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Old 10-31-2004, 11:44 AM   #1
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What did you think of the Bin Laden tape?

I think Bin Laden was beeing clear in it.

He says 9/11 happenned because of Israel vs. Palestine.

That's what so many experts we're saying. It is 100% the only reason according to Bin Laden.

Now, we have to ask ourselves, why didn't the Bush administration ever mention that possibility? Did they know and not want to speak?

Was it true like some people claim that Israel knew ahead of time but said nothing?

I have always been one to say that instead of retaliating and making things worse, after these attacks the USA should have taken a step back and asked itself, why did this happen?

How can we prevent this from happenning again?

Answer: Stop being international bullies and if we do have to police the world, at least do it in a fair way.

no?
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Old 10-31-2004, 11:49 AM   #2
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Bush is not telling american people the truth.
They know for sure why 9/11 happenned and they are hiding it from the american people in order to justify their war on terror.
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I think It's just bin ladens way of saying shit is about to happen...
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Old 10-31-2004, 11:56 AM   #4
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I think It's just bin ladens way of saying shit is about to happen...
imagine Bush beeing elected and a terror attack coming right after.

Imagine how bad that would look for him.
Him having said I will protect you, Kerry won't.
Nothing has happenned in the last 3 years, blablabla.

Do you smell an "overthrown government"?
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Old 10-31-2004, 11:56 AM   #5
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He also said it was also about the US supporting Israel when they attacked Lebanon in '82. He saw them knock down the towers there, so he decided to knock down the towers in america.
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Old 10-31-2004, 11:59 AM   #6
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ur all doomed doomed i tell ya,

p.s. dont come running to canada when shits goes down


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ofcourse bush and his administration know more, + I dont like the timing of these 2 last tapes... everyone predicted it, everyone!
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isnt he usually up in the mountains with some goats and stuff, now hes in some room
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isnt he usually up in the mountains with some goats and stuff, now hes in some room
he's probably in Pakistan or some building in Afghanistan.

The whole capture Bin Laden thing is bullshit.

The Bush people know it.

The SECOND he is captured, nobody in the USA will keep supporting a war on terror such as the war in Iraq.
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you're fucking retarded, that's what the bin laden video has told me after reading this bullshit

you think he's somehow any different than bush, they're the same people
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If Bush has been so wonderful protecting us why is Bin Laden still able to broadcast?

More important listen to the message, something Americans don't seem to get. We are programmed in school to believe we are such a great country. We are the economic imperialists of the world. We are not territory grabbers, we stopped that after Cuba and the Phillipines. We economic imperialists try to control puppet goverments to our advantage while raping the resources of nations.

We need to pratice some of what we preach and leave other nations to their own nation building and let them create the institutions they want.

Invading Iraq was a costly diversion that will not soon end. We gave Bin Laden everything he had hoped to get and more. The muslim world is now untied against the US.
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If Bush has been so wonderful protecting us why is Bin Laden still able to broadcast?

More important listen to the message, something Americans don't seem to get. We are programmed in school to believe we are such a great country. We are the economic imperialists of the world. We are not territory grabbers, we stopped that after Cuba and the Phillipines. We economic imperialists try to control puppet goverments to our advantage while raping the resources of nations.

We need to pratice some of what we preach and leave other nations to their own nation building and let them create the institutions they want.

Invading Iraq was a costly diversion that will not soon end. We gave Bin Laden everything he had hoped to get and more. The muslim world is now untied against the US.
ah but muslims loved us before iraq didn't they

another day another tard theory
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If Bush has been so wonderful protecting us why is Bin Laden still able to broadcast?

More important listen to the message, something Americans don't seem to get. We are programmed in school to believe we are such a great country. We are the economic imperialists of the world. We are not territory grabbers, we stopped that after Cuba and the Phillipines. We economic imperialists try to control puppet goverments to our advantage while raping the resources of nations.

We need to pratice some of what we preach and leave other nations to their own nation building and let them create the institutions they want.

Invading Iraq was a costly diversion that will not soon end. We gave Bin Laden everything he had hoped to get and more. The muslim world is now untied against the US.
pretty good, i agree!!!!
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If Bush has been so wonderful protecting us why is Bin Laden still able to broadcast?

More important listen to the message, something Americans don't seem to get. We are programmed in school to believe we are such a great country. We are the economic imperialists of the world. We are not territory grabbers, we stopped that after Cuba and the Phillipines. We economic imperialists try to control puppet goverments to our advantage while raping the resources of nations.

We need to pratice some of what we preach and leave other nations to their own nation building and let them create the institutions they want.

Invading Iraq was a costly diversion that will not soon end. We gave Bin Laden everything he had hoped to get and more. The muslim world is now untied against the US.
Exactly. It's the vision of everybody outside USA actually.
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ah but muslims loved us before iraq didn't they

another day another tard theory
you are the retard.
He is right about Iraq, and if what he just said about Iraq had been applied when dealing with Palestine/Israel and Iraq/Iran the world would not be in the mess it is now.

Why does the USA allow and tolerate Israel driving tanks into Palestine and destroying houses and killing rock throwers.

Sure there are terrorists in Palestine, ready to die because they have no way out because they are getting NO support and no help from the LOPSIDDED USA.

Fuck it, please explain to me why people in Cuba are poor right now.

Tell me.
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ah but muslims loved us before iraq didn't they

another day another tard theory
Duh and you think it started with IRAQ? Did you even read?

Look at Swiss, it's a rich and beautiful country. They did not participate in any war in the last century and they are respected worldwide. They mind their own business.
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you are the retard.
He is right about Iraq, and if what he just said about Iraq had been applied when dealing with Palestine/Israel and Iraq/Iran the world would not be in the mess it is now.

Why does the USA allow and tolerate Israel driving tanks into Palestine and destroying houses and killing rock throwers.

Sure there are terrorists in Palestine, ready to die because they have no way out because they are getting NO support and no help from the LOPSIDDED USA.

Fuck it, please explain to me why people in Cuba are poor right now.

Tell me.
thanks for the clarification tard
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Duh and you think it started with IRAQ? Did you even read?

Look at Swiss, it's a rich and beautiful country. They did not participate in any war in the last century and they are respected worldwide. They mind their own business.
yeah, and they won't be attacked because they stay the fuck out of other people's business.
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thanks for the clarification tard
is that all you have to say Bush lover?

believe everything that is fed to you.
Just gobble it up and say thanks for this food mister Lord.
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Duh and you think it started with IRAQ? Did you even read?

Look at Swiss, it's a rich and beautiful country. They did not participate in any war in the last century and they are respected worldwide. They mind their own business.
Just like Canada
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is that all you have to say Bush lover?

believe everything that is fed to you.
Just gobble it up and say thanks for this food mister Lord.
you're going a long way in a short time to prove how dumb you really are today. i'm proud of you, i must like bush because i think you're dumb right.

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just seen Paraskass OWN the shit out of digipimp.

good post, fun to read
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yeah, and they won't be attacked because they stay the fuck out of other people's business.
or because it's a fucking small ass country with nothing worth them taking the time to fight for
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you're going a long way in a short time to prove how dumb you really are today. i'm proud of you, i must like bush because i think you're dumb right.

you're just coming to this forum repeating what you've been told for the last 3 years.
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you're just coming to this forum repeating what you've been told for the last 3 years.
really how so? you have such a narrow scope of knowledge that it's almost depressing, i'm not laughing at you i'm feeling sorry for you. i happen to think bush might have been the worst president in history, but you're the fucking retard quoting reasons why you agree with bin laden.

even a fucking broken clock is right 2 times a day. you hate bush so much you've fucking lowered yourself to telling us what bin laden is right about, when bush and fucking bin laden are god damn near the same person you fucking idiot.
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or because it's a fucking small ass country with nothing worth them taking the time to fight for
They have large financial institutions.

Anyways that is besides the point.

Ossama won the war the day Bush declared war on Iraq.

It's over, he proved he was right.
And that is sad, very sad.

The day the USA will say: "fuck you Israel, disarm or we will invade", then I will cum my pants and jubilate.
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really how so? you have such a narrow scope of knowledge that it's almost depressing, i'm not laughing at you i'm feeling sorry for you. i happen to think bush might have been the worst president in history, but you're the fucking retard quoting reasons why you agree with bin laden.

even a fucking broken clock is right 2 times a day. you hate bush so much you've fucking lowered yourself to telling us what bin laden is right about, when bush and fucking bin laden are god damn near the same person you fucking idiot.

Nah, Bush and Bin Laden are not the same.
Although they are both twisted in the way they handle their business, Bin Laden has been honest to his ennemies and to his allies.

He has layed out the facts on the table and he has not diverted the course of his actions. He said this is why, and this is what we did.

Bush just blabbered, went off to war and lied about everything.
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They have large financial institutions.

Anyways that is besides the point.

Ossama won the war the day Bush declared war on Iraq.

It's over, he proved he was right.
And that is sad, very sad.

The day the USA will say: "fuck you Israel, disarm or we will invade", then I will cum my pants and jubilate.
2 bad that day will never happen...

USA is owned by JEWS,
Jews never had their own country,
American Jews created israel,

We need another HITLER in USA
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Nah, Bush and Bin Laden are not the same.
Although they are both twisted in the way they handle their business, Bin Laden has been honest to his ennemies and to his allies.

He has layed out the facts on the table and he has not diverted the course of his actions. He said this is why, and this is what we did.

Bush just blabbered, went off to war and lied about everything.
bin laden is about as honest as bush is, what he says is said to suit his needs, they're both rich privileged fucking late in life religion finding fucking wackos who think their vision of how the world should be is right and they both talk to god about it somehow.
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2 bad that day will never happen...

USA is owned by JEWS,
Jews never had their own country,
American Jews created israel,

We need another HITLER in USA
and here's the guy who agreed with you lol the guy who wants all the jews dead

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bin laden is about as honest as bush is, what he says is said to suit his needs, they're both rich privileged fucking late in life religion finding fucking wackos who think their vision of how the world should be is right and they both talk to god about it somehow.
you got me on that one.
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you got me on that one.
yep so just because i disagree don't be so quick to brand me a bush lover. i think he's garbage, but so is john kerry and bin laden and all these other rich privileged assholes and corporations that run the world.
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I think Bin Laden was beeing clear in it.

He says 9/11 happenned because of Israel vs. Palestine.

That's what so many experts we're saying. It is 100% the only reason according to Bin Laden.

Now, we have to ask ourselves, why didn't the Bush administration ever mention that possibility? Did they know and not want to speak?

Was it true like some people claim that Israel knew ahead of time but said nothing?

I have always been one to say that instead of retaliating and making things worse, after these attacks the USA should have taken a step back and asked itself, why did this happen?

How can we prevent this from happenning again?

Answer: Stop being international bullies and if we do have to police the world, at least do it in a fair way.

no?
In Islam, it's permitted for Muslims to lie to unbelievers if it furthers their cause. It is called taqiyah.

Usual lies are:
1. Islam means peace (it doesn't, it means submission)
2. Muslims invented everything (they didn't. They invented almost nothing)
3. Everyone is born a Muslim (everyone is actually born a non-cognitivist)
4. Muslims discovered the Americas (apart from the Native Americans it was the Vikings, then Columbus)
4. Their anger is due to Israel/ Palestine (it is not. There are many reasons for their anger - the main one being that Allah has given all the power, money and guns to the infidels, when actually in Islam a Muslim is superior to an infidel)

There are many others.

To trust Bin Laden is to admit your naivety, at the absolute very least.
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If Bush has been so wonderful protecting us why is Bin Laden still able to broadcast?

More important listen to the message, something Americans don't seem to get. We are programmed in school to believe we are such a great country. We are the economic imperialists of the world. We are not territory grabbers, we stopped that after Cuba and the Phillipines. We economic imperialists try to control puppet goverments to our advantage while raping the resources of nations.

We need to pratice some of what we preach and leave other nations to their own nation building and let them create the institutions they want.

Invading Iraq was a costly diversion that will not soon end. We gave Bin Laden everything he had hoped to get and more. The muslim world is now untied against the US.
There is a lot of truth you said here, but you ended up with the wrong point of view.

America is a great country, and I honestly believe in my heart that we try to do what is right. Look at Japan and Germany for examples - You cannot say they are puppet goverments. We helped them to create a government, and then set them loose. But this is not a quick process - The US military remained in Japan for six years, and much longer for Germany. And I'm sure ten years from now Iraq will be a great country standing on it's own.

The entire Muslim world is united against the US. They blame everything on the US. But who's fault is it? Who carved up the Middle East, creating Jordan and Isreal? Wasn't it.... England and - surprise - the French who creaded Trans Jordan and Isreal? Is it the fault of the US that the Jews returned to the Middle East in 1880 reaching a peak shortly after WWII?

The United States could pull out of the Middle East today, and it wouldn't change a thing. They would continue to fight and kill each other and the land would be ruled by warlords that terrorize each other and their population. And they would continue to blame us for their problems.

We attacked a country - Iraq - because of what they did to Kuwait. Funny how the muslim world take up arms when one muslim country attacked and slautered another?
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If Bush has been so wonderful protecting us why is Bin Laden still able to broadcast?

More important listen to the message, something Americans don't seem to get. We are programmed in school to believe we are such a great country. We are the economic imperialists of the world. We are not territory grabbers, we stopped that after Cuba and the Phillipines. We economic imperialists try to control puppet goverments to our advantage while raping the resources of nations.

We need to pratice some of what we preach and leave other nations to their own nation building and let them create the institutions they want.

Invading Iraq was a costly diversion that will not soon end. We gave Bin Laden everything he had hoped to get and more. The muslim world is now untied against the US.
Very True!
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One more note on the Iraq fiasco. 100,000 civilian dead. I guess we liberated them too.

Get smart and read something other than fox news.

We will see if the American public has any awareness after the ballots are counted. if Bush wins, allah, god, Jesus, forbid we will have a very difficult 4 more years that will take the US down a road that might destroy this country from within.

I have been voting for many years and this is the MOST important Presidential election in my life. Please disregard the polls regardless of where you live and vote KERRY for the sake of oyu life and many others around the world.
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There is something fishy about that tape. I smell a cover -up. wonder who?
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I never seen it yet. Wait until I see it and I will give my immediate comment. Good luck.
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