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Nickless 10-12-2004 08:55 PM

ccbill scrubbing harder lately?
 
I've experienced incredibly high ratios with ccbill lately, and other people i've talked to, maybe ccbill is currently scrubbing harder to stay away from trouble? (with the recent ibill shit...) or it's completely unrelated?

maybe it's not necessarily a bad thing now, just wanted to check how are everyone else's ccbill ratios doing lately?

xclusive 10-12-2004 08:56 PM

No doubt about it but it differes from day to day...

Porko 10-12-2004 09:11 PM

http://www.imageshosted.com/images/426351ratiox.jpg

Nickless 10-12-2004 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bimbo
http://www.imageshosted.com/images/426351ratiox.jpg
damn those are worse than mine :(

80smetal 10-12-2004 09:30 PM

thats madness, let me say it first

"Nothing wrong on our end, are you doing anything differently with your traffic"?

Porko 10-12-2004 09:32 PM

my ratio is 6 times worst than same month of last year

uchase/webpry 10-12-2004 09:33 PM

... they harder they scrub, the softer they fall.

pudcat 10-12-2004 09:34 PM

My conversions are up a little

studio 10-12-2004 09:41 PM

Guys, With #'s like that you should really be taking a look at pineapplepink.

I don't know how you can keep going that way. Pineapplepink this month, over all has converted 1 :325 That is based on all traffic the site received, TGP, SE, Banners in other paysites etc. Also it is figured on unique visitors to sign ups.

Take a look, sure can't hurt...

uchase/webpry 10-12-2004 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by studio


Take a look, sure can't hurt...

... I remember once someone dropped the soap and said the same to me.

Vitasoy 10-12-2004 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bimbo
http://www.imageshosted.com/images/426351ratiox.jpg

I got that doubled.

1:12164.0


Good thing I don't rely only on ccbill.

studio 10-12-2004 09:44 PM

... I remember once someone dropped the soap and said the same to me.:1orglaugh

TheSaint 10-12-2004 09:47 PM

I'm really not seeing it. Some days off, some days great. I think it depends on the affiliate and their traffic. Take a look at some of mine - some convert at 0% no matter what they send and some guys convert on almost every click, damn if I can figire it out a lot of the time.

http://www.fareastmedia.com/gfy/stats.jpg

studio 10-12-2004 09:49 PM

I just refigured the conversion ratio... It is currently 1:307

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it...

Bansheelinks 10-12-2004 09:49 PM

thats when you know they are trying to get under the bar, when ratios are forced to ridiculous levels like that.......get a few checks returned or some CB's? then you'll get the scrub so hard you'll be raw for days from ccbill......

i can't remember but one webmaster calls them scrubbill.......

:1orglaugh

gornyhuy 10-12-2004 09:50 PM

my ccbill stuff is really hurting bad. I used to rely almost 100% on those sites but now I can't deal with the roller coaster.

Nickless 10-12-2004 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by studio
Guys, With #'s like that you should really be taking a look at pineapplepink.

I don't know how you can keep going that way. Pineapplepink this month, over all has converted 1 :325 That is based on all traffic the site received, TGP, SE, Banners in other paysites etc. Also it is figured on unique visitors to sign ups.

Take a look, sure can't hurt...

irrelevant, the same sites were doing way much better 2 weeks ago or a year ago for that matter, the ratio will eventually drop (i hope) we're talking scrubbing here, which your site is not immune to since you process with ccbill too :winkwink:

Nickless 10-12-2004 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSaint
I'm really not seeing it. Some days off, some days great. I think it depends on the affiliate and their traffic. Take a look at some of mine - some convert at 0% no matter what they send and some guys convert on almost every click, damn if I can figire it out a lot of the time.

http://www.fareastmedia.com/gfy/stats.jpg

[drool] is that se traffic?

edit: nevermind i just noticed it's a main account, not affiliate.

studio 10-12-2004 10:02 PM

As a site owner, we are notified by e-mail when a sail is scrubed... and It is a very small % at least it has been at my site? I have never had a charge back either?

Nickless 10-12-2004 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by studio
As a site owner, we are notified by e-mail when a sail is scrubed... and It is a very small % at least it has been at my site? I have never had a charge back either?
your site is just 6 months old? give it some time :Graucho

Porko 10-12-2004 10:21 PM

http://www.imageshosted.com/images/489302week.jpg

yes, its a bad week :(

* its a joke

The Bootyologist 10-12-2004 10:25 PM

yes, it's bad

PerfectionGirls 10-12-2004 10:26 PM

Quote:

As a site owner, we are notified by e-mail when a sail is scrubed... and It is a very small % at least it has been at my site? I have never had a charge back either?

True... we do get those emails if someone is rejected, but I bet there are others that we do not see or make it that far.

As for chargebacks... we have had 16 chargeback this year. CCBill really seems to keep things in check which is a good thing for everyone. While i dont liek it when they scrub hard... I do like it that we are safe and sound.

And Studio... hit me up.

TheSaint 10-12-2004 10:33 PM

I think the scrub thing is an urban legend. I get an email when someone is scrubbed. Furthermore, I have a denial page the customer gets when they have been scrubbed, pushing them with a last chance backup processor. I can see the stats on when that form is hit, and on top of that customers email and ask sometimes when they do get scrubbed.

Bottom line - I don't think scrubs have ever amounted to more than 25% or so with CCBill for me, a big number yes, but not the reason for anybody's ratios falling off the earth.

Porko 10-13-2004 08:07 AM

i reach 1:7030 yesterday :(

BlingDaddy 10-13-2004 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bimbo
http://www.imageshosted.com/images/426351ratiox.jpg
Looks like mine! LMAO
:1orglaugh

BlingDaddy 10-13-2004 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by studio
As a site owner, we are notified by e-mail when a sail is scrubed... and It is a very small % at least it has been at my site? I have never had a charge back either?
You got me..... I'll sign up this week. I used to live in Lacrosse, WI. LMAO

fris 10-13-2004 08:17 AM

i only got 1 sale off my hegre's archive hun gallery yesterday, i usally avg 10-28 sales off my hun galleries. sucks for me. worst hun gallery ever

Nickless 10-15-2004 09:25 PM

still the same here :helpme

xclusive 10-15-2004 09:28 PM

Is it just me or is it getting even worse now?

DWB 10-15-2004 09:51 PM

The past 2 weeks my ccbill sales have been down for sure.

Sosa 10-15-2004 09:57 PM

1:400 or so the past 3 days.

Centurion 10-15-2004 10:01 PM

Usually I don't buy into the "conspiracy theories", but either it's just totally coincidental, or something weird is going on.

I'm used to seeing a dramatic one or two day drop off..but for the last 8 years I've never seen such a dramatic drop off in sales as I have with ccbill this last week.

Maybe it is just coincidence and several 'bad" days just happened to come all together instead of spreading themselves out (I'm hoping of this one!) OR..something is up.

Won't really be concerned unless the "trend" continues into next week (and saturdays have always been a good barometer for me).

Webby 10-15-2004 10:10 PM

Shit.. these are some disgusting stats... sorry folks.

Now I know what not to spent time doing - tho it "seemed" a good possible project.

KDizzla 10-15-2004 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
i only got 1 sale off my hegre's archive hun gallery yesterday, i usally avg 10-28 sales off my hun galleries. sucks for me. worst hun gallery ever
My hun listing last week sucked ass too. I think I only pulled 1 trial and 1 full. :(

Donny 10-15-2004 10:24 PM

The sky is falling...

The sky is falling...

The sky is falling...

The sky is falling!!!


Sky seems pretty clear from where I sit. Sorry ya'all aren't having the same experiences...

Porko 10-16-2004 04:17 PM

http://www.imageshosted.com/images/132967ratiox.jpg

Nickless 10-16-2004 04:18 PM

i'm at 1:4000+ and i've heard of 1:10000+ when the usual is no more than 1:1000 yes the sky is falling. :ticking

Nickless 10-16-2004 09:05 PM

nice to see all the 'would you hit it' threads up in here, what do you say gfy surfers, does ccbill decline your cards more often nowadays? :p

Porko 10-16-2004 11:49 PM

bump

spooky181 10-17-2004 04:25 AM

I haven't seen those sort's of numbers since I left scrubbill for Verotel...:glugglug

Babagirls 10-17-2004 04:29 AM

why wouldnt they? where are you going to run to? ibill? :(

johndoebob 10-17-2004 04:33 AM

Depends on the day, luck, database server, cookie loss etc.

With Adultcashier my conversions are about the same as before with iBill as primary.

johndoebob 10-17-2004 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nickless
[drool] is that se traffic?

edit: nevermind i just noticed it's a main account, not affiliate.

Yeah that's the big difference, sponsors will always get their money...

maxxxxx 10-17-2004 11:33 AM

Last 3 days 1:7400, 1:3100 and 1:5000 while I'm usually at 1:1300 for all accounts on CCBill. Something's not right here...

Dirty D 10-17-2004 12:25 PM

Yesterday was a record sales day for us :thumbsup

We process hundreds of members per day, from thousands of affiliate partners. Anything that changes day to day is very apparent to us...

CCbill rocks, our traffic and signups are steady...
however traffic quality is not!

We see huge swings in each affiliate's conversion rates.
Each have good days and bad days - but not on the same days!
Traffic sources are often dynamic so the quality will vary.
(Chinese traffic is only good for trades - lol)

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