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Old 10-17-2004, 03:08 PM   #1
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Electoral-vote.com - Guess who's leading...

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Go Kerry!
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:08 PM   #2
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:09 PM   #3
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:10 PM   #4
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Neither one is leading. It's a dead tie.
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:10 PM   #5
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Kerry 253 Bush 247

Thats a tie?
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:11 PM   #6
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That is a huge change from last week. Kerry was like 211.
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:12 PM   #7
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looks like FL will be the deciding factor again
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:14 PM   #8
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Lol, even if kerry was ahead - bush will still win

I hope kerry does win though
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:15 PM   #9
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Kerry 253 Bush 247

Thats a tie?
Yup, since the margin of error more than covers the difference. Besides, 270 is the minimum needed to win.
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:17 PM   #10
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Redneck states are voting for Bush. It figures.
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:19 PM   #11
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Yup, since the margin of error more than covers the difference. Besides, 270 is the minimum needed to win.
Look at the chart, FL (27 votes) is shown to be a dead tie. Whoever wins that would get the 27 votes and victory . . . if you believe that chart.
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:21 PM   #12
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Look at the chart, FL (27 votes) is shown to be a dead tie. Whoever wins that would get the 27 votes and victory . . . if you believe that chart.
Yup, that too.
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:22 PM   #13
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Florida is very often one of the deciding states.

There are a lot of people with a lot of money there.

The thing against Bush is that he fucked the Cubans just a few months ago. But for some reason some of them still love him. And he will puh for the old people and all the things he has done for them.
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Redneck states are voting for Bush. It figures.
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Kentucky: 57% Bush/38% Kerry

Tennesee: 58% Bush/39% Kerry

West Virginia: 50% Bush/44% Kerry/1% Nader (lol)

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Old 10-17-2004, 03:28 PM   #15
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New CNN/USA Today Poll

Oct. 14-16, 2004.

Bush 52%

Kerry 44%

http://pollingreport.com/wh04gen.htm
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:28 PM   #16
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looks like FL will be the deciding factor again
Scary isn't it
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:36 PM   #17
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:39 PM   #18
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Now, what I don't fully understand is this:
I'm from Argentina, a country of 30 million, and in the last few elections, the only polls that where close where those that surveyed anywhere from 10,000 to 30,000 voters...
Here, they take a couple of days to post new polls where they usually poll just about 1000 potential voters... doesn't that smell shitty to you? I guess unless 'my' governor Jeb gets his hands real dirty, much more than in 2000, cons are gonna be for a great surprise come nov 2...
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:40 PM   #19
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I hope this election is as close, or closer than the last want. I want Kerry to win a re-count just to piss off the people who told Gore supporters to "get over it" last time around.
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:40 PM   #20
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Well my sites are already flying Kerry banners so I'm doing what I can.

And I'm not even american but I will do what I can no matter what.
I have several american friends outside the adult business and they say their life is getting worse month by month. If I sit back and don't do something I would feel like a prick for ignoring the shit.

I might not be able to do much but something counts more than nothing.
And I can show the banners to 200.000 americans every day which is something.
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:43 PM   #21
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Actually bush is really in the lead ... I think
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:46 PM   #22
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:56 PM   #23
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The Florida fix is in again.

I fear Bush wil win.

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Old 10-17-2004, 04:15 PM   #24
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Few comments.

a) Even the guy that put up the polls that made Bush a big favorite said he didn't trust them. They always have Bush ahead by more than the other polling places. He said he left it because he made it a point to use the newest polls and theirs happened to be it.

b) I read somewhere that 2/3 undecides vote underdog on election day. They were saying that for Bush to win a state with 2% going to other candidates he'd need at least 50% of the vote. States like FL that are a coin flip or close would most probably go to Kerry.

c) Kerry will win.
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this site is pretty well researched but there are flaws in the polls. For example the polls of likely voters VS registered voters. The likely voter polls have bush with about a 6-8 point lead while the registered voter polls are almost dead even. Even the polling analyst say that what matters is registered voters because likely voters are more likely to not vote at all.

Also, many polls are taken during the daytime on weekdays. They don't call business or cell phone numbers so they often get stay at home moms/housewives and about 70% of them are republican shich can skew the polls.

the polls in the end, when they are this close, are really meaningless. Gore was down by about 9 points on election day and won the popular vote but lost it in florida.

I hope Kerry wins. I think it will most likely be a very close election and I think in the end it will come down to Florida and there will be big controversy.
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Old 10-17-2004, 06:27 PM   #26
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Bush will carry all the Fundamentalist Christian and former slave owning states.
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b) I read somewhere that 2/3 undecides vote underdog on election day. They were saying that for Bush to win a state with 2% going to other candidates he'd need at least 50% of the vote. States like FL that are a coin flip or close would most probably go to Kerry.

c) Kerry will win.
Undecides actually break 2:1 ratio in favor of the challenger.

However, Bush is pulling ahead nationally and has the momentum despite losing the debates. I'm coming more and more to the conclusion that the country has decided to vote him back in and it will be a slim Bush win, or perhaps he may pull away now.

If so, get ready for Republican control; get ready for our industry to be leaned on in ways you can't even imagine presently.

Then all the adult webmasters on here who supported Bush can wring their hands and rue the day they supported the Republican asshole machine, a machine which is anti-porn.

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Undecides actually break 2:1 ratio in favor of the challenger.

However, Bush is pulling ahead nationally and has the momentum despite losing the debates. I'm coming more and more to the conclusion that the country has decided to vote him back in and it will be a slim Bush win, or perhaps he may pull away now.

If so, get ready for Republican control; get ready for our industry to be leaned on in ways you can't even imagine presently.

Then all the adult webmasters on here who supported Bush can wring their hands and rue the day they supported the Republican asshole machine, a machine which is anti-porn.

well said
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Undecides actually break 2:1 ratio in favor of the challenger.

However, Bush is pulling ahead nationally and has the momentum despite losing the debates. I'm coming more and more to the conclusion that the country has decided to vote him back in and it will be a slim Bush win, or perhaps he may pull away now.

If so, get ready for Republican control; get ready for our industry to be leaned on in ways you can't even imagine presently.

Then all the adult webmasters on here who supported Bush can wring their hands and rue the day they supported the Republican asshole machine, a machine which is anti-porn.

2/3 = two thirds = 2:1 ;)

Bush is not pulling away, he's been losing ground for weeks.
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This is fucking awesome guess the debates did more for kerry than I thought...
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whatever way it goes, it won't be pretty. these next couple of weeks are going to be insane.

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They both suck. We need to just forget the whole electon and start over again.

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b) I read somewhere that 2/3 undecides vote underdog on election day. They were saying that for Bush to win a state with 2% going to other candidates he'd need at least 50% of the vote. States like FL that are a coin flip or close would most probably go to Kerry.
Loads of people are saying this, but this isn't exactly a strong, proven theory. Just because in the past undecideds have tended to vote for the incumbent doesn't mean that will happen this time. In fact, the opposite could happen if people decide it would be a bad idea to switch commander-in-chief during war.

Another factor which may play a _very_ large role is that Bush is actually not making winning undecided voters his main goal, but is instead focusing on people already on his side. There are relatively few undecided voters this election, and higher voter turnout among republicans could well turn out to be the deciding factor.
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