To clarify before the below, I'm not one of those people against the war who think the US is 'evil' and all our soldiers are 'baby killers', etc. I hate that shit. Blaming the soldiers has always been petty in my mind, as well as factually ridiculous. They don't call the shots, and do the best they can to survive.

However... the entire point of creating a code of conduct for civilized nations is to differentiate us from them. If you think we should look to the terrorists to set the example, then you need to rethink things, IMO.

I personally plan to wait until all the facts are out before passing judgement on this kid. We weren't there, and we don't know. BUT - if it ends up that he shot someone without a weapon, who posed no threat, then I'm afraid I would have no problem with him being in trouble.

We're not barbarians, and it's not a free for all. We don't behead captives, and we don't shoot unarmed, injured combatants. Why? Because we're better than that, and hold ourselves up to a higher standard, period. What the other side does is not our barometer of acceptable response.

I wish the USA( I don't say "We" because I'm Canadian) weren't there at all- I think its a horrible bloody unnecessary mess... I just can't help but fuel some bloodlust after reading about these 100% innocent women(there to HELP Iraqi's) being abducted, tortured, mutilated and killed.

Always remember to off the camera.

:thumbsup

codymc12:

Agree with the rest of your post!

The fact is, it is a very small element who do stuff like beheading, and they deserve to be tried and executed themselves.

The rest of the "fighters", whether on the Iraqi side or the US forces, conduct themselves as best they can.

Both sides claim to be fighting for a cause, - some have more just causes than others, - but there never was an "excuse" for war crimes on either side.

Nicely said. This is pretty much how I feel about it. Also it should be said that soldiers are trained killers. The responsibly of sending them to kill is the big question. When we send our soldiers to kill it should be with good reason. So it all kinda comes full circle to the people that decided to send them. If this soldier executed a defenseless person he'll be brought to trial.

When China and the US is at war, and China has invaded the US.... I'll be sure to call you a terrorist for defending your own country.

Idiot.

War crime? No, just America teaching the world democracy, Christianity and civil rights. They'll get honoured by Big George Himself.

50 wounded militants...

You are correct...no fucking clue. It has been reported that Iraqi's have pretended to be wounded/dead to draw our troops in and then have attacked them. It has been reported that Iraqi's have booby trapped their dead so that when moved they will blow up those attempting to move them. When ones life is on the line...one uses their descretion to protect their lives.

In this instance...the troop involved will be duly investigated...with the results being a Courts Martial...or not.

andykidd:

Agree! The basic question hits back to... what the fuck is the US doing there in the first instance?

We have dumped all rational reasons as having nada cred - like WMD and ties with terrorism etc.

Both sides need to fuck off home and leave the locals in peace to sort out their own affairs, - tho hard to do this now, - it's just a total fuckup once again.

theKing:

Can always rely on King to pull some excuses out of the air as justification for *whatever* in his own mind.

Ya wanna see some premeditated execution by US forces?? You soon will.

Quit whining about others as usual.. they have seen/experienced shit and many have loads of good reasons to kill US forces.

Easy answer and the answer will always remain the same...because the Administation...the Congress...and the American people deemed it to be in the perceived best interests of the US. When it is no longer perceived to be in the best interests of the US...there will be a withdrawal.

theKing:

I wondered why every country does not come out with such utter crap to try and justify their actions.

If I was to take that comment seriously.. first response would be - fuck the US Admin and any house of govt there. They are clearly utterly insane.

The truth is... that picture you painted is not accurate and is the product of your pet idiot in power there. What's new?

On a more serious note... I actually would say "fuck US interests" - they have nada cred on this planet and will obviously be returned with the fruit they have sown.

i guess thats one incident where playing possum doesnt work.

No. "Justice."

That is the main reason that the media has no business in there. If you leave that guy there to live and breath and fight another day, he may kill you. If you had a reason to shoot him in the first place. Finish the job with a second bullet.

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did you read the story at the url given some posts before? reading your comment i think you did not.
read it

How about sawing the head off of a civilian prisoner? Then you're just defending your land against invaders, right?

Yeah, so US troops can get down to the serious business of committing atrocities and war crimes without that pesky media telling the world about it.

That'd be good, wouldn't it?

This is true...although sadly its too late to anything except continue to stay and deal with the mess that the USA caused over there.

Why the USA isn't doing this in the mountains of Afghanistan is beyond me...

so there is no difference between the us army and the rebels?

interesting

http://faculty.washington.edu/kendo/usm10015.jpg
MacArthur's not dead. He's just frozen. He had some good ideas for how to deal with the Chinese. :Graucho

pornguy:

There is a problem with a lack of accountability, - not just in a war zone.

The media at least provides some highly slanted grain of truth of what is happening in eg Iraq. You can't expect those in bed with forces to be "open" with truth, but it is at least, a level of accountability.

The same shit happened in Vietnam, tho it took long enough afterwards to make it palatable for the US people to see, tho the rest of the world were aware.

Forces of any country are expected to adhere to military code, - else what is the point of any code?? Is that yet just another bit of paper you sign and forget?

If so.. hell.. we might as well just nuke each other and fuck any standards of conduct.

Of course there is and I did not imply that they were the same in my post. However, I do find it funny for someone like Webby to speak to us on war crimes when his posts on here very nearly defend the actions of the militants in Iraq who are the ones committing true atrocities against civilians, no less.

Interesting...idiot.

The kid that shot him probably just watched his buddies face shot off and was looking for a little pay back on some sand nigga ass.. Happens all the time.

How dumb can you people be? 9/11 has been a terrorist act, committed by non-Americans on American soil. America has attacked Iraq, despite Iraq having nothing to do with 9/11 and not even having WMD's. So guess, who are the terrorists in Iraq?

fucking war....

i was just asking a question, calling me an idiot for this.. well, if it helps you in any way.. thank you.

You're very welcome. Glad I could educate and interest you. It's the key to our children's success in school: make learning fun.

Martin:

What part of your brain thought up that scenario??

There is no suggestion so far that this was even a possible scenario.

The story so far is that this imbecile arrived on the scene with others and had no clue as to who were "terrorists" or civilians and was made aware the victim was alive and decided to put a bullet in his head.

That honorable US soldier had no clue if that person was innocent or not. He just decided to murder him.

I know who needs their face blown off... tho not even that idiot deserves that.

He is scum.

you do not need to educate me, dont worry.

ich kann zumindest etwas was du niemals koennen wirst ;)

Ahh...but Saddam was a sworn enemy of Americans and of Americas's ally...his military forces fired almost daily upon American and British forces...he openly supported several terrorist orgs allied against America's ally...he openly called for the killing of Americans where ever they were to be found...thus the Administration...with the support of Congress and the American people decided to take him and his Baathist Party down.

And what would that be? Try to mind America's business?

*lol* you are too funny.. good day :)

His assumption is not anymore of a leap than your assumptions. It is you that does not have a clue. You are a sworn enemy of my country...and I would happily turn your face into a oozing mass of goo...scum.

Take it easy there Webber. I'm on your side. I don't like the war one bit.. I just feel like throwing gas on the fire tonight.

just be patient.
after bush gets his new cabinet in place they will start up the draft and you all can go over there and make things right.
you will love it.