let's just do these economics with the pay-per-minute consumer and payout rates for the more interesting european countries for cam traffic.
UK 1,50 pounds a minute ---> average pay-out of 1 pound
GER 1,24 euro per minute ---> average payout of 80 eurocents
NL 0,80 euro per minute ----> average payout of 55 eurocents
The performer/model still will get only 35% of the payout rate in question right? And the webmaster gets his/her 20% of that amount. It's the same economics only with smaller amounts.
European models and or amateur cam performers are used to these amounts so it will tier new performers to the concept. This will enable you to offer a cam concept that will convert all cam traffic no matter what timezone the surfer is in.

I'll leave it at this, for this thread is bumped enough for AFF ;-)
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it doesn't say zip for them all but it should say state so you can work backwards and just put a zipcode from that state in..
Yup I will yammer at the programmers about it
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Old 11-24-2004, 01:53 PM   #125
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ok Lars, let's just do these economics with the pay-per-minute consumer and payout rates for the more interesting european countries for cam traffic.
UK 1,50 pounds a minute ---> average pay-out of 1 pound
GER 1,24 euro per minute ---> average payout of 80 eurocents
NL 0,80 euro per minute ----> average payout of 55 eurocents
The performer/model still will get only 35% of the payout rate in question right? And the webmaster gets his/her 20% of that amount. It's the same economics only with smaller amounts.
European models and or amateur cam performers are used to these amounts so it will tier new performers to the concept. This will enable you to offer a cam concept that will convert all cam traffic no matter what timezone the surfer is in.

I'll leave it at this, for this thread is bumped enough for AFF ;-)
I have just found that most models wont stuff things in them for 40 cents a minute....
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:27 PM   #126
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Get em up they are poppin up all over the place.
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Sorry only so much time in the day ..


But I take what you say very seriously !

Plus it is a holiday tomorrow here and lots of my staff are leaving early to be with their families.
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Old 11-24-2004, 10:22 PM   #129
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Old 11-25-2004, 10:35 AM   #130
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Yes this is some of the best boost to sales I have seen in years from one simple tweak.


Its off the fucking hook !

Get it up right now before it looses effectiveness !
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Old 11-25-2004, 11:48 PM   #131
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hahha even on a holiday the sales are off the hook
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Old 11-26-2004, 11:15 AM   #132
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jumpin right back on the grind !
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Old 11-26-2004, 02:05 PM   #133
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OK, Holiday's done, back to work!
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Old 11-26-2004, 02:43 PM   #134
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And I'm still very curious as to the legality of these new banners. The girls shown do NOT live in the town indicated...although the ads imply that they do. And I'm equally surprised that both Lars and the AFF representative have completely disregarded that this question has been brought up by myself and others in this thread.

As I said before, the one thing that made AFF stand above the others before is that you could trust that most of the profiles (of course, ALL would be better...) were real. This new approach still smells suspiciously like an online version of bait and switch.

And, it makes me question if, in fact, the other profiles on AFF are real...or is their a healthy amount of "seeding" going on there as well. Please say it ain't so...
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great idea

i use this service across my adult services sites and its alot better to bang up a big list of areas that surfers can click that takes them striaght to a page of contacts in the area they choose

definalty a reason why some whould consider signing up on aff to take advantage of the services provided in the area of there choice


its definalty working better than sending them to a page they may have seen countless times in the past and therefore close without thinking
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Actually, I take back part of my post above. As is my usual approach, before I decided to promote AFF a couple of years back, I first joined. I communciated with some females in my area, and found that..yes, they were real...and yes, if we clicked, they were ready to meet. So, I do still feel that AFF is overall offering a good, honest program. I'm just apprehensive about using the geoads, for the reasons listed above.
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Well I'll give them more time, but I have yet to see an increase in either click thrus or sign ups. Now I don't send massive traffic like other guys but I would have definatley noticed 3X the sign ups by now. Maybe perhaps I already had a good method of getting SU.
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Actually, I take back part of my post above. As is my usual approach, before I decided to promote AFF a couple of years back, I first joined. I communciated with some females in my area, and found that..yes, they were real...and yes, if we clicked, they were ready to meet. So, I do still feel that AFF is overall offering a good, honest program. I'm just apprehensive about using the geoads, for the reasons listed above.
And indeed all of the models on my cams are in friendfinder (but not as members) since they have my cams as upsells to their members. This is only a temporay solution until a better solution can be made but the time to act is now to get the huge increase in sales.
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more kick ass ads coming next week get them up while they are hot !
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great idea

i use this service across my adult services sites and its alot better to bang up a big list of areas that surfers can click that takes them striaght to a page of contacts in the area they choose

definalty a reason why some whould consider signing up on aff to take advantage of the services provided in the area of there choice


its definalty working better than sending them to a page they may have seen countless times in the past and therefore close without thinking
Yes it really is very crazy ! I have not seen thsi kinda response to a new ad in years !
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I am lovin these geo ads they are kicking serious ass !
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triple your money with these geo ads..

get em up now your loosing huge cash !
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Go with the biggest and the best promote aff via ifram ads and triple your income !
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i'm bumping thread purly casue i thought it was a good thing to do and my relationship with lars or AFF had nothing to do with it.


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