Sheesh... how DUMB did I assume??? Not enough yet!

MrPheer...... you claim it is war. Who declared that??? I can't remember Iraq declaring war on the US? Did I miss something?

Second... when a person is lying wounded and surrounded by US troops, why would you assume he is some target to execute?

Who claimed, at least at this moment, that he was some enemy who intended to shoot anyone in the back?? You have some hotline to Iraq??

Sorry if it does not suit ya to have some wounded guy crawling up to some soldier and "not surrendering". Where the fuck do you get these weird ideas????

Na.. don't tell me... it's clear I could not possibly understand that level of logic.

Ollie North is saying that the guy that shot the wounded person was himself wounded from an engagement a few hours prior and some of his people were killed. Ollie North pointed out that his unit has been engaged in Fullaja for eight days with little to no rest. There will be an article 32 investigation and the truth will come out...possibly a Courts Martial...but either way this guys military career is probably over...at the least...because it was caught on tape.

I just don't believe that King is real. Nobody can be THAT dumb. If George Bush told him that the earth was flat he would believe and defend it either, so just let him.

xenophobic:

Well... yeah...

Some call it a total fuckup. Not only that, but one of the biggest fuckups in the last 100 years when any country could claim they went to war on the basis of, not one myth, but at least two.

Now the damage has been done, what's the next move?? I don't doubt the US will pay in whatever way, and pay dearly.

Who knows, but it is depressing to think of this level of utter stupidity that causes so much killing and the creation of some very pissed off people who will clearly be intent in taking revenge and killing still more innocent people.

It is also very sad to think that the people of the US still have nada clue about fuck all in this war and expect to enjoy their lives while others suffer. It is clear they still believe so much of the bullshit they were told, such as WMD and some ties to terrorism.

There is nothing to be said - it is something beyond words and little doubt, there will be/is an appropriate response from other nations, - nevermind any "terrorists" who will come later.

It is also very clear, there is a mental deficiency in the US Admin when they cannot learn, almost anything, from previous history.

FYI...I am not a fan of President Bush...and did not vote for him either time...so your post could not be anymore wrong. Now :321GFY kid.

You ask all this bullshit, yet you make your judgements from a few seconds of video. I'm willing to make a large wager that the only combat you've ever seen in your life has just been on video.

I get my 'weird ideas' from my own experiences in combat.

Small units, or squad sized groups of soldiers just dont take prisoners. Prisoners have to be properly processed and guarded. These guys clearly do not have time for that. War is not about convenience. And regardless if Iraq didnt declare war, war is what it going on. Did you miss the reports of all the dead soldiers being flown home over the past year?

As opposed to arresting him and putting him in a POW camp? What that kid did was kill a non-dangerous individual, that's called murder.

If you served in the military, you might be familiar with the Geneva Conventions. If were you, you would know that killing an unarmed individual (civilian or military, it doesn't matter) rather then taking them prisoner is a war crime.

You don't know if I've been in combat or not. Just FYI, I did 2 tours over seas in ONW, which was combat operations. Would you like a little salt with those words you're about to eat?

this is bullshit the guy is gonna get in trouble for this and i dont blame him for one second for what he did

What the "kid did" was kill a wounded person that should have been considered as being dangerous...and in fact could have been dangerous. In addition...according to Ollie North the shooters unit has been engaged for eight days with little or no rest and he himself had been wounded in an engagement a matter of hours before he shot the wounded person...and some of his unit had been killed.

There will be an Article 32 investigation...and the truth of what actually happened and why will be made public.

Now :321GFY liar.

theKing:

DUH?? Is "Ollie North" some person of relevance??

Was he the person who shot a wounded guy in the head?

Who cares if that soldier was wounded in some earlier "engagement" or others were killed? Don't use some weak excuse about US soldiers being killed when there have been, and still continuing, far more being killed on the "other side", including plenty innocent people.

Who cares about "article 32" or some Court Martial? If the issue is accurate as it "appears" to be - it is clearly above any US law.

Of course his military career is over - he is too embarassing for the Pentagon it no question his career needs terminating. He is unfit as a soldier in any army.

Other than that, tho remains to be seen based on reality, he guy needs to be charged with a war crime.

Why do idiots in the US always trot out such a load of bullshit as some defense?? This disease stems from the top down to trash like King.

It is sure time to get outta lala land and learn at least some truths of the real world.

So I assume you would have absolutely no problem with the summary executions of injured or captured US troops?

After all, the same rules apply to the enemy.

That would be fair and just, right?

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U.S. soldier shoots wounded TERRORIST
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We've got to be sure to include the word "terrorist", because that's what justifies the execution of an unarmed and severely wounded individual. [/sarcasm]

They are in war. They have already shot and killed thousands right? Who gives a fuck!

What about taking him prisoner as we are supposed to do under the Geneva conventions?

Hey numb nuts..read the articles on it. They WERE prisoners awaiting MEDICAL evacuation.

You're right, vengence and racism is a good enough reason to break Geneva conventions and act like barbarians. [/sarcasm]

You must not be familiar with this thing called WAR. Ever watch a war movie? They shoot people when they are running away. Whats the difference? Its war! The point is killing

It is within military law...and an Article 32 investigation will determine the truth of the event. You know...the thing called "due process".

It is you that needs to get out of "lala" Webbyland and realize that yes...there is a real world...of which you clearly do not have an understanding of same.

All is fair in love and war : )

So I can assume the holocaust was okay with you... cos killing's okay, right?

Link...where it states that they were POW's?

That's just very wrong.....:2 cents:

You are tarded aren't you?
The LINKS have ALL READY been listed in this thread idiot child!
:1orglaugh Go back to your bottle & watch some more tv!

The guy is dogmatic. He starts with a conviction and works backwards to prove or justify it. Nothing you can say will change that. That's what the "ignore" function is for. :thumbsup

Fuck the Geneva conventions and having any civility, we don't have time to deal with these people. Let's just execute them, even if they are unarmed and wounded. [/sarcasm]

Good point, human life has no value.

R U for real??

Ever hear of the Geneva conventions? If you have enemy combatants that are unarmed, you may not kill them. Especially if they are wounded and awaiting for a medical evacuation. Just saying "it's war" does not justify any attoricty that you find either convenient or fun.

Seems to be the way it is. Justified or not, I don't see any or haven't heard of any insurgent POW camps...have you?

As I stated he had not been taken as a POW...other than some article calling them POW's...

"The pool report by NBC correspondent Kevin Sites said the mosque had been used by insurgents to attack U.S. forces, who stormed it and an adjacent building, killing 10 militants and wounding the five.


Sites said the wounded had been left in the mosque for others to pick up and move to the rear for treatment. No reason was given why that had not happened.


A second group of Marines entered the mosque on Saturday after reports it had been reoccupied. Footage from the embedded television crew showed the five still in the mosque, although several appeared to be already close to death, Sites said.


He said one Marine noticed one of the prisoners was still breathing.


A Marine can be heard saying on the pool footage provided to Reuters Television: "He's fucking faking he's dead. He faking he's fucking dead."


"The Marine then raises his rifle and fires into the man's head. The pictures are too graphic for us to broadcast," Sites said. No images of the shooting were shown in the footage provided to Reuters.


The report said the Marine, who had returned to duty after being shot in the face a day earlier, had been removed from the field and was being questioned by the U.S. military."

Because they don't take prisoners means we shouldn't? Fuck the Geneva conventions, we'll do what these uncivilized barbarians do and justify it by saying things like, "Well they're doing it!"

Yes...I am for real...and in fact he and the others had not been taken as POW's.

You really should just shut up. There's a difference between delustional and stupid.

MrPheer is correct...small units do not normally take prisoners unless ordered to do so. In addition in every war since the Geneva Convention all combatants have violated it...for the reasons I stated earlier.

I'm not there...I wasn't there - I have no ability to judge. Obviously you do. You should tell me...what this person should have done?

Go back and suck down another bottle of pills will ya already?
Yeah..how dare those REPORTERS WRITE in the article that they WERE PRISONERS! (Noticed you did NOT cut & paste that in did you now asswipe?)

You ALSO left out the LAST entry in that story:

Sites said the shot prisoner "did not appear to be armed or threatening in any way."

You're dismissed Pig Shit!

He and the others had in fact not been taken as POW's...according to the news reports.

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