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Old 11-20-2004, 08:49 PM   #51
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Old 11-20-2004, 08:54 PM   #52
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Are there any with just the text link alone?
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Old 11-20-2004, 08:56 PM   #53
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Are there any with just the text link alone?
I have a C++ script I'll sell to do that now. You'll still need to purchase the DB.
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Old 11-20-2004, 08:59 PM   #54
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Are there any with just the text link alone?
Great idea. Then this could be used in conjunction with the banners. And eliminates my worries in the previous page, regarding misleading the consumer.
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Old 11-20-2004, 09:01 PM   #55
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Also, it would be nice if the background colors could be customized to match pages. Just an idea.
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Old 11-20-2004, 09:03 PM   #56
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Are there any with just the text link alone?
I think I may be answering my own question, but can you just take the URL from the text link and use that as your own custom geo-IP text link?

i.e.

http://adultfriendfinder.com/search/...35&override=1.

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Will this way count hits and credit signups?
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Also, it would be nice if the background colors could be customized to match pages. Just an idea.
This, they have already implemented. Just look for BGColor=ffffff in the html code, and you can change the background colors to what ever you want.
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Old 11-20-2004, 09:20 PM   #58
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I think I may be answering my own question, but can you just take the URL from the text link and use that as your own custom geo-IP text link?

i.e.

http://adultfriendfinder.com/search/...35&override=1.

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Will this way count hits and credit signups?
Ignore this. This way is wrong.
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This, they have already implemented. Just look for BGColor=ffffff in the html code, and you can change the background colors to what ever you want.
Thanks. I didn't even pay attention to that. D'oh!
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Old 11-21-2004, 12:14 AM   #60
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Are there any with just the text link alone?

yes next week we will have several options to choose from

We will be beefing up this offering with a number of ad options this is just the first one we will do smaller pics and text only and a few other ideas I have kicking around in my head
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Old 11-21-2004, 12:38 AM   #61
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There is one serious problem I see with this concept....

I have chosen to promote AFF over the last couple of years, as I felt that this site showed a degree of integrity that isn't always present on a number of the other adult sites or dating sites.

This type of ad is moving in the opposite direction. How so, you ask?

The girls or "content" used in the geo-ads are not going to be found on your site. So, now, when a customer clicks on the ad, and joins specifically to meet one of the girls in the ad..they are going to be sadly disappointed. In fact, this is no different then the other sites "seeding" the personals with a numbr of dummy personals.

This is completely different then regular ads, which show any number of pretty gals. These ads are claiming that the girls really are located in your home town...and, as I mentioned above..they aren't.

Uusally a great program...but I am disappointed at the direction you have gone with these.
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One main problem it shows a the name of a town about 20 miles away from me, but when I click the link, a town of the same name in another state results are shown. That's going to hurt conversions.
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Old 11-21-2004, 01:21 AM   #63
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Tobad that isnt the city where i'm located
I know its not 100% but you would think surfing from Chicago, you would be referred to someone in Chicago, not Hammond Indiana.
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Old 11-21-2004, 03:05 AM   #66
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i'd prefer text link add too ....
might work much better for me ...

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Old 11-21-2004, 03:10 AM   #67
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content ? I always though AFF members are real?

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There is one serious problem I see with this concept....

I have chosen to promote AFF over the last couple of years, as I felt that this site showed a degree of integrity that isn't always present on a number of the other adult sites or dating sites.

This type of ad is moving in the opposite direction. How so, you ask?

The girls or "content" used in the geo-ads are not going to be found on your site. So, now, when a customer clicks on the ad, and joins specifically to meet one of the girls in the ad..they are going to be sadly disappointed. In fact, this is no different then the other sites "seeding" the personals with a numbr of dummy personals.

This is completely different then regular ads, which show any number of pretty gals. These ads are claiming that the girls really are located in your home town...and, as I mentioned above..they aren't.

Uusally a great program...but I am disappointed at the direction you have gone with these.



u are way over analysing



the guy hasnt actually fallen in love with the girl he has seen in the advert - when he gets to the site sure he isnt going to see that exact same girl but its not very hard to consider the scenario where the guy doesnt see the initial girl but with two minutes has seen some other girl that IS in his area and has already forgotton about the first one he saw
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Old 11-21-2004, 03:26 AM   #69
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surely surfers outside the US are going realise that it's not correct
I am currently in Helsinki; Finland and i am getting the correct ad

But iam not seeing currently clickstats for my subaffiliatelinks
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One main problem it shows a the name of a town about 20 miles away from me, but when I click the link, a town of the same name in another state results are shown. That's going to hurt conversions.
that could be easily fixed..
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Old 11-21-2004, 04:24 AM   #71
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The geo track is not good....if you want better geo location use this
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Old 11-21-2004, 06:15 AM   #72
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The geo track is not good....if you want better geo location use this
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none of these work 100% for instance this one you post says I am in fresno and I am actually in santa monica right now. The whole point is yes its not 100% but for the people it does hit they pull out their credit card 3 times more. I for one am using them and they totally fucking work. If your not using these ads for aff then you are throwing money out the window !
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I have noticed that no one from AFF has chosen to address the issue of false advertising. As I mentioned above, by using this type of ad, we are inferring that these girls actually live in the surfers area, and are wanting to meet. This simply isn't the case.

A mainstream comparison would be the local stereo shop showing Sanyo and Pioneer Stereos in their ads, when they don't even sell these brands. And the ironic thing is, if this technique was used in mainstream, the regulators would be on the store and fining them almost immediately.

And yes, I have the choice of not using these ads in my own promotions. But, that still doesn't eliminate the use of what I consider misleading advertising by this otherwise, good program.
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Old 11-21-2004, 12:25 PM   #75
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I have noticed that no one from AFF has chosen to address the issue of false advertising. As I mentioned above, by using this type of ad, we are inferring that these girls actually live in the surfers area, and are wanting to meet. This simply isn't the case.

The reason no-one mentions it is because its hardly relevant and i'm not entirely sure this is false advertising. First off, it can be argued that:

(1) AFF is showing images of the girls that you will meet or at least an example of the kind of girls you will meet.

(2) AFF has a large enough user base to almost guarantee that you will infact meet other users who come from your local area.

(3) AFF is following what is essentially advertising norms where concerns this specific kind of online advertising.

(4) The "Sanyo brand" example is a bad one because AFF could be deemed to be advertising the "Female" brand and they have a lot of that on offer.

(5) Shut the fuck up and push these banners. Make some bank and fuck some hoes and maybe you wont be so uptight.
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The reason no-one mentions it is because its hardly relevant and i'm not entirely sure this is false advertising. First off, it can be argued that:

(1) AFF is showing images of the girls that you will meet or at least an example of the kind of girls you will meet.

(2) AFF has a large enough user base to almost guarantee that you will infact meet other users who come from your local area.

(3) AFF is following what is essentially advertising norms where concerns this specific kind of online advertising.

(4) The "Sanyo brand" example is a bad one because AFF could be deemed to be advertising the "Female" brand and they have a lot of that on offer.

(5) Shut the fuck up and push these banners. Make some bank and fuck some hoes and maybe you wont be so uptight.
That really isn't your decision to make. I'll bet eventually the FTC will get involved. It will be up to them ultimately since AFF is in the US and this would definitely fall into the jurisdiction of the FTC. All it takes is one pissed off member to file a complaint and make a few follow-up calls and the FTC will crack down.
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Seems the geo DB is not so great for canada.
I'm in port moody, and it tells me i'm in new westminster - that is actually not too bad as its only a 15 minute drive from here.

However, it shows Toronto for one vancouver friend of mine
and it shows Ottawa for another vancouver friend. Thats
quite far away (5 hours by plane). Hmm..perhaps that
might still work. Perhaps the ad should say "Find someone to fuck in Toronto while you are there on your next business trip".

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From my experience and research, MaxMind.com offers the most accurate data lists for IP-to-City worldwide.

If Lars or AFF see a lot of inaccuracies, they should just shell out a little extra and get MaxMind's data

Just for an example, I was shocked to see they listed me at 'Sabanillas', which isnt even a city but a small region of a few blocks. In comparison, AFF shows me as San Jose (the capital city of Costa Rica) which isn't where I am at all.

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Old 11-21-2004, 02:56 PM   #79
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It puts my city in Wichita, fifty miles away from me.
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Very nice! I can't wait to see what tweaks you guys come up with! Always innovative, AFF just plain ROCKS.
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where can i find ones for outpersonals.com?
I'm curious to know if there will be these type of ads for OutPersonals as well.
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From my experience and research, MaxMind.com offers the most accurate data lists for IP-to-City worldwide.

If Lars or AFF see a lot of inaccuracies, they should just shell out a little extra and get MaxMind's data

Just for an example, I was shocked to see they listed me at 'Sabanillas', which isnt even a city but a small region of a few blocks. In comparison, AFF shows me as San Jose (the capital city of Costa Rica) which isn't where I am at all.

Consider this a free tip, do with it what you will
i think they are already using maxmind data, perhaps a different update though.
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i get this error in the geotarget iframe:

Error. The file was not found. (filename = E:\SR-Legendary\legendaryLars\commonpages\errorpage.jsp) Error. The file was not found. (filename = E:\SR-Legendary\legendaryLars\generic\errorpage.jsp)



what's happening?
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none of these work 100% for instance this one you post says I am in fresno and I am actually in santa monica right now. The whole point is yes its not 100% but for the people it does hit they pull out their credit card 3 times more. I for one am using them and they totally fucking work. If your not using these ads for aff then you are throwing money out the window !
I'm using them Lars,but try to speed up the loading time

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Ads look great, but sadly the geotargeting is horrible.

The various geotargeting services I've tried IDs my IP exactly right as Reading, PA.

And yet AFF is off by over 20 miles!

Royersford is a tiny place, population wise, and nowhere near Reading, which is a small city of 80,000+ and the county seat of Berks County; Royersford is not even located in the same county!

Why is AFF so far off?

In regards to truth of advertising ... I agree with some of the others here ... AFF should select out REAL profiles and display those - surely that should be easy to do since AFF already does it automatically when one specifies their location (zip code, etc).

Why not show REAL profiles?

As of now, I'd strongly suggest anyone using these new AFF ads to place a large, simple notice that indicates some to the effect that the profiles shown are for demonstration purposes and not necessarily reflective of reality.

I personally will not use the new ads until geotargeting is improved and real profiles are shown.

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Nice effort AFF and Lars.

It would have been nice however if real profiles could be used. I referred an idea to AFF not long ago about using profiles from members that signed up through my site (privatexxx). I'm still waiting for a response.

Anyway, I'm not going to use the (faked) geo targeted profiles. I'm satisfied with the results I get from the way I promote AFF right now. It took me some time but I'm starting to get the hang of it. I hate fakes and so do my visitors, so using faked profiles is a big no-no.

Anyone else heading for the extra 10% bonus over November btw?

i'm also getting this error when browsing my aff banner area;
Error. The file was not found. (filename = E:\SR-Legendary\legendaryLars\commonpages\errorpage.jsp) Error. The file was not found. (filename = E:\SR-Legendary\legendaryLars\generic\errorpage.jsp)

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Nice effort AFF and Lars.


Anyone else heading for the extra 10% bonus over November btw?
only realised there was a 10% bonus this month until i read the follow up email.. currently not on target :/
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Anyone else heading for the extra 10% bonus over November btw?
I won!...hehe

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9 / 10 loads and i get that .jsp error. hope it gets fixed, nice edition to a tgp.
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9 / 10 loads and i get that .jsp error. hope it gets fixed, nice edition to a tgp.
We are working with Lars to speed it up as we speak.
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Old 11-22-2004, 01:22 PM   #95
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We are working with Lars to speed it up as we speak.
Ah good, I was hoping it wasn't something on my end.
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Old 11-22-2004, 02:57 PM   #96
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Ok there was so much demand for this product we blew out the 10 extra servers we ordered for it and overloaded one database server. We have moved to static pages and it is smoking now. the geo is still in there, and later tonight we will start randomizing the static pages to make them look fresh each time your users visit the pages. Sorry for the slowness of the iframes I knew it would be big but had no idea the ammount of pounding you guys would be throwing at it. Next couple days we will offewr a simple geo target text ad that people have been asking for over and over again Thanks for your patience and your traffic. My numbers have exploded since using these ads its simply amazing !
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Old 11-22-2004, 03:07 PM   #97
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And the ads are not so deceiving any more
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Ok there was so much demand for this product we blew out the 10 extra servers we ordered for it and overloaded one database server. We have moved to static pages and it is smoking now. the geo is still in there, and later tonight we will start randomizing the static pages to make them look fresh each time your users visit the pages. Sorry for the slowness of the iframes I knew it would be big but had no idea the ammount of pounding you guys would be throwing at it. Next couple days we will offewr a simple geo target text ad that people have been asking for over and over again Thanks for your patience and your traffic. My numbers have exploded since using these ads its simply amazing !
Thanks Lars. The banners are smoking fast again.
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Very cool!
Just added that to a new swingers site we're launching in a few days!
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good the random is back in so it looks fresh

and it is blazing now people are making bank off of this !
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