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brand0n · 10-13-2004, 04:56 PM

50 blow offs

D-Money · 10-13-2004, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by DatingGold
Why is Ibill allowing it for other clients but not you????

Now that's the question that needs answering.

Good luck Lens.

If anyone from IBill cares to read this thread, Lensman is the last guy you'd want to piss off in the adult internet.

I'd love to get someone from IBill on my live show.

Questions need to be answered asap.

sexeducation · 10-13-2004, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by DatingGold
Why is Ibill allowing it for other clients but not you????

49TH POST

sexeducation · 10-13-2004, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by IntenseCash
We transferred our database twice. Certain processors have certain rules. One processor we transferred with we had to email each customer notifying them they would be billed by a different name. This is a disclosure that visa/mastercard set out and is supossed to be followed because it is written in their disclosure. So don't be surprised it you do move you may have to email each customer.

Mark

48TH POST

foolio · 10-13-2004, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by DatingGold
Why is Ibill allowing it for other clients but not you????

I am sure they are making some nice money with them thats why

hova · 10-13-2004, 05:29 PM

very very very interesting to see what happens next

Drake · 10-13-2004, 05:43 PM

Ibill never was great at client services

sexeducation · 10-13-2004, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by Mike33
Ibill never was great at client services

Is there any new news yet?
;)

quiet · 10-13-2004, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Lensman
I know for a fact that other processors are doing Ibill imports right now.

Yes, it is allowed, and it's the only proper thing to do right now.

bingo. too bad they aren't letting most have access...

xclusive · 10-13-2004, 07:02 PM

Stupid fucks are making it impossible for themselves to survive...

Spunky · 10-13-2004, 07:04 PM

That's fucking bullshit..I say we send over the boys to talk to them

uchase/webpry · 10-13-2004, 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by Lensman
Still billing some of our customers and and not paying us.

We want to move our customers to another IPSP, and they are not responding our lawyers.

I guess keeping our database and our money is more important.

Looks like lawsuit time. I'll keep everyone posted.

... would be interesting to follow once they filed for chapter11 tomorrow.

sexeducation · 10-13-2004, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... would be interesting to follow once they filed for chapter11 tomorrow.

your bet is tomorrow?
I voted two weeks.

jimmyf · 10-13-2004, 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Of course Lensman sees a problem with Ibill taking in money from his customers and not releasing it. Now to get the 400 idiots here to understand the point.

good luck

jimmyf · 10-13-2004, 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK
Damn, I would have thought that they would at least respond to your lawyers. If only to tell them they'll look into it.

they are broke, so he sue's them

Plus they need the money.... good excuse don't you think

They are going 2 keep on doing what they are doing for as long as they can.... That money is the CEO's pay check

BlueQuartz · 10-13-2004, 07:20 PM

lensman - this sexeducation guy - we've found cp on his site - why isn't he banned?

Indeed · 10-13-2004, 07:22 PM

ibill are dead...good luck

jimmyf · 10-13-2004, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DatingGold
Why is Ibill allowing it for other clients but not you????

guess they don't like him

Jizzman · 10-13-2004, 07:28 PM

flying fuck at a rolling donut comes to mind...cock smokers

Jay_StandAhead · 10-13-2004, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
bingo. too bad they aren't letting most have access...

are you switching your processor for new signups in the meantime?

Steen2 · 10-13-2004, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Still billing some of our customers and and not paying us.

We want to move our customers to another IPSP, and they are not responding our lawyers.

I guess keeping our database and our money is more important.

Looks like lawsuit time. I'll keep everyone posted.

Lawsuits suck unless you don't care about blowing cash on lawyers

sexeducation · 10-13-2004, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by BlueQuartz
lensman - this sexeducation guy - we've found cp on his site - why isn't he banned?

You are a fucking liar!!!

sicone · 10-13-2004, 07:42 PM

Seems they dont care who they are fucking over on all this. Good luck with this situation, hopefully its resolved quickly without too much cost/loss on your side

BlueQuartz · 10-13-2004, 07:42 PM

bullshit

there are probably hundreds of people who saw that link on wayback foo

and im sure someone will repost it again so dont worry pedo

BlueQuartz · 10-13-2004, 08:17 PM

regardless of what you say pedo, lensman i await your answer

KRL · 10-13-2004, 09:12 PM

The warning signs were there many moons ago.

Arousal Design · 10-13-2004, 09:20 PM

I guess its safe to say we wont see anymore IBill banners on GFY?

CC · 10-13-2004, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by Arousal Design
I guess its safe to say we wont see anymore IBill banners on GFY?

I just saw one this evening, LOL.

Lensman · 10-13-2004, 10:33 PM

We plan on honoring our ad contract. Hopefully Ibill will do the right thing by us as well.

Far-L · 10-13-2004, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
The warning signs were there many moons ago.

I thought I was the only one thinking that way...

I am not an attorney... but I sure have had my share of paying a few... and I would have to say that the place to start figuring out if a law suit is worth it is with the contract...

Does this issue get covered in any agreements between ibill and its merchants?

Rollin Studios · 10-13-2004, 10:45 PM

Go get 'em lens!!

Mr. Mike · 10-13-2004, 11:10 PM

Man, I remember when everyone thought IBILL was the best, one of the most solid companies, will be "the last one standing". Look at them now... not paying, fucking around with every webmaster. Not replying to lawyers? Forget who's wrong and who's right, not replying to lawyers is just arrogant and stupid. It's getting shittier every day.

Im glad I never dealt with them.

Kimmykim · 10-13-2004, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by TonyL
Lets make sure we are talking about the same thing. You want to take the customers credit cards you have intially billed under IBill. And export this data to a new processor to process under another descriptor.

Essentially the customer has agreed to the terms of being billed under the descriptor name of Ibill and you want to change the agreement and terms to another company and account.

I do not think this is going to be possible "on the record" this may have been done in the backend without Visa/Mastercard directly knowing. But it's unlikely someone with your volume will go un-noticed with todays Visa/Mastercard.

-Tony

Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're wrong. As long as the banks, IPSPs, and card associations agree, this happens all the time. It has nothing to do with today's Visa/Mastercard, and I'm completely clueless as to where you keep coming up with this statement when people who are in processing continue to correct you.

Kimmykim · 10-13-2004, 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by sexeducation
If they have your database - can they use it to promote "competitor" products? Is that the iBill.com goal?

Seek medical help you blathering idiot.

vapewiz · 10-13-2004, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Still billing some of our customers and and not paying us.

We want to move our customers to another IPSP, and they are not responding our lawyers.

I guess keeping our database and our money is more important.

Looks like lawsuit time. I'll keep everyone posted.

You said ibill was the bomb for a long time here.... glad u see the true ibill now.

BRISK · 10-13-2004, 11:20 PM

Once again it's disturbing to see how many people seem to be hoping IBill becomes the failure that they think it will. Whether you're an IBill client or not, they're very important to the stability of this industry. If IBill goes down for good, we're all worse off, and we will all be in an even more precarious situation than before.

Shoplifter · 10-13-2004, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
Once again it's disturbing to see how many people seem to be hoping IBill becomes the failure that they think it will. Whether you're an IBill client or not, they're very important to the stability of this industry. If IBill goes down for good, we're all worse off, and we will all be in an even more precarious situation than before.

A week ago everyone was saluting them as they were beginning payouts. The only thing that has changed since then is the amount of panic in the herd.

I pray I wont eat these words, but I feel as long as Ibill has a pending bank contract they wont go anywhere. This contract is the fundamental difference between this situation and what happened with WSB and the others.

Drake · 10-13-2004, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shoplifter
A week ago everyone was saluting them as they were beginning payouts. The only thing that has changed since then is the amount of panic in the herd.

I pray I wont eat these words, but I feel as long as Ibill has a pending bank contract they wont go anywhere. This contract is the fundamental difference between this situation and what happened with WSB and the others.

I hope you're right. And there clearly is a difference with the Ibill situation. Unlike WSB or Globill which basically said goodbye overnight, Ibill really is fighting, and they're clearly doing their best to get things moving again. Time will tell.

psyko514 · 10-13-2004, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyL
Lets make sure we are talking about the same thing. You want to take the customers credit cards you have intially billed under IBill. And export this data to a new processor to process under another descriptor.

Essentially the customer has agreed to the terms of being billed under the descriptor name of Ibill and you want to change the agreement and terms to another company and account.

I do not think this is going to be possible "on the record" this may have been done in the backend without Visa/Mastercard directly knowing. But it's unlikely someone with your volume will go un-noticed with todays Visa/Mastercard.

-Tony

If Ibill agrees to release the database and members are given advance notice, it's allowed.

How do you think your phone company increases their rates, or an internet provider changes their bandwith limits? What do you think happens when a company buys out another and changes the name?

AMADude · 10-13-2004, 11:35 PM

Not a good move iBill.

Due · 10-13-2004, 11:46 PM

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Originally posted by cutetwink
You said ibill was the bomb for a long time here.... glad u see the true ibill now.

If you keep a bomb too long, sooner or later it will blow up in your hands.

quiet · 10-14-2004, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shoplifter
A week ago everyone was saluting them as they were beginning payouts. The only thing that has changed since then is the amount of panic in the herd.

I pray I wont eat these words, but I feel as long as Ibill has a pending bank contract they wont go anywhere. This contract is the fundamental difference between this situation and what happened with WSB and the others.

cheers Shoplifter

Major (Tom) · 10-14-2004, 12:10 AM

Godspeed Lensman, Godspeed!

Get their asses!

Duke

cali_22 · 10-14-2004, 12:15 AM

go gettem lens

Eservices2k3 · 10-14-2004, 12:26 AM

Anyone who is still using IBill and claims to not be worried, is either a liar, or an idiot wrapped in a moron.

Kimmykim · 10-14-2004, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
If Ibill agrees to release the database and members are given advance notice, it's allowed.

How do you think your phone company increases their rates, or an internet provider changes their bandwith limits? What do you think happens when a company buys out another and changes the name?

Actually, from a contract and compliance perspective, members do not have to be given advance notice... their TOS more than likely states that they can be moved without notification and definitely without prior notification as long as the banks, the IPSPs and the card associations are in agreement with the move.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-14-2004, 01:34 AM

Obviously someone is not on agreement amoung those listed.

I would bet its a HUGE amount of transactions, with the potential to pay mortages buy the truckload with interest alone.

They love the cock, but hate the taste I guess

Its to good.

vapewiz · 10-14-2004, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Due
If you keep a bomb too long, sooner or later it will blow up in your hands.

wdsguy · 10-14-2004, 01:41 AM

time to bust out the pimp hand lens

pornstar2pac · 10-14-2004, 01:57 AM

"Looks like Ibill is blowing off Adult.com's lawyers."

No Pun Intended

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