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theking · 11-15-2004, 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by MrPheer
Talking to you people that are whining about this and havent been in combat yourselves, is like talking to my sister's fuckin kids.

You do not leave an enemy soldier to shoot you in the back. Its war, its not a sunday picnic. If you havent experienced it, then you just have no fucking clue. Its not like what you see in the movies.

You are correct...no fucking clue. It has been reported that Iraqi's have pretended to be wounded/dead to draw our troops in and then have attacked them. It has been reported that Iraqi's have booby trapped their dead so that when moved they will blow up those attempting to move them. When ones life is on the line...one uses their descretion to protect their lives.

In this instance...the troop involved will be duly investigated...with the results being a Courts Martial...or not.

Webby · 11-15-2004, 05:13 PM

andykidd:

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I wish the USA( I don't say "We" because I'm Canadian) weren't there at all- I think its a horrible bloody unnecessary mess... I just can't help but fuel some bloodlust after reading about these 100% innocent women(there to HELP Iraqi's) being abducted, tortured, mutilated and killed.

Agree! The basic question hits back to... what the fuck is the US doing there in the first instance?

We have dumped all rational reasons as having nada cred - like WMD and ties with terrorism etc.

Both sides need to fuck off home and leave the locals in peace to sort out their own affairs, - tho hard to do this now, - it's just a total fuckup once again.

Webby · 11-15-2004, 05:16 PM

theKing:

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You are correct...no fucking clue. It has been reported that Iraqi's have pretended to be wounded/dead to draw our troops in and then have attacked them. It has been reported that Iraqi's have booby trapped their dead so that when moved they will blow up those attempting to move them. When ones life is on the line...one uses their descretion to protect their lives.

Can always rely on King to pull some excuses out of the air as justification for *whatever* in his own mind.

Ya wanna see some premeditated execution by US forces?? You soon will.

Quit whining about others as usual.. they have seen/experienced shit and many have loads of good reasons to kill US forces.

theking · 11-15-2004, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Agree! The basic question hits back to... what the fuck is the US doing there in the first instance?

Easy answer and the answer will always remain the same...because the Administation...the Congress...and the American people deemed it to be in the perceived best interests of the US. When it is no longer perceived to be in the best interests of the US...there will be a withdrawal.

Webby · 11-15-2004, 05:25 PM

theKing:

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Easy answer and the answer will always remain the same...because the Administation...the Congress...and the American people deemed it to be in the perceived best interests of the US.

I wondered why every country does not come out with such utter crap to try and justify their actions.

If I was to take that comment seriously.. first response would be - fuck the US Admin and any house of govt there. They are clearly utterly insane.

The truth is... that picture you painted is not accurate and is the product of your pet idiot in power there. What's new?

On a more serious note... I actually would say "fuck US interests" - they have nada cred on this planet and will obviously be returned with the fruit they have sown.

Thurbs · 11-15-2004, 05:26 PM

i guess thats one incident where playing possum doesnt work.

Stephen · 11-15-2004, 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by Peacemaker
its a kind of warcrime, eh?

No. "Justice."

pornguy · 11-15-2004, 05:29 PM

That is the main reason that the media has no business in there. If you leave that guy there to live and breath and fight another day, he may kill you. If you had a reason to shoot him in the first place. Finish the job with a second bullet.

Peacemaker · 11-15-2004, 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by Stephen
No. "Justice."

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Peacemaker · 11-15-2004, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by pornguy
That is the main reason that the media has no business in there. If you leave that guy there to live and breath and fight another day, he may kill you. If you had a reason to shoot him in the first place. Finish the job with a second bullet.

did you read the story at the url given some posts before? reading your comment i think you did not.
read it

trouserrat · 11-15-2004, 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
MrPheer:

You seriously need to accquaint yourself with war crimes.

It is not acceptable conduct to stuff a bullet in the brain of any prisoner.

How about sawing the head off of a civilian prisoner? Then you're just defending your land against invaders, right?

Joe Citizen · 11-15-2004, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by pornguy
That is the main reason that the media has no business in there.

Yeah, so US troops can get down to the serious business of committing atrocities and war crimes without that pesky media telling the world about it.

That'd be good, wouldn't it?

CybermedAndy · 11-15-2004, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
andykidd:

Agree! The basic question hits back to... what the fuck is the US doing there in the first instance?

We have dumped all rational reasons as having nada cred - like WMD and ties with terrorism etc.

Both sides need to fuck off home and leave the locals in peace to sort out their own affairs, - tho hard to do this now, - it's just a total fuckup once again.

This is true...although sadly its too late to anything except continue to stay and deal with the mess that the USA caused over there.

Why the USA isn't doing this in the mountains of Afghanistan is beyond me...

Peacemaker · 11-15-2004, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by trouserrat
How about sawing the head off of a civilian prisoner? Then you're just defending your land against invaders, right?

so there is no difference between the us army and the rebels?

interesting

NetRodent · 11-15-2004, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by PenisFace
When China and the US is at war, and China has invaded the US.... I'll be sure to call you a terrorist for defending your own country.

Idiot.

MacArthur's not dead. He's just frozen. He had some good ideas for how to deal with the Chinese.

Webby · 11-15-2004, 05:37 PM

pornguy:

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That is the main reason that the media has no business in there.

There is a problem with a lack of accountability, - not just in a war zone.

The media at least provides some highly slanted grain of truth of what is happening in eg Iraq. You can't expect those in bed with forces to be "open" with truth, but it is at least, a level of accountability.

The same shit happened in Vietnam, tho it took long enough afterwards to make it palatable for the US people to see, tho the rest of the world were aware.

Forces of any country are expected to adhere to military code, - else what is the point of any code?? Is that yet just another bit of paper you sign and forget?

If so.. hell.. we might as well just nuke each other and fuck any standards of conduct.

trouserrat · 11-15-2004, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Peacemaker
so there is no difference between the us army and the rebels?

interesting

Of course there is and I did not imply that they were the same in my post. However, I do find it funny for someone like Webby to speak to us on war crimes when his posts on here very nearly defend the actions of the militants in Iraq who are the ones committing true atrocities against civilians, no less.

Interesting...idiot.

Martin · 11-15-2004, 05:37 PM

The kid that shot him probably just watched his buddies face shot off and was looking for a little pay back on some sand nigga ass.. Happens all the time.

maxxxxx · 11-15-2004, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by pornguy
That is the main reason that the media has no business in there. If you leave that guy there to live and breath and fight another day, he may kill you. If you had a reason to shoot him in the first place. Finish the job with a second bullet.

How dumb can you people be? 9/11 has been a terrorist act, committed by non-Americans on American soil. America has attacked Iraq, despite Iraq having nothing to do with 9/11 and not even having WMD's. So guess, who are the terrorists in Iraq?

Argoz · 11-15-2004, 05:40 PM

fucking war....

Peacemaker · 11-15-2004, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by trouserrat
Of course there is and I did not imply that they were the same in my post. However, I do find it funny for someone like Webby to speak to us on war crimes when his posts on here very nearly defend the actions of the militants in Iraq who are the ones committing true atrocities against civilians, no less.

Interesting...idiot.

i was just asking a question, calling me an idiot for this.. well, if it helps you in any way.. thank you.

trouserrat · 11-15-2004, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Peacemaker
i was just asking a question, calling me an idiot for this.. well, if it helps you in any way.. thank you.

You're very welcome. Glad I could educate and interest you. It's the key to our children's success in school: make learning fun.

Webby · 11-15-2004, 05:45 PM

Martin:

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The kid that shot him probably just watched his buddies face shot off and was looking for a little pay back ..

What part of your brain thought up that scenario??

There is no suggestion so far that this was even a possible scenario.

The story so far is that this imbecile arrived on the scene with others and had no clue as to who were "terrorists" or civilians and was made aware the victim was alive and decided to put a bullet in his head.

That honorable US soldier had no clue if that person was innocent or not. He just decided to murder him.

I know who needs their face blown off... tho not even that idiot deserves that.

He is scum.

Peacemaker · 11-15-2004, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by trouserrat
You're very welcome. Glad I could educate and interest you. It's the key to our children's success in school: make learning fun.

you do not need to educate me, dont worry.

ich kann zumindest etwas was du niemals koennen wirst ;)

theking · 11-15-2004, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by maxxxxx
How dumb can you people be? 9/11 has been a terrorist act, committed by non-Americans on American soil. America has attacked Iraq, despite Iraq having nothing to do with 9/11 and not even having WMD's. So guess, who are the terrorists in Iraq?

Ahh...but Saddam was a sworn enemy of Americans and of Americas's ally...his military forces fired almost daily upon American and British forces...he openly supported several terrorist orgs allied against America's ally...he openly called for the killing of Americans where ever they were to be found...thus the Administration...with the support of Congress and the American people decided to take him and his Baathist Party down.

trouserrat · 11-15-2004, 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by Peacemaker
you do not need to educate me, dont worry.

ich kann zumindest etwas was du niemals koennen wirst ;)

And what would that be? Try to mind America's business?

Peacemaker · 11-15-2004, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by trouserrat
And what would that be? Try to mind America's business?

*lol* you are too funny.. good day

theking · 11-15-2004, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Martin:

What part of your brain thought up that scenario??

There is no suggestion so far that this was even a possible scenario.

The story so far is that this imbecile arrived on the scene with others and had no clue as to who were "terrorists" or civilians and was made aware the victim was alive and decided to put a bullet in his head.

That honorable US soldier had no clue if that person was innocent or not. He just decided to murder him.

I know who needs their face blown off... tho not even that idiot deserves that.

He is scum.

His assumption is not anymore of a leap than your assumptions. It is you that does not have a clue. You are a sworn enemy of my country...and I would happily turn your face into a oozing mass of goo...scum.

Martin · 11-15-2004, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Martin:

What part of your brain thought up that scenario??

There is no suggestion so far that this was even a possible scenario.

The story so far is that this imbecile arrived on the scene with others and had no clue as to who were "terrorists" or civilians and was made aware the victim was alive and decided to put a bullet in his head.

That honorable US soldier had no clue if that person was innocent or not. He just decided to murder him.

I know who needs their face blown off... tho not even that idiot deserves that.

He is scum.

Take it easy there Webber. I'm on your side. I don't like the war one bit.. I just feel like throwing gas on the fire tonight.

sumphatpimp · 11-15-2004, 05:53 PM

just be patient.
after bush gets his new cabinet in place they will start up the draft and you all can go over there and make things right.
you will love it.

trouserrat · 11-15-2004, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by Peacemaker
*lol* you are too funny.. good day

Thank you. Now hurry, you might be able to catch Old Europe's fall into complete obsolescence. It's not far off.

Webby · 11-15-2004, 05:54 PM

maxxxxx:

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Ahh...but Saddam was a sworn enemy of Americans and of Americas's ally...

Yea maxxxxx... you hit that nail on the head with the question..

"How dumb can you people be?"

The answer is EXTREMELY DUMB.

PS.. I wonder who did all the "swearing" to be some enemy? Was that some US idiot you are referring to King or am I to imagine Saddam did some "oaths" and "swearing" to be an enemy of the US.

Hell.. ya got enemies crawling up the walls and under your bed there...

Must be a leftover of communism or something, sure is a disease.

maxxxxx · 11-15-2004, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by theking
Ahh...but Saddam was a sworn enemy of Americans and of Americas's ally...his military forces fired almost daily upon American and British forces...he openly supported several terrorist orgs allied against America's ally...he openly called for the killing of Americans where ever they were to be found...thus the Administration...with the support of Congress and the American people decided to take him and his Baathist Party down.

Sorry, I don't get it. Are you just ironic here or do you believe what you say? Where do you get your info from? Foxnews?

Peacemaker · 11-15-2004, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by Webby

"How dumb can you people be?"
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College Park, MD: Even after the final report of Charles Duelfer to Congress saying that Iraq did not have a significant WMD program, 72% of Bush supporters continue to believe that Iraq had actual WMD (47%) or a major program for developing them (25%). Fifty-six percent assume that most experts believe Iraq had actual WMD and 57% also assume, incorrectly, that Duelfer concluded Iraq had at least a major WMD program

theking · 11-15-2004, 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by maxxxxx
Sorry, I don't get it. Are you just ironic here or do you believe what you say? Where do you get your info from? Foxnews?

Stating fact kid.

Webby · 11-15-2004, 05:59 PM

Martin:

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Take it easy there Webber. I'm on your side. I don't like the war one bit.. I just feel like throwing gas on the fire tonight.

At least it might actually make some folks think.

They often have a hard time doing that and knowing there is more to this world that just them

Webby · 11-15-2004, 06:05 PM

Peacemaker:

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College Park, MD: Even after the final report of Charles Duelfer to Congress saying that Iraq did not have a significant WMD program, 72% of Bush supporters continue to believe that Iraq had actual WMD (47%) or a major program for developing them (25%). Fifty-six percent assume that most experts believe Iraq had actual WMD and 57% also assume, incorrectly, that Duelfer concluded Iraq had at least a major WMD program

Frightening thought.... and sad.

I suspect people believe what they want to believe and that this is often "fogged up" in the US by some party political crap and whether you support some party or not.

Looks like there is nada balance on any reality and a great ease with the use of labels for almost any subject, conservative, insurgent, coalition, liberal, terrorist blah. Shit for simple minds and makes it easy to create an "us" and "them" :-)

Hence.. loads of "sworn enemies" :-)

Sambo · 11-15-2004, 06:08 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by theking
His assumption is not anymore of a leap than your assumptions. It is you that does not have a clue. You are a sworn enemy of my country...and I would happily turn your face into a oozing mass of goo...scum. [/QUOTE

Its not an assumption...... I just watched the video

Its what happened

The guy laughed when he had done it...... and cracked a joke

Sickening

Peacemaker · 11-15-2004, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Peacemaker:

Frightening thought.... and sad.

I suspect people believe what they want to believe and that this is often "fogged up" in the US by some party political crap and whether you support some party or not.

Looks like there is nada balance on any reality and a great ease with the use of labels for almost any subject, conservative, insurgent, coalition blah. Shit for simple minds :-)

no comment. the report says it all

http://www.yubanet.com/artman/publis...le_14657.shtml

if you want to read more about it

Webby · 11-15-2004, 06:17 PM

Peacemaker:

Sheesh...

Even if you allow a 20% margin of error, - it's damning! :-)

Hell.. with that level of non-awareness, why bother even chatting with em??

They are past any sane level of reasonable judgement until proven otherwise

I can see why God needs to bless the US a little more than others...

strats · 11-15-2004, 06:21 PM

This is perferctly justified.

If he wanted to live, he should have stood aside with his hands up until he was captured.

He could have been holding a gun under there, or worse (but in actuality, none) a bomb with a trigger in his hand.

The soldiers action was correct given the situation.

summary:

maxxxxx · 11-15-2004, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Peacemaker:

Sheesh...

Even if you allow a 20% margin of error, - it's damning! :-)

Hell.. with that level of non-awareness, why bother even chatting with em??

They are past any sane level of reasonable judgement until proven otherwise

I can see why God needs to bless the US a little more than others...

Peacemaker · 11-15-2004, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by strats
This is perferctly justified.

If he wanted to live, he should have stood aside with his hands up until he was captured.

He could have been holding a gun under there, or worse (but in actuality, none) a bomb with a trigger in his hand.

The soldiers action was correct given the situation.

summary:

or maybe a little nuke in his pocket.. who knows ;)

11-15-2004, 06:23 PM

For anyone looking for the video it is on CBSnews.com in the video section under the title "Mosque Tragedy", although they censor the actually shooting.

Peacemaker · 11-15-2004, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Peacemaker:

Sheesh...

Even if you allow a 20% margin of error, - it's damning! :-)

Hell.. with that level of non-awareness, why bother even chatting with em??

They are past any sane level of reasonable judgement until proven otherwise

I can see why God needs to bless the US a little more than others...

i agree with you

but .. you can try.. maybe there is hope

Rochard · 11-15-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Imagine what the reaction of the blind pro-war patriots would be if it was a US marine being executed by a gunshot to the back of the head by an 'insurgent'?

They'd be screeching like little girls.

Now watch them say how it's justified and a good thing.

But it's perfectly acceptable for them to kidnap someone who's not even in the military and chop off their head?

While I agree that this is wrong, I can only have so much pitty on these guys.

Marcus Aurelius · 11-15-2004, 06:33 PM

what pisses me off about this whole situation is, this is war. thats why they call it war. I kill you before you kill me. what did people think we were firing out of those guns? candy?

People on CNN talking about it as scandalous and outrageous. Fucking morons. It's war, shit happens, so a camera happened to be there, now the jesus freaks are all up in arms because the moron they voted for would allow soldiers to, oh, god forbid..KILL PEOPLE!

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Martin · 11-15-2004, 06:34 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_vi...LC=eveningnews

woj · 11-15-2004, 06:34 PM

100 wounded militants...

Centurion · 11-15-2004, 06:44 PM

The operative word here is "prisoner"!
You do NOT execute prisoners.
It IS that simple.

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Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Peacemaker: Sheesh... Even if you allow a 20% margin of error, - it's damning! :-) Hell.. with that level of non-awareness, why bother even chatting with em?? They are past any sane level of reasonable judgement until proven otherwise I can see why God needs to bless the US a little more than others... __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat. Last edited by Webby; 11-15-2004 at 06:18 PM..

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11-15-2004, 05:53 PM	#80
sumphatpimp Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,235	just be patient. after bush gets his new cabinet in place they will start up the draft and you all can go over there and make things right. you will love it.

11-15-2004, 06:08 PM	#88
Sambo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,187	[QUOTE]Originally posted by theking His assumption is not anymore of a leap than your assumptions. It is you that does not have a clue. You are a sworn enemy of my country...and I would happily turn your face into a oozing mass of goo...scum. [/QUOTE Its not an assumption...... I just watched the video Its what happened The guy laughed when he had done it...... and cracked a joke Sickening

11-15-2004, 06:21 PM	#91
strats Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,805	This is perferctly justified. If he wanted to live, he should have stood aside with his hands up until he was captured. He could have been holding a gun under there, or worse (but in actuality, none) a bomb with a trigger in his hand. The soldiers action was correct given the situation. summary:

11-15-2004, 06:23 PM	#94
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	For anyone looking for the video it is on CBSnews.com in the video section under the title "Mosque Tragedy", although they censor the actually shooting.

11-15-2004, 06:33 PM	#97
Marcus Aurelius No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14,809	what pisses me off about this whole situation is, this is war. thats why they call it war. I kill you before you kill me. what did people think we were firing out of those guns? candy? People on CNN talking about it as scandalous and outrageous. Fucking morons. It's war, shit happens, so a camera happened to be there, now the jesus freaks are all up in arms because the moron they voted for would allow soldiers to, oh, god forbid..KILL PEOPLE! [/rant]

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Centurion Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SeATtle Posts: 6,033	The operative word here is "prisoner"! You do NOT execute prisoners. It IS that simple. __________________