seeric

if i were an american citizen heading to the polls on nov 2nd, i would want to see this documentary and the amazing facts that are revealed. thanks to the very ammendment that protects us, and the very same ammendment that the administration is trying to squeeze the life out of as we speak; no one was able to stop the cold hard facts from being revealed to the world. you bet your ass the bush administration did everything they could to shut michael moore up next to killing him. but the constitution protected him. he's probably lucky to be alive at this point. normally, i am the biggest political critic of documentaries designed to smeer someone for political reasons, but gees, the cold hard facts and history, not to mention the public documents uncovered, definitely do not put GWB in the best position right now. i could normally argue some kind of conspiracy to affect the political outcome, but even my political ass can't stand up and argue that in this situation. this film does to GWB what the bloody glove did to Oj in that murder case years ago. i'm glad i waited this long to see it, becasue the events over the past 3 months drive the message home more clearly than had i seen it when it first came out. WOW. see this film folks. i hope you're not bush believer when you start watching this feature, because you might have a life changing experience in your lazy boy watching this baby!

DavidVH

it was alright. people just hate michael moore no matter what he does.

Marcus Aurelius

Yeah. and we see how bad that turned out for OJ.

Theo

use periods

seeric

i love him. all media should report like that

seeric

no

KRL

They both suck.

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mouse

i just got the movie, and am about to watch it right now. will post later on about it. am not a bush fan myself.

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What worries me is that the US President has so much financial involvement with a foriegn power.

The Presidency can't be bought? Tell that to the Saudis.

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bringer

michael moore has great editing techniques, ill give him that. he cuts out anything that might weaken his arguement and has a great way of controlling the mindless. he complains how the media uses fear to get people to conform, but it is him that has mastered this technique.

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LiveDose

that movie was lame.

J$tyle$

Don't believe EVERYTHING you hear, see, or read by anyone in the media INCLUDING Michael Moore. Clever editibg, misquotes, and general statements taken out of context abound my friend!

That's not to say there is not an element of truth to SOME aspects of what is reported or "documented" - but you gotta see that MOST news today is BIASED ... and that fat fuck Moore is BIASED too!



Both may touch upon FACTS but c'mon, man - you just watched propaganda that was specifically produced to affect the feelings you sucumbed too ... Michael Moores version of TRUTH!



BTW - I haven't seen the movie

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CET

Moore uses half truths, misrepresentations and lies to make most all of his points. Anyone who turns to that propogandist for an education should not be voting.

The Bush family has connections to the Saudi royal family, therefore they have a connection to the Bin Laden family. Therfore the Bush family had something to do with 9/11 so that they could steal a bunch of oil for their buddies in Texas.

Anyone who believes this conspiracy theory BS needs to wear a tin foil hat so that the rest of us can identify them easily so as to save our breaths by not talking to them.

Now, go read your news from a whole bunch of different sources and thing about it yourself without anyone else's help. If you come up with this shit by yourself, then you were a looney anway.

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you should
its interesting

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SleazyDream

if i was an american I'd be a democrat and i HATED that film. i found it to be HUGLY biast - untruthful, and soo ultra propaganda that it made me sick. it dragged on and on in the middle too - very boring listing to the same mother WHINE on and on about her dead son. booo ho ho ho - guess what mommy -you kid was too fucking dumb to be able to find any other employment than the army - guess what - he's GOING to get shot at. duuuu some will get killed. just a fact. i didn't see micheal filming the thousands of young families the army supports with a good income.

i'm NOT a bush supporter but he def deserves more credit than that film gives him. He is the ruler of the free world after all - fixed election or not, that requires more then one or two brain cells rattling around up there on his shoulders. - ewww - i just got a shudder down my spine - i stood up for bush.... that felt WEIRD..

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seeric

thats what i initially thought when i first decided to watch it. but the facts are facts. it doesn't take spielberg putting it together to tie these knots.

J$tyle$

I plan to next week!

J$tyle$

So, what exactly are the facts?

bringer

not facts, half truths
that woman who lost her son was in there a few times, where were the other familys who support the war and lost children? im sure they exist
i also personally know about "peace fresno"
there are nothing like michael moore depicted them to be

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J$tyle$

Farenheit 911 = ideavirus

Need to have Moore do a piece on VideoPass.com

seeric

you gotta see it dog. i have a very strong brain politically. not a bandwagonner. i think both candidates are idiots. i ignored the editing. the facts cannot be edited. they can be edited in a timeline for effect i guess, but if moore got this lucky with all these facts, that dude should be buying lottery tickets.

LMAO

Persius

Bush sucks and vote for kerry nuff said....

bringer

stick with the truth, thats enough to get people to vote kerry
no reason to make up bullshit that only weakens your arguement and support for kerry

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seeric

gotcha.

right right. thats why i started this thread i wanted to see how other people absorbed it.

J$tyle$

I totally hear you, and I'm not bashing you at all, brotha!

I'm going to watch it next week when I get back from Vegas for sure.

Seriously though, before even seeing it - I know what Moore's agenda is so it's hard to take this "mockumentery" at face value.

Drake

Did you eat popcorn while you were watching?

bringer

put michael moore in the back of your mind and just watch it
even with what you already know, you know you're not getting the whole story or anything close to it

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CET

You're kidding, right? Most of those "facts" are out of context and a few of them are just plain bullshit.

Fiftysix Deceits in Farenheit 911

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Facts cannot be edited? I have no idea how to respond to such a comment.

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seeric

call me. i'm up.

cspdinc

my family was friends of ronny raygun and My uncle personally traveled on trips with henry kissenger.

The oil connections are 100% true, in fact they run even deeper than it was shown. The US is posturing to control all the oil in the world when the sauds run out in 42 years, and the Sauds know that and are preparing in like.

Moores a idiot but the truth was in there in bits and pieces.

bringer

ronny raygun?

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smack

saw it. great movie, great points.

reinforced my hatred of bush.

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dig420

Isn't it funny how no repubs have ever been able to point out where the fat fuck lied? They just bitch and complain about how unpatriotic he is for pointing out that conservatives have their heads buried deep in their asses.

DOesn't matter. If it turns out that Bush was cloned from Hitler's DNA in a fucking jungle somewhere half the population of this country is stupid enough to vote for him.

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I not seen it yet actually.

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cspdinc

ronny raygun= ronald reagan.

My dad used to have lunch with him when ronnie was in office. I remember lots of black cars all the time. I really didnt give a darn about politics. I was working defense with a clearence and could do what ever I wanted where ever I wanted.

now im just hiding out till I figure out what to do with my life as I burned a lot of bridges back home.

Drake

It's a film worth watching and making up your mind about it. Whether you think it's accurate or transparent propaganda tool, it does make you ask some serious questions.

smack

56 eh? that's a small fraction of the number of bullshit lines bush jams down your throat on a consistant basis.

i'll tell you what, start compiling a list and counting all the lies bush and his admin have told us in the last 4 years.

start countring bro. it's gonna take a while.

and i don't think michael moore has ever mislead us into war.

i could be wrong, i'll have to check on that though.

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seeric

yeah, no argument on the moores an idiot thing. thats why i didnt want to watch it, but i finally broke down

seeric

hey man, was nice seeing and meeting you at kimmy kim and aly's birthday party that night.

bringer

so its ok michael moore lies because bush does too? bullshit
"so what if i drink and drive, bobby does it too"
moore is a dangerous person, and next time he might attack something or someone who you dont agree with using his bullshit spin

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jade_dragon

I found Moore came dangersously close to violating the journalistic integrity he is so proud to claim he has and others lack. There was a lot of creative editing, lots of splicing but this was not nearly as bad as what was going on in the interviews. In a court of law, any competant council of the opposite side would have claimed Moore was leading the witness and any competant judge would have agreed. He basically lead the interviews, controlled them and put words in the mouth of the people. A good interview is one where the person doing the interview asks questions and then allows the other person to speak freely about it, you can lead a person without being blatantly forceful as he was. He absolutely made sure that the person said exactly what he wanted them to. This honestly suprised me as I found Bowling for Columbine to be devoid of this and enjoyed it because of that fact. The rest of the movie was good but I could have done without the beginning splices and leading of interviews which I feel threatened the credibility of the rest of the movie, I was glad it stopped and had a more natural flow after that.

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The word is that there is very little truth in the film. Half truths maybe. Moore is an asshole.. If you choose to be one of the sheep, go for it. It does his side no real justice. Maybe he's balance for Limbaugh?

Sorry to say most Americans don't pay attention to details and assume if it's a "documentry" it must be right.

lazycash

Now that you've watched it, to be fair, go see www.farenhype911.com so you can find out about those "facts" you were referring to.

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Toolz

Hey if one 1/10th of 1% about the Saudi Oil influence is correct why would you want to vote for someone like that?

BTW, they're trying to arrest Moore here in Michigan for giving out clean underwear for votes:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/me...ate=2004-10-06

spanky part 2

Then shut the fuck up, you uninformed fool.

chaze

How typical from a Bush suporter to try and sell this.

That cracks me up, those fricken idiots

Shok

I saw it last night.

for the most part it was pretty boring.

Showing a few kids flying a kite in Baghdad and asking, "are these people oppressed by saddam" was just fucking stupid.


It's filled with situations like that and if you had half a brain you can easily see through Moore's bullshit smokescreen.

Manowar

Yep, Vote kerry.