ccbill scrubbing harder lately? - GoFuckYourself.com

Nickless · 10-12-2004, 08:55 PM

I've experienced incredibly high ratios with ccbill lately, and other people i've talked to, maybe ccbill is currently scrubbing harder to stay away from trouble? (with the recent ibill shit...) or it's completely unrelated?

maybe it's not necessarily a bad thing now, just wanted to check how are everyone else's ccbill ratios doing lately?

xclusive · 10-12-2004, 08:56 PM

No doubt about it but it differes from day to day...

Porko · 10-12-2004, 09:11 PM

Nickless · 10-12-2004, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bimbo

damn those are worse than mine

80smetal · 10-12-2004, 09:30 PM

thats madness, let me say it first

"Nothing wrong on our end, are you doing anything differently with your traffic"?

Porko · 10-12-2004, 09:32 PM

my ratio is 6 times worst than same month of last year

uchase/webpry · 10-12-2004, 09:33 PM

... they harder they scrub, the softer they fall.

pudcat · 10-12-2004, 09:34 PM

My conversions are up a little

studio · 10-12-2004, 09:41 PM

Guys, With #'s like that you should really be taking a look at pineapplepink.

I don't know how you can keep going that way. Pineapplepink this month, over all has converted 1 :325 That is based on all traffic the site received, TGP, SE, Banners in other paysites etc. Also it is figured on unique visitors to sign ups.

Take a look, sure can't hurt...

uchase/webpry · 10-12-2004, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by studio

Take a look, sure can't hurt...

... I remember once someone dropped the soap and said the same to me.

Vitasoy · 10-12-2004, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bimbo

I got that doubled.

1:12164.0

Good thing I don't rely only on ccbill.

studio · 10-12-2004, 09:44 PM

... I remember once someone dropped the soap and said the same to me.

TheSaint · 10-12-2004, 09:47 PM

I'm really not seeing it. Some days off, some days great. I think it depends on the affiliate and their traffic. Take a look at some of mine - some convert at 0% no matter what they send and some guys convert on almost every click, damn if I can figire it out a lot of the time.

studio · 10-12-2004, 09:49 PM

I just refigured the conversion ratio... It is currently 1:307

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it...

Bansheelinks · 10-12-2004, 09:49 PM

thats when you know they are trying to get under the bar, when ratios are forced to ridiculous levels like that.......get a few checks returned or some CB's? then you'll get the scrub so hard you'll be raw for days from ccbill......

i can't remember but one webmaster calls them scrubbill.......

gornyhuy · 10-12-2004, 09:50 PM

my ccbill stuff is really hurting bad. I used to rely almost 100% on those sites but now I can't deal with the roller coaster.

Nickless · 10-12-2004, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by studio
Guys, With #'s like that you should really be taking a look at pineapplepink.

I don't know how you can keep going that way. Pineapplepink this month, over all has converted 1 :325 That is based on all traffic the site received, TGP, SE, Banners in other paysites etc. Also it is figured on unique visitors to sign ups.

Take a look, sure can't hurt...

irrelevant, the same sites were doing way much better 2 weeks ago or a year ago for that matter, the ratio will eventually drop (i hope) we're talking scrubbing here, which your site is not immune to since you process with ccbill too

Nickless · 10-12-2004, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSaint
I'm really not seeing it. Some days off, some days great. I think it depends on the affiliate and their traffic. Take a look at some of mine - some convert at 0% no matter what they send and some guys convert on almost every click, damn if I can figire it out a lot of the time.

[drool] is that se traffic?

edit: nevermind i just noticed it's a main account, not affiliate.

studio · 10-12-2004, 10:02 PM

As a site owner, we are notified by e-mail when a sail is scrubed... and It is a very small % at least it has been at my site? I have never had a charge back either?

Nickless · 10-12-2004, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by studio
As a site owner, we are notified by e-mail when a sail is scrubed... and It is a very small % at least it has been at my site? I have never had a charge back either?

your site is just 6 months old? give it some time

Porko · 10-12-2004, 10:21 PM

yes, its a bad week

* its a joke

The Bootyologist · 10-12-2004, 10:25 PM

yes, it's bad

PerfectionGirls · 10-12-2004, 10:26 PM

Quote:

As a site owner, we are notified by e-mail when a sail is scrubed... and It is a very small % at least it has been at my site? I have never had a charge back either?

True... we do get those emails if someone is rejected, but I bet there are others that we do not see or make it that far.

As for chargebacks... we have had 16 chargeback this year. CCBill really seems to keep things in check which is a good thing for everyone. While i dont liek it when they scrub hard... I do like it that we are safe and sound.

And Studio... hit me up.

TheSaint · 10-12-2004, 10:33 PM

I think the scrub thing is an urban legend. I get an email when someone is scrubbed. Furthermore, I have a denial page the customer gets when they have been scrubbed, pushing them with a last chance backup processor. I can see the stats on when that form is hit, and on top of that customers email and ask sometimes when they do get scrubbed.

Bottom line - I don't think scrubs have ever amounted to more than 25% or so with CCBill for me, a big number yes, but not the reason for anybody's ratios falling off the earth.

Porko · 10-13-2004, 08:07 AM

i reach 1:7030 yesterday

BlingDaddy · 10-13-2004, 08:15 AM

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Originally posted by bimbo

Looks like mine! LMAO

BlingDaddy · 10-13-2004, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by studio
As a site owner, we are notified by e-mail when a sail is scrubed... and It is a very small % at least it has been at my site? I have never had a charge back either?

You got me..... I'll sign up this week. I used to live in Lacrosse, WI. LMAO

fris · 10-13-2004, 08:17 AM

i only got 1 sale off my hegre's archive hun gallery yesterday, i usally avg 10-28 sales off my hun galleries. sucks for me. worst hun gallery ever

Nickless · 10-15-2004, 09:25 PM

still the same here

xclusive · 10-15-2004, 09:28 PM

Is it just me or is it getting even worse now?

DWB · 10-15-2004, 09:51 PM

The past 2 weeks my ccbill sales have been down for sure.

Sosa · 10-15-2004, 09:57 PM

1:400 or so the past 3 days.

Centurion · 10-15-2004, 10:01 PM

Usually I don't buy into the "conspiracy theories", but either it's just totally coincidental, or something weird is going on.

I'm used to seeing a dramatic one or two day drop off..but for the last 8 years I've never seen such a dramatic drop off in sales as I have with ccbill this last week.

Maybe it is just coincidence and several 'bad" days just happened to come all together instead of spreading themselves out (I'm hoping of this one!) OR..something is up.

Won't really be concerned unless the "trend" continues into next week (and saturdays have always been a good barometer for me).

Webby · 10-15-2004, 10:10 PM

Shit.. these are some disgusting stats... sorry folks.

Now I know what not to spent time doing - tho it "seemed" a good possible project.

KDizzla · 10-15-2004, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
i only got 1 sale off my hegre's archive hun gallery yesterday, i usally avg 10-28 sales off my hun galleries. sucks for me. worst hun gallery ever

My hun listing last week sucked ass too. I think I only pulled 1 trial and 1 full.

Donny · 10-15-2004, 10:24 PM

The sky is falling...

The sky is falling...

The sky is falling...

The sky is falling!!!

Sky seems pretty clear from where I sit. Sorry ya'all aren't having the same experiences...

Porko · 10-16-2004, 04:17 PM

Nickless · 10-16-2004, 04:18 PM

i'm at 1:4000+ and i've heard of 1:10000+ when the usual is no more than 1:1000 yes the sky is falling.

Nickless · 10-16-2004, 09:05 PM

nice to see all the 'would you hit it' threads up in here, what do you say gfy surfers, does ccbill decline your cards more often nowadays? :p

Porko · 10-16-2004, 11:49 PM

spooky181 · 10-17-2004, 04:25 AM

I haven't seen those sort's of numbers since I left scrubbill for Verotel...

Babagirls · 10-17-2004, 04:29 AM

why wouldnt they? where are you going to run to? ibill?

johndoebob · 10-17-2004, 04:33 AM

Depends on the day, luck, database server, cookie loss etc.

With Adultcashier my conversions are about the same as before with iBill as primary.

johndoebob · 10-17-2004, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nickless
[drool] is that se traffic?

edit: nevermind i just noticed it's a main account, not affiliate.

Yeah that's the big difference, sponsors will always get their money...

maxxxxx · 10-17-2004, 11:33 AM

Last 3 days 1:7400, 1:3100 and 1:5000 while I'm usually at 1:1300 for all accounts on CCBill. Something's not right here...

Dirty D · 10-17-2004, 12:25 PM

Yesterday was a record sales day for us

We process hundreds of members per day, from thousands of affiliate partners. Anything that changes day to day is very apparent to us...

CCbill rocks, our traffic and signups are steady...
however traffic quality is not!

We see huge swings in each affiliate's conversion rates.
Each have good days and bad days - but not on the same days!
Traffic sources are often dynamic so the quality will vary.
(Chinese traffic is only good for trades - lol)

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10-12-2004, 08:55 PM	#1
Nickless Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: homeless Posts: 1,955	ccbill scrubbing harder lately? I've experienced incredibly high ratios with ccbill lately, and other people i've talked to, maybe ccbill is currently scrubbing harder to stay away from trouble? (with the recent ibill shit...) or it's completely unrelated? maybe it's not necessarily a bad thing now, just wanted to check how are everyone else's ccbill ratios doing lately?

10-12-2004, 08:56 PM	#2
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	No doubt about it but it differes from day to day... __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

10-12-2004, 09:34 PM	#8
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10-12-2004, 09:41 PM	#9
studio Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oshkosh, WI ICQ #251860879 Posts: 1,095	Guys, With #'s like that you should really be taking a look at pineapplepink. I don't know how you can keep going that way. Pineapplepink this month, over all has converted 1 :325 That is based on all traffic the site received, TGP, SE, Banners in other paysites etc. Also it is figured on unique visitors to sign ups. Take a look, sure can't hurt... __________________

10-12-2004, 09:44 PM	#12
studio Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oshkosh, WI ICQ #251860879 Posts: 1,095	... I remember once someone dropped the soap and said the same to me. __________________

10-12-2004, 09:11 PM	#3
Porko SeeMyBucks.com Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,014

10-12-2004, 09:30 PM	#5
80smetal Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 505	thats madness, let me say it first "Nothing wrong on our end, are you doing anything differently with your traffic"?

10-12-2004, 09:32 PM	#6
Porko SeeMyBucks.com Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,014	my ratio is 6 times worst than same month of last year

10-12-2004, 09:33 PM	#7
uchase/webpry So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Do you use sex.com's XML feed, try ours and make double the money. Posts: 2,085	... they harder they scrub, the softer they fall.

10-12-2004, 09:47 PM	#13
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	I'm really not seeing it. Some days off, some days great. I think it depends on the affiliate and their traffic. Take a look at some of mine - some convert at 0% no matter what they send and some guys convert on almost every click, damn if I can figire it out a lot of the time. __________________ I have no signature

10-12-2004, 09:49 PM	#14
studio Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oshkosh, WI ICQ #251860879 Posts: 1,095	I just refigured the conversion ratio... It is currently 1:307 You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it... __________________

10-12-2004, 09:49 PM	#15
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	thats when you know they are trying to get under the bar, when ratios are forced to ridiculous levels like that.......get a few checks returned or some CB's? then you'll get the scrub so hard you'll be raw for days from ccbill...... i can't remember but one webmaster calls them scrubbill.......

10-12-2004, 09:50 PM	#16
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	my ccbill stuff is really hurting bad. I used to rely almost 100% on those sites but now I can't deal with the roller coaster. __________________ icq:159548293

10-12-2004, 10:02 PM	#19
studio Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oshkosh, WI ICQ #251860879 Posts: 1,095	As a site owner, we are notified by e-mail when a sail is scrubed... and It is a very small % at least it has been at my site? I have never had a charge back either? __________________

10-12-2004, 10:21 PM	#21
Porko SeeMyBucks.com Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,014	yes, its a bad week * its a joke Last edited by bimbo; 10-12-2004 at 10:24 PM..

10-12-2004, 10:25 PM	#22
The Bootyologist So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: m00dville Posts: 2,912	yes, it's bad

10-12-2004, 10:33 PM	#24
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	I think the scrub thing is an urban legend. I get an email when someone is scrubbed. Furthermore, I have a denial page the customer gets when they have been scrubbed, pushing them with a last chance backup processor. I can see the stats on when that form is hit, and on top of that customers email and ask sometimes when they do get scrubbed. Bottom line - I don't think scrubs have ever amounted to more than 25% or so with CCBill for me, a big number yes, but not the reason for anybody's ratios falling off the earth. __________________ I have no signature

10-13-2004, 08:07 AM	#25
Porko SeeMyBucks.com Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,014	i reach 1:7030 yesterday

10-13-2004, 08:17 AM	#28
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	i only got 1 sale off my hegre's archive hun gallery yesterday, i usally avg 10-28 sales off my hun galleries. sucks for me. worst hun gallery ever __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

10-15-2004, 09:25 PM	#29
Nickless Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: homeless Posts: 1,955	still the same here

10-15-2004, 09:28 PM	#30
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	Is it just me or is it getting even worse now? __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

10-15-2004, 09:51 PM	#31
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	The past 2 weeks my ccbill sales have been down for sure.

10-15-2004, 09:57 PM	#32
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	1:400 or so the past 3 days.

10-15-2004, 10:01 PM	#33
Centurion Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SeATtle Posts: 6,033	Usually I don't buy into the "conspiracy theories", but either it's just totally coincidental, or something weird is going on. I'm used to seeing a dramatic one or two day drop off..but for the last 8 years I've never seen such a dramatic drop off in sales as I have with ccbill this last week. Maybe it is just coincidence and several 'bad" days just happened to come all together instead of spreading themselves out (I'm hoping of this one!) OR..something is up. Won't really be concerned unless the "trend" continues into next week (and saturdays have always been a good barometer for me). __________________

10-15-2004, 10:10 PM	#34
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Shit.. these are some disgusting stats... sorry folks. Now I know what not to spent time doing - tho it "seemed" a good possible project.

10-15-2004, 10:24 PM	#36
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	The sky is falling... The sky is falling... The sky is falling... The sky is falling!!! Sky seems pretty clear from where I sit. Sorry ya'all aren't having the same experiences...

10-16-2004, 04:17 PM	#37
Porko SeeMyBucks.com Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,014

10-16-2004, 04:18 PM	#38
Nickless Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: homeless Posts: 1,955	i'm at 1:4000+ and i've heard of 1:10000+ when the usual is no more than 1:1000 yes the sky is falling.

10-16-2004, 09:05 PM	#39
Nickless Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: homeless Posts: 1,955	nice to see all the 'would you hit it' threads up in here, what do you say gfy surfers, does ccbill decline your cards more often nowadays? :p

10-16-2004, 11:49 PM	#40
Porko SeeMyBucks.com Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USA Posts: 4,014	bump

10-17-2004, 04:25 AM	#41
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	I haven't seen those sort's of numbers since I left scrubbill for Verotel...

10-17-2004, 04:29 AM	#42
Babagirls Text Writer Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 18,812	why wouldnt they? where are you going to run to? ibill? __________________ Need a Text Writer? Blogs\|Reviews\|Descriptions\|Paysites\|TGP's\|Stories ICQ: 397892500

10-17-2004, 04:33 AM	#43
johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	Depends on the day, luck, database server, cookie loss etc. With Adultcashier my conversions are about the same as before with iBill as primary. __________________

10-17-2004, 11:33 AM	#45
maxxxxx Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 646	Last 3 days 1:7400, 1:3100 and 1:5000 while I'm usually at 1:1300 for all accounts on CCBill. Something's not right here... __________________ **Teen Harbour** - Home of Little Caprice ------------------------------------------------------------------- In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penisses, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.

10-17-2004, 12:25 PM	#46
Dirty D Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Paying Webmasters Millions Since 1999 Posts: 4,044	Yesterday was a record sales day for us We process hundreds of members per day, from thousands of affiliate partners. Anything that changes day to day is very apparent to us... CCbill rocks, our traffic and signups are steady... however traffic quality is not! We see huge swings in each affiliate's conversion rates. Each have good days and bad days - but not on the same days! Traffic sources are often dynamic so the quality will vary. (Chinese traffic is only good for trades - lol) Check us out, signup and get a check EVERY WEEK http://www.HowIgotRich.com 15 unique sites with exclusive content Every Promotional Tool for every type of traffic Send us traffic, we will convert it into a check every week like we do for all of our affiliate partners! __________________ Dirty D - ICQ #1326843 - $1 Million Dollars of Bonus Money - 8,000+ FHG! Glory Hole Girlz - Crack Whore Confessions - Tampa Bukkake - Slut Wife Training - Fuck a Fan Electricity Play - Porn Video Drive - Theater Sluts - Skunk Riley - Ukraine Amateurs - Strapon Sessions