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  • Nickless
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2003
    • 1955

    #1

    ccbill scrubbing harder lately?

    I've experienced incredibly high ratios with ccbill lately, and other people i've talked to, maybe ccbill is currently scrubbing harder to stay away from trouble? (with the recent ibill shit...) or it's completely unrelated?

    maybe it's not necessarily a bad thing now, just wanted to check how are everyone else's ccbill ratios doing lately?
  • xclusive
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Apr 2004
    • 35218

    #2
    No doubt about it but it differes from day to day...

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    • Porko
      SeeMyBucks.com
      • Sep 2002
      • 4014

      #3

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      • Nickless
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2003
        • 1955

        #4
        Originally posted by bimbo
        damn those are worse than mine

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        • 80smetal
          Registered User
          • Jun 2004
          • 505

          #5
          thats madness, let me say it first

          "Nothing wrong on our end, are you doing anything differently with your traffic"?

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          • Porko
            SeeMyBucks.com
            • Sep 2002
            • 4014

            #6
            my ratio is 6 times worst than same month of last year

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            • uchase/webpry
              So Fucking Banned
              • Aug 2004
              • 2085

              #7
              ... they harder they scrub, the softer they fall.

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              • pudcat
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                • Mar 2003
                • 1169

                #8
                My conversions are up a little
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                • studio
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 1095

                  #9
                  Guys, With #'s like that you should really be taking a look at pineapplepink.

                  I don't know how you can keep going that way. Pineapplepink this month, over all has converted 1 :325 That is based on all traffic the site received, TGP, SE, Banners in other paysites etc. Also it is figured on unique visitors to sign ups.

                  Take a look, sure can't hurt...

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                  • uchase/webpry
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 2085

                    #10
                    Originally posted by studio


                    Take a look, sure can't hurt...
                    ... I remember once someone dropped the soap and said the same to me.

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                    • Vitasoy
                      GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 58202

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bimbo

                      I got that doubled.

                      1:12164.0


                      Good thing I don't rely only on ccbill.


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                      • studio
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 1095

                        #12
                        ... I remember once someone dropped the soap and said the same to me.

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                        • TheSaint
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 991

                          #13
                          I'm really not seeing it. Some days off, some days great. I think it depends on the affiliate and their traffic. Take a look at some of mine - some convert at 0% no matter what they send and some guys convert on almost every click, damn if I can figire it out a lot of the time.

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                          • studio
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 1095

                            #14
                            I just refigured the conversion ratio... It is currently 1:307

                            You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it...

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                            • Bansheelinks
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 6023

                              #15
                              thats when you know they are trying to get under the bar, when ratios are forced to ridiculous levels like that.......get a few checks returned or some CB's? then you'll get the scrub so hard you'll be raw for days from ccbill......

                              i can't remember but one webmaster calls them scrubbill.......

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                              • gornyhuy
                                Chafed.
                                • May 2002
                                • 18041

                                #16
                                my ccbill stuff is really hurting bad. I used to rely almost 100% on those sites but now I can't deal with the roller coaster.

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                                • Nickless
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2003
                                  • 1955

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by studio
                                  Guys, With #'s like that you should really be taking a look at pineapplepink.

                                  I don't know how you can keep going that way. Pineapplepink this month, over all has converted 1 :325 That is based on all traffic the site received, TGP, SE, Banners in other paysites etc. Also it is figured on unique visitors to sign ups.

                                  Take a look, sure can't hurt...
                                  irrelevant, the same sites were doing way much better 2 weeks ago or a year ago for that matter, the ratio will eventually drop (i hope) we're talking scrubbing here, which your site is not immune to since you process with ccbill too

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                                  • Nickless
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 1955

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by TheSaint
                                    I'm really not seeing it. Some days off, some days great. I think it depends on the affiliate and their traffic. Take a look at some of mine - some convert at 0% no matter what they send and some guys convert on almost every click, damn if I can figire it out a lot of the time.

                                    [drool] is that se traffic?

                                    edit: nevermind i just noticed it's a main account, not affiliate.
                                    Last edited by Nickless; 10-12-2004, 09:04 PM.

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                                    • studio
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2004
                                      • 1095

                                      #19
                                      As a site owner, we are notified by e-mail when a sail is scrubed... and It is a very small % at least it has been at my site? I have never had a charge back either?

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                                      • Nickless
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2003
                                        • 1955

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by studio
                                        As a site owner, we are notified by e-mail when a sail is scrubed... and It is a very small % at least it has been at my site? I have never had a charge back either?
                                        your site is just 6 months old? give it some time

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                                        • Porko
                                          SeeMyBucks.com
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 4014

                                          #21


                                          yes, its a bad week

                                          * its a joke
                                          Last edited by Porko; 10-12-2004, 09:24 PM.

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                                          • The Bootyologist
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Jun 2004
                                            • 2912

                                            #22
                                            yes, it's bad

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                                            • PerfectionGirls
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 4484

                                              #23
                                              As a site owner, we are notified by e-mail when a sail is scrubed... and It is a very small % at least it has been at my site? I have never had a charge back either?

                                              True... we do get those emails if someone is rejected, but I bet there are others that we do not see or make it that far.

                                              As for chargebacks... we have had 16 chargeback this year. CCBill really seems to keep things in check which is a good thing for everyone. While i dont liek it when they scrub hard... I do like it that we are safe and sound.

                                              And Studio... hit me up.
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                                              • TheSaint
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 991

                                                #24
                                                I think the scrub thing is an urban legend. I get an email when someone is scrubbed. Furthermore, I have a denial page the customer gets when they have been scrubbed, pushing them with a last chance backup processor. I can see the stats on when that form is hit, and on top of that customers email and ask sometimes when they do get scrubbed.

                                                Bottom line - I don't think scrubs have ever amounted to more than 25% or so with CCBill for me, a big number yes, but not the reason for anybody's ratios falling off the earth.
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                                                • Porko
                                                  SeeMyBucks.com
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 4014

                                                  #25
                                                  i reach 1:7030 yesterday

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                                                  • BlingDaddy
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                                                    • Apr 2004
                                                    • 6343

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by bimbo
                                                    Looks like mine! LMAO
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                                                    • BlingDaddy
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                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                      • 6343

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by studio
                                                      As a site owner, we are notified by e-mail when a sail is scrubed... and It is a very small % at least it has been at my site? I have never had a charge back either?
                                                      You got me..... I'll sign up this week. I used to live in Lacrosse, WI. LMAO
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                                                      • fris
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                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 55701

                                                        #28
                                                        i only got 1 sale off my hegre's archive hun gallery yesterday, i usally avg 10-28 sales off my hun galleries. sucks for me. worst hun gallery ever
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                                                        • Nickless
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 1955

                                                          #29
                                                          still the same here

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                                                          • xclusive
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Apr 2004
                                                            • 35218

                                                            #30
                                                            Is it just me or is it getting even worse now?

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                                                            • DWB
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 31779

                                                              #31
                                                              The past 2 weeks my ccbill sales have been down for sure.

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                                                              • Sosa
                                                                In Tushy Land
                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 40149

                                                                #32
                                                                1:400 or so the past 3 days.

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                                                                • Centurion
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                  • 6033

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Usually I don't buy into the "conspiracy theories", but either it's just totally coincidental, or something weird is going on.

                                                                  I'm used to seeing a dramatic one or two day drop off..but for the last 8 years I've never seen such a dramatic drop off in sales as I have with ccbill this last week.

                                                                  Maybe it is just coincidence and several 'bad" days just happened to come all together instead of spreading themselves out (I'm hoping of this one!) OR..something is up.

                                                                  Won't really be concerned unless the "trend" continues into next week (and saturdays have always been a good barometer for me).

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                                                                  • Webby
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 14956

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Shit.. these are some disgusting stats... sorry folks.

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                                                                    • KDizzla
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 1795

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by fris
                                                                      i only got 1 sale off my hegre's archive hun gallery yesterday, i usally avg 10-28 sales off my hun galleries. sucks for me. worst hun gallery ever
                                                                      My hun listing last week sucked ass too. I think I only pulled 1 trial and 1 full.
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                                                                      • Donny
                                                                        As you wish...
                                                                        • May 2002
                                                                        • 13754

                                                                        #36
                                                                        The sky is falling...

                                                                        The sky is falling...

                                                                        The sky is falling...

                                                                        The sky is falling!!!


                                                                        Sky seems pretty clear from where I sit. Sorry ya'all aren't having the same experiences...

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                                                                        • Porko
                                                                          SeeMyBucks.com
                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                          • 4014

                                                                          #37

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                                                                          • Nickless
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                            • 1955

                                                                            #38
                                                                            i'm at 1:4000+ and i've heard of 1:10000+ when the usual is no more than 1:1000 yes the sky is falling.

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                                                                            • Nickless
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                              • 1955

                                                                              #39
                                                                              nice to see all the 'would you hit it' threads up in here, what do you say gfy surfers, does ccbill decline your cards more often nowadays? :p

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                                                                              • Porko
                                                                                SeeMyBucks.com
                                                                                • Sep 2002
                                                                                • 4014

                                                                                #40
                                                                                bump

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                                                                                • spooky181
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                  • 2951

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I haven't seen those sort's of numbers since I left scrubbill for Verotel...

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                                                                                  • Babagirls
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                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                    • 18812

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    why wouldnt they? where are you going to run to? ibill?




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                                                                                    • johndoebob
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                                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                                      • 3405

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Depends on the day, luck, database server, cookie loss etc.

                                                                                      With Adultcashier my conversions are about the same as before with iBill as primary.

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                                                                                      • johndoebob
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                        • 3405

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Nickless
                                                                                        [drool] is that se traffic?

                                                                                        edit: nevermind i just noticed it's a main account, not affiliate.
                                                                                        Yeah that's the big difference, sponsors will always get their money...

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                                                                                        • maxxxxx
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                                                          • 646

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Last 3 days 1:7400, 1:3100 and 1:5000 while I'm usually at 1:1300 for all accounts on CCBill. Something's not right here...


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                                                                                          • Dirty D
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                                                                                            • May 2002
                                                                                            • 4044

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Yesterday was a record sales day for us

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                                                                                            CCbill rocks, our traffic and signups are steady...
                                                                                            however traffic quality is not!

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                                                                                            Each have good days and bad days - but not on the same days!
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