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Old 11-03-2004, 05:17 PM   #1
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Vote or die, Eminem mosh, Stick to Entertainment!

All the media hype behind their so called Bush bashing vote or die for Kerry was about the equivalent of pop rocks in the 1980's! ?Ask mikee he liked it? Young voters just don't give a damn as long as the college they are going to has great parties they are set. Next time they should give them a twelve pack for your vote and they will be out in record #'s
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Listen here kid this is not a game to me and I'd eat my words after you eat my fist. Don't take it so personal it's just a message board
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Funny and true.

For all of the hype and push....the percentages from 18 to 24 that voted this year was THE SAME that it was in 2000..... about 10%


It also cracks me up how high-level actors in Hollywood, who make millions but have never had to actually build a company and work 12 hours a day six days a week (average work time of the top 5% in the US), for years and years, never dealt with hiring, firing, thousands of government regulations on their business, etc, etc.... but instead work 4 months a year for 10 million dollars....

It's funny how they really think that they have the ear of the "people" and can influence an election.
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Listen here kid this is not a game to me and I'd eat my words after you eat my fist. Don't take it so personal it's just a message board
not for nothing your exact words were
"Young voters just don't give a damn as long as the college they are going to has great parties they are set"


...you are wrong. we have to live in this country just like you, and we understand what we are voting for... yes, there are those tools out there who vote just because eminem said so, but thats not every one of them... our votes effect our lives, we are not going to make it a joke... that joke could be the reason one of us has to go over seas and lose our lifes...


so dont take it so personal, its just a message board
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not for nothing your exact words were
"Young voters just don't give a damn as long as the college they are going to has great parties they are set"


...you are wrong. we have to live in this country just like you, and we understand what we are voting for... yes, there are those tools out there who vote just because eminem said so, but thats not every one of them... our votes effect our lives, we are not going to make it a joke... that joke could be the reason one of us has to go over seas and lose our lifes...


so dont take it so personal, its just a message board
So then why did only 10% of them vote.....just like in 2000?

(not trying to confront you.....I'm honestly interested in why...)
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Funny and true.


It's funny how they really think that they have the ear of the "people" and can influence an election.
You know what I am saying. I love Eminem as an artist but what the fuck does a poor white kid from a trailer park know about politics and a high school education? about as much as I know and thats not saying much! As for P-diddy... No coment
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Funny and true.

For all of the hype and push....the percentages from 18 to 24 that voted this year was THE SAME that it was in 2000..... about 10%


It also cracks me up how high-level actors in Hollywood, who make millions but have never had to actually build a company and work 12 hours a day six days a week (average work time of the top 5% in the US), for years and years, never dealt with hiring, firing, thousands of government regulations on their business, etc, etc.... but instead work 4 months a year for 10 million dollars....

It's funny how they really think that they have the ear of the "people" and can influence an election.
Hmmm... I get where you're coming from re: the actors, but I'm not sure I agree. Do you think Arnold would have been elected Governator without his celebrity?

There's a long history of artists becoming involved in elections, on both sides. I welcome it. They could just sit back and do nothing - instead, they put forth an effort, which is commendable on the part of any citizen, democrat or republican.
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So then why did only 10% of them vote.....just like in 2000?

(not trying to confront you.....I'm honestly interested in why...)

because just like when your age group were kids, most of them didnt care to vote, but there is the select few who do.
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You know what I am saying. I love Eminem as an artist but what the fuck does a poor white kid from a trailer park know about politics and a high school education? about as much as I know and thats not saying much! As for P-diddy... No coment
EXACTLY....... on all counts.
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EXACTLY....... on all counts.
Wrong. They are supremely qualified. Why? Because they are citizens of the United States. That's the point of the election process - a PHD and a high school dropout have exactly the same say: 1 vote.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not championing celebs per se. But I think any citizen who makes the time to promote the candidate they back, without recompense, is doing a good thing.

Not talking Dem/Repub here - either way it goes - a citizen becoming very involved in the election process is commendable, not something to hold up to scorn.

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Wrong. They are supremely qualified. Why? Because they are citizens of the United States. That's the point of the election process - a PHD and a high school dropout have exactly the same say: 1 vote.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not championing celebs per se. But I think any citizen who makes the time to promote the candidate they back, without recompense, is doing a good thing.

Not talking Dem/Repub here - either way it goes - a citizen becoming very involved in the election process is commendable, not something to hold up to scorn.

Just my

Good points.... I think what we are saying is that it is funny how revered their opinions are by the media, as if the ability to rap or play pretend (act) gives one a special insight into world events.




and BTW, as far as no recompense is concerned.....BELIEVE me, the publicity is GREAT for their careers. It's ALWAYS good to be in the news.
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not for nothing your exact words were
"Young voters just don't give a damn as long as the college they are going to has great parties they are set"


...you are wrong. we have to live in this country just like you, and we understand what we are voting for... yes, there are those tools out there who vote just because eminem said so, but thats not every one of them... our votes effect our lives, we are not going to make it a joke... that joke could be the reason one of us has to go over seas and lose our lifes...


so dont take it so personal, its just a message board

And so is the same for those who volunteered to serve and protect this wonderful country. I voted for Kerry but I believe in what we are fighting for in Iraq. I don't think Kerry would have been able to come thru with a 10th of what he delivered but he leaves us with hope for change and without that we need to stick by our guns and support the President. We are safe and more secure since 9-11.. The election is over and so is all these entertainment fools making them selves look good on a political stage! Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel, & Bon Jovi were all played out when I was in grade school
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Good points.... I think what we are saying is that it is funny how revered their opinions are by the media, as if the ability to rap or play pretend (act) gives one a special insight into world events.




and BTW, as far as no recompense is concerned.....BELIEVE me, the publicity is GREAT for their careers. It's ALWAYS good to be in the news.
Sure, I do understand what you're saying. I'm definately not saying they have special insight.

I just look at it as them doing their 'preaching'. Some people look to their pastors, some look to their favorite actor/rockstar, etc. Most, hopefully, examine the issues... but hey, whatever gets them thinking about voting.

I voted for Kerry, but regardless of the outcome, one thing I remain excited about was the voter turnout. Nice to see Americans involved in the democratic process 'in bulk'.
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Good points.... I think what we are saying is that it is funny how revered their opinions are by the media, as if the ability to rap or play pretend (act) gives one a special insight into world events.




and BTW, as far as no recompense is concerned.....BELIEVE me, the publicity is GREAT for their careers. It's ALWAYS good to be in the news.
Eminem did more than make a publicity stunt... He may be hiding out from the Secret Service for that Video.... Far fetch! LMAO I wouldnt feel safe bashing the neighborhood bully
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what people need to say is that: young voters as a GENRAL category don't vote

when you say young voters don't vote it offends the pitiful 10% that do...

but I bet the 10% that did vote barely did anything to push the 90% that didn't

i asked my buddy who is in college and voted what he did to motivate the others that were registered and were not planning on voting, he said nothing really, jsut talked to them

you know what they did here? anyone that voted and got the little I Voted sticker got in free to almost any club in Atlanta yesterday...and there were some pretty insane events going on...and if you didn't have the sticker the cover was double...i think this is a great idea...create events that people feel they HAVE to go to cause they are that good, and the only way to get in, is if you voted
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Good points.... I think what we are saying is that it is funny how revered their opinions are by the media, as if the ability to rap or play pretend (act) gives one a special insight into world events.




and BTW, as far as no recompense is concerned.....BELIEVE me, the publicity is GREAT for their careers. It's ALWAYS good to be in the news.
that is kind of silly....if you read anything about that vide you would know that eminem has learned a lot about something in the past year that he never really bothered to learn about before and it enraged him.....and he turned to the one media outlet that he knew he could make a difference with, his music and videos...

whether you want to believe it or not, when he writes or directs, people watch it...and I commend him for building such a controversial character within himself...and I am sure glad he is doing something right with it

you may not like him, and I barely like him anymore, but he did more good with that video than anyone could ever imagine
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I found a new way for women to make a tittie job more useful for the male partner....... Whats wrong?
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I've been laughing my ass off for months. People actually believed the youth of America would come vote in record numbers. It's even funnier that people are shocked they didn't.
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i am not shocked, just disapppointed

what fucks with me the most is the amount of people that will show up for a free p diddy concert, get the free t-shirt that says vote or die....and then not show up to the polls....millions of people went to his voting shindigs...but barely any of them really went and voted
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for all you know Bush would have won by 60% overall if it weren't for songs like Mosh ......
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We are going to be at Club Jade tonight in S. Beach with the Whole Roc A Fella Family . They just rolled into town and are ready to party. The bus will be parked out front around 11 ... Gimme a call .
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BT ... Where ya been ?
We are going to be at Club Jade tonight in S. Beach with the Whole Roc A Fella Family . They just rolled into town and are ready to party. The bus will be parked out front around 11 ... Gimme a call .
Wow you are hardcore brother. It's mid week for me and I can't go out and wreck shop on the week days. Thanks for the invite
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Ya shit is going to be rough over the next few days . They are doing the show in Mia on Fri Jay Z wont be in till fri but he sent his boys down tonight .
And guess who they called to show them a good time The only place I could find to take em was club jade . It will be funny as hell it is an open mic night for Rap Artists . And Im bringing in Jay Z's group .. lol
Tonight is going to be crazy We are filming with them all week so I will post clips tomorrow .. Plus I got your back fro the FRI show ..
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Ya shit is going to be rough over the next few days . They are doing the show in Mia on Fri Jay Z wont be in till fri but he sent his boys down tonight .
And guess who they called to show them a good time The only place I could find to take em was club jade . It will be funny as hell it is an open mic night for Rap Artists . And Im bringing in Jay Z's group .. lol
Tonight is going to be crazy We are filming with them all week so I will post clips tomorrow .. Plus I got your back fro the FRI show ..
Always looking out........ Keep up the good work cuz you are a marketing machine, Press On
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Ya Fri is going to be sick they Added P Diddy to the bill and a few other guests . I will know more tonight , Looks like we are switching from filming rockers to rappers....
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what fucks with me the most is the amount of people that will show up for a free p diddy concert, get the free t-shirt that says vote or die....and then not show up to the polls....millions of people went to his voting shindigs...but barely any of them really went and voted
Such is the nature of youth. The term "young and care free" came from somewhere.
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I bet ya if Shug Night was in charge of Vote or Die it would have worked. Just ask Vanallia Ice......
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Draft is gonna come...

The election was a fraud.
Unbelievable that so many people are fooled into believing the election was fair and true numbers.

Once you accept it was frauded you might view what America was and what it has become and realise America's worst enemy for the next 4 years and then some will be itself.
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Suge Knight gets out of prison soon doesn't he? Or is he already out now?
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The election was a fraud.
Unbelievable that so many people are fooled into believing the election was fair and true numbers.

Once you accept it was frauded you might view what America was and what it has become and realise America's worst enemy for the next 4 years and then some will be itself.
I hope not. My prediction is we will restore their values and be out when Iraq can handle it's own. But It will never end so the UN is going to protect and serve to eliminate terrorist world wide for as long as we have ignorance.
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:32 PM   #37
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Actually tool is one of my favorite groups.................. Contrary to popular belief I am a CYBORG. Stuck in time travel: feels-hot
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:35 PM   #38
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There is not a chance in Hell Iraq will be restored.

It is not going to happen. I am glad people are optimistic but really, it won't happen.

More people will die, the body count will continue on both sides.

I do not understand why people think the Arab world will change to American Laws or Democracy. Thats such a ridiculous fantasy.

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Old 11-03-2004, 08:36 PM   #39
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All the media hype behind their so called Bush bashing vote or die for Kerry was about the equivalent of pop rocks in the 1980's! ?Ask mikee he liked it? Young voters just don't give a damn as long as the college they are going to has great parties they are set. Next time they should give them a twelve pack for your vote and they will be out in record #'s
the young americans should give a fuck cuz most of them are gonna end up in IRAQ, 2 fucking bad kids gonna die cuz of this
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Actually tool is one of my favorite groups.................. Contrary to popular belief I am a CYBORG. Stuck in time travel: feels-hot
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the young americans should give a fuck cuz most of them are gonna end up in IRAQ, 2 fucking bad kids gonna die cuz of this

Or Korea, or Iran, or somthing along those lines.
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:39 PM   #42
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the young americans should give a fuck cuz most of them are gonna end up in IRAQ, 2 fucking bad kids gonna die cuz of this
They should but they don't because they're pampered and spoiled. Fashion, reality tv, movie stars, and cars are what's important to them. Most of them know nothing else and think of nothing else.
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Listen here kid this is not a game to me and I'd eat my words after you eat my fist. Don't take it so personal it's just a message board
Am I the only one who sees the contradictions here? "I'd eat my words after you eat my fist. Don't take it so personal it's just a message board"
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Am I the only one who sees the contradictions here? "I'd eat my words after you eat my fist. Don't take it so personal it's just a message board"
sorry... I got caught up in the moment
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Suge Knight gets out of prison soon doesn't he? Or is he already out now?
Already out.... I saw him on Animal planet. Razor back Gorilla special, I don't have a prejudice bone in my body but he is in that family. I ran across him on Ft. Lauderdale beach and he is huge. Most Def. I would have shit my pants if he held me 10 stories by my feet. I am sure you would sign anything at that point. But carma is a mother fucker
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