Man this kids going to get into shit for this one. Just showed it on CNN. Wounded militant laying with his back against the wall. You can here the soldiers saying he's faking being dead and he's still breathing. He then walks up and shoots him in the head. Stupid kid should of told the fucker with the camera to turn it off first.
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ln -s chalk cheeseOriginally posted by Jesus H Christ
He should of stood behind him and rambled some shit..then cut his head off.
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its a kind of warcrime, eh?SEO since 2002 - Google Index Record: 32 minutes. - Selling SEO services and toolsComment
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Originally posted by Martin
I don't think he's going to get in shit. For what?
I'm no military expert but I'm pretty sure that your not allowed to execute an enemy combatant on the spot if they are out of the fight.
I have no problem with what he did though. You better believe if some fucker was just trying to kill me it would be on until one of us wasn't breathing anymore.Comment
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Imagine what the reaction of the blind pro-war patriots would be if it was a US marine being executed by a gunshot to the back of the head by an 'insurgent'?
They'd be screeching like little girls.
Now watch them say how it's justified and a good thing.Comment
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right...Originally posted by yys
I'm no military expert but I'm pretty sure that your not allowed to execute an enemy combatant on the spot if they are out of the fight.
I have no problem with what he did though. You better believe if some fucker was just trying to kill me it would be on until one of us wasn't breathing anymore.
but...
I agree....Originally posted by MrPheer
Its war people.
If the guy wasnt surrendering, hes still a target. You dont leave enemy soldiers alive so they can shoot you in the back.
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wonder how you would surrender if you the only thing you can do is to keep on breathing..SEO since 2002 - Google Index Record: 32 minutes. - Selling SEO services and toolsComment
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its sad to see so many people on here have no clue about stuff their talking about. its a warcrime.. get it.
you say what you want. its still a war crime.SEO since 2002 - Google Index Record: 32 minutes. - Selling SEO services and toolsComment
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I was watching CNN when they played this, and though they went to black-screen before the moment of execution, they continued with the audio.
Them story was as follows:
US soldiers had on a previous day secured a Mosque, which was now occupied by wounded Iraqis. It was not made clear if these were wounded civilians or wounded rebels. A new group of soldiers arrived and, based on their recorded conversation, did not seem to know exactly who these wounded people were either; in the video they appeared in very bad shape; the iraqi guy in the foreground looked elderly. There was no movement. The US soldiers are inspecting them as they lay on the floor, when one of the soldiers suddenly calls out that he suspects an iraqi of "playing dead" ("he's still breathing!") and empties his machine gun into him. It was unsual, and there was no obvious explaination for it.Comment
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You think walking up to anyone, whether in a war situation or not, and shooting them in the head is OK???Man this kids going to get into shit for this one. Just showed it on CNN. Wounded militant laying with his back against the wall. You can here the soldiers saying he's faking being dead and he's still breathing. He then walks up and shoots him in the head. Stupid kid should of told the fucker with the camera to turn it off first.
News... that is murder in a civilian situation and a war crime otherwise.
This is not some "exclusive" - there are plenty more images to be released yet. The majority don't look good.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Talking to you people that are whining about this and havent been in combat yourselves, is like talking to my sister's fuckin kids.Originally posted by titmowse
No. You take them prisoner.
You do not leave an enemy soldier to shoot you in the back. Its war, its not a sunday picnic. If you havent experienced it, then you just have no fucking clue. Its not like what you see in the movies.Comment
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CamChicks:
Who knows - given a chance the Pentagon will lie either way.US soldiers had on a previous day secured a Mosque, which was now occupied by wounded Iraqis. It was not made clear if these were wounded civilians or wounded rebels. A new group of soldiers arrived and, based on their recorded conversation, did not seem to know exactly who these wounded people were either; in the video they appeared in very bad shape; the iraqi guy in the foreground looked elderly. There was no movement. The US soldiers are inspecting them as they lay on the floor, when one of the soldiers suddenly calls out that he suspects an iraqi of "playing dead" ("he's still breating!") and empties his machine gun into him. It was unsual, and there was no obvious explaination for it.
But if that has a grain of truth - it's even worse and worthy of a real trial, - not some US military court bs.
There are plenty images that have not been released yet involving prior operations, - I've seen some from months back. It will be more than hard for the Pentagon to deny what is staring them in the face.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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LONDON (Reuters) - A television pool report by U.S. network NBC said on Monday that a U.S. Marine had shot dead an unarmed and wounded Iraqi prisoner in a mosque in Falluja.SEO since 2002 - Google Index Record: 32 minutes. - Selling SEO services and toolsComment
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Originally posted by MrPheer
Talking to you people that are whining about this and havent been in combat yourselves, is like talking to my sister's fuckin kids.
You do not leave an enemy soldier to shoot you in the back. Its war, its not a sunday picnic. If you havent experienced it, then you just have no fucking clue. Its not like what you see in the movies.
Yep.....
I find it odd.... that if reported on CNN I can't seem to find a link to this anywhere.....
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Originally posted by Peacemaker
LONDON (Reuters) - A television pool report by U.S. network NBC said on Monday that a U.S. Marine had shot dead an unarmed and wounded Iraqi prisoner in a mosque in Falluja.
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ne_shooting_dcOriginally posted by BlingDaddy
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MrPheer:
You seriously need to accquaint yourself with war crimes.You do not leave an enemy soldier to shoot you in the back. Its war, its not a sunday picnic.
It is not acceptable conduct to stuff a bullet in the brain of any prisoner.
There are possible situations where immediate action is needed in self-defense. This is clearly not such a situation.
It is a war crime.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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So why don't you point me to where it says in the military code that you execute a wounded enemy without orders?Originally posted by MrPheer
Talking to you people that are whining about this and havent been in combat yourselves, is like talking to my sister's fuckin kids.
You do not leave an enemy soldier to shoot you in the back. Its war, its not a sunday picnic. If you havent experienced it, then you just have no fucking clue. Its not like what you see in the movies.I still love everybodyComment
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Originally posted by BlingDaddy
www.cbsnews.com ?
no, on the TV. I'm looking on the site for it though.Comment
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Boo fucking Hoo. War crime my ass.
As its been repeated here, Its War People. The US is there to capture of kill the insurgents.
I don't agree with the US being there but I'm not gonna bitch and moan about something like this.
I feel all the better about it after reading about how the troops are coming across torture chambers and found 2 murdered women(one with blonde hair- the other likely that aid worker that was abducted). The blonde woman had her LEGS and ARMS CUT OFF and her THROAT SLIT.
So waa waa waa the soldier shot the poor poor Iraqi. Fuck him.
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Your right !!! Kill them all ...Originally posted by andykidd
Boo fucking Hoo. War crime my ass.
As its been repeated here, Its War People. The US is there to capture of kill the insurgents.
I don't agree with the US being there but I'm not gonna bitch and moan about something like this.
I feel all the better about it after reading about how the troops are coming across torture chambers and found 2 murdered women(one with blonde hair- the other likely that aid worker that was abducted). The blonde woman had her LEGS and ARMS CUT OFF and her THROAT SLIT.
So waa waa waa the soldier shot the poor poor Iraqi. Fuck him.
I never understood why the Iraqis didn't kill Jessica Lynch .... ????
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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The irony is that the insurgents are using the exact same "logic" when they behead people.Originally posted by andykidd
Boo fucking Hoo. War crime my ass.
As its been repeated here, Its War People. The US is there to capture of kill the insurgents.
I don't agree with the US being there but I'm not gonna bitch and moan about something like this.
I feel all the better about it after reading about how the troops are coming across torture chambers and found 2 murdered women(one with blonde hair- the other likely that aid worker that was abducted). The blonde woman had her LEGS and ARMS CUT OFF and her THROAT SLIT.
So waa waa waa the soldier shot the poor poor Iraqi. Fuck him.
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andykidd:
It is clear you need to be on the recieving end to appreciate the difference between military code and a war crime.Boo fucking Hoo. War crime my ass.
As its been repeated here, Its War People. The US is there to capture of kill the insurgents.
You feel like the same treatment by others in your neighborhood?
If you consider this to be some "all out war" and dump all common standards and kill everyone, fine. You deserve nada consideration and everything you would probably get in that situation.
That stupid comment is even worse when you consider those labelled "insurgents" are clearly not "terrorists", but Iraqi people fighting to kick the US out of that country.
There is little doubt they will be successful in the end.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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You're probably rightOriginally posted by punkworld
The irony is that the insurgents are using the exact same "logic" when they behead people.Comment
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To clarify before the below, I'm not one of those people against the war who think the US is 'evil' and all our soldiers are 'baby killers', etc. I hate that shit. Blaming the soldiers has always been petty in my mind, as well as factually ridiculous. They don't call the shots, and do the best they can to survive.Originally posted by andykidd
Boo fucking Hoo. War crime my ass.
As its been repeated here, Its War People. The US is there to capture of kill the insurgents.
I don't agree with the US being there but I'm not gonna bitch and moan about something like this.
I feel all the better about it after reading about how the troops are coming across torture chambers and found 2 murdered women(one with blonde hair- the other likely that aid worker that was abducted). The blonde woman had her LEGS and ARMS CUT OFF and her THROAT SLIT.
So waa waa waa the soldier shot the poor poor Iraqi. Fuck him.
However... the entire point of creating a code of conduct for civilized nations is to differentiate us from them. If you think we should look to the terrorists to set the example, then you need to rethink things, IMO.
I personally plan to wait until all the facts are out before passing judgement on this kid. We weren't there, and we don't know. BUT - if it ends up that he shot someone without a weapon, who posed no threat, then I'm afraid I would have no problem with him being in trouble.
We're not barbarians, and it's not a free for all. We don't behead captives, and we don't shoot unarmed, injured combatants. Why? Because we're better than that, and hold ourselves up to a higher standard, period. What the other side does is not our barometer of acceptable response.Comment
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I wish the USA( I don't say "We" because I'm Canadian) weren't there at all- I think its a horrible bloody unnecessary mess... I just can't help but fuel some bloodlust after reading about these 100% innocent women(there to HELP Iraqi's) being abducted, tortured, mutilated and killed.Originally posted by Webby
andykidd:
It is clear you need to be on the recieving end to appreciate the difference between military code and a war crime.
You feel like the same treatment by others in your neighborhood?
If you consider this to be some "all out war" and dump all common standards and kill everyone, fine. You deserve nada consideration and everything you would probably get in that situation.
That stupid comment is even worse when you consider those labelled "insurgents" are clearly not "terrorists", but Iraqi people fighting to kick the US out of that country.
There is little doubt they will be successful in the end.Comment
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codymc12:
Agree with the rest of your post!We're not barbarians, and it's not a free for all. We don't behead captives, and we don't shoot unarmed, injured combatants. Why? Because we're better than that, and hold ourselves up to a higher standard, period. What the other side does is not our barometer of acceptable response.
The fact is, it is a very small element who do stuff like beheading, and they deserve to be tried and executed themselves.
The rest of the "fighters", whether on the Iraqi side or the US forces, conduct themselves as best they can.
Both sides claim to be fighting for a cause, - some have more just causes than others, - but there never was an "excuse" for war crimes on either side.XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.Comment
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Nicely said. This is pretty much how I feel about it. Also it should be said that soldiers are trained killers. The responsibly of sending them to kill is the big question. When we send our soldiers to kill it should be with good reason. So it all kinda comes full circle to the people that decided to send them. If this soldier executed a defenseless person he'll be brought to trial.Originally posted by codymc12
To clarify before the below, I'm not one of those people against the war who think the US is 'evil' and all our soldiers are 'baby killers', etc. I hate that shit. Blaming the soldiers has always been petty in my mind, as well as factually ridiculous. They don't call the shots, and do the best they can to survive.
However... the entire point of creating a code of conduct for civilized nations is to differentiate us from them. If you think we should look to the terrorists to set the example, then you need to rethink things, IMO.
I personally plan to wait until all the facts are out before passing judgement on this kid. We weren't there, and we don't know. BUT - if it ends up that he shot someone without a weapon, who posed no threat, then I'm afraid I would have no problem with him being in trouble.
We're not barbarians, and it's not a free for all. We don't behead captives, and we don't shoot unarmed, injured combatants. Why? Because we're better than that, and hold ourselves up to a higher standard, period. What the other side does is not our barometer of acceptable response.Comment
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Originally posted by project_naughty
When China and the US is at war, and China has invaded the US.... I'll be sure to call you a terrorist for defending your own country.
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War crime? No, just America teaching the world democracy, Christianity and civil rights. They'll get honoured by Big George Himself.
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Originally posted by PenisFace
When China and the US is at war, and China has invaded the US.... I'll be sure to call you a terrorist for defending your own country.
Idiot.
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