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JFK · 10-09-2004, 06:42 AM

fitty Moore fans

seeric · 10-09-2004, 02:52 PM

yep! thats why this thread was started. to try and drag the "truths", "half truths", and everything else out of other people that have seen it.

i know one thing, i don't trust any damn body in the government above the pay grade of a meter maid at the capitol building. when i was in the military, i sat on top of a bunker of nukes while we watched bushy senior go on and on about how there are no nukes in south korea. HA! my ass. straight up lied to the american people on t.v., and didn't even blink. i guess its true, people can't know everything, they wouldn't be able to handle the truth, but lying is lying.

no matter who wins the election we are still doomed for 4 more years.

Tom_PMs · 10-09-2004, 03:08 PM

"Lying is lying." A simple concept that, for some reason, when the liars feed some people enough shit enough times, people rationalize and forgive the lies.
It's amazing isnt it?

It is entertaining though to watch people repeat the same rhetoric they see on tv as their own reasonings.

And the attempts to deflect from the content of the movie to the movie creator is always good for a laugh.
I didnt read all of this thread, but I bet some people complained about moore as a reason to ignore all of the content, didnt they? lol.

Anyway, yes it is an interesting set of facts and one mans opinion about the reasons behind the facts and so forth.

seeric · 10-09-2004, 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by Tom_PM
"Lying is lying." A simple concept that, for some reason, when the liars feed some people enough shit enough times, people rationalize and forgive the lies.
It's amazing isnt it?

It is entertaining though to watch people repeat the same rhetoric they see on tv as their own reasonings.

And the attempts to deflect from the content of the movie to the movie creator is always good for a laugh.
I didnt read all of this thread, but I bet some people complained about moore as a reason to ignore all of the content, didnt they? lol.

Anyway, yes it is an interesting set of facts and one mans opinion about the reasons behind the facts and so forth.

yes, plenty of moore bashers. i don't have an opinion on him really either. i lean towards, he has an alterior motive, but there are too many things that couldn't go his way if they weren't true.

whatever is true is even a consideration, its how it affects people and how it makes them react at the polls, so for people like me who already have cast a vote of no confidence for both sides, movies like this don't help me either way.

why the hell did i post this thread? LMAO

datatank · 10-09-2004, 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
Isn't it funny how no repubs have ever been able to point out where the fat fuck lied? They just bitch and complain about how unpatriotic he is for pointing out that conservatives have their heads buried deep in their asses.

DOesn't matter. If it turns out that Bush was cloned from Hitler's DNA in a fucking jungle somewhere half the population of this country is stupid enough to vote for him.

Check this out
http://www.newsfly.org/news/moore_f911_fixed.htm

J$tyle$ · 10-09-2004, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
Isn't it funny how no repubs have ever been able to point out where the fat fuck lied? They just bitch and complain about how unpatriotic he is for pointing out that conservatives have their heads buried deep in their asses.

DOesn't matter. If it turns out that Bush was cloned from Hitler's DNA in a fucking jungle somewhere half the population of this country is stupid enough to vote for him.

Did you see anything in my post that says I'm a republican, B?

Re-read it and hear what I'm saying - I don't trust either side!

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Originally posted by spanky part 2
Then shut the fuck up, you uninformed fool.

Eat a fat cock you stupid fuck. The fact that I didn't see the movie has no bearing on the statement I made!

You have no conception for the point I was making and obviously you're reading comprehension level is sub 6th grade

LOL

You're just another SHEEP that can't fuckin' read!

Talkin' about fools, you better check the mirror!

seeric · 10-09-2004, 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by J$tyle$

Eat a fat cock you stupid fuck. The fact that I didn't see the movie has no bearing on the statement I made!

You have no conception for the point I was making and obviously you're reading comprehension level is sub 6th grade

LOL

You're just another SHEEP that can't fuckin' read!

Talkin' about fools, you better check the mirror!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA major ownage! riddled even.

adis55 · 10-09-2004, 08:30 PM

whats so hard to understand about this fucked up situation?

Cheney was CEO of Haliburton ( HAL ) , a company that supplies US ARMY. Enron , the biggest scandal of all times, was the No1. source of funds for Bush 4 years ago.

Bush Sr. is majority owner of Carlyle Group . Carlyle Group owns United Defense , company that makes Bradleys, tanks etc...

Carlyle Group went public just prior to Iraq war...

I mean, WTF.... using tax payers $ to fund your own companies is the best scam I ever heard of.

All of the above are facts, except its hard to prove who is really involved with Carlyle Group..but its enough to cause smoke..and where there is smoke..there is fire..

Paul Markham · 10-09-2004, 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Moore uses half truths, misrepresentations and lies to make most all of his points. Anyone who turns to that propogandist for an education should not be voting.

The Bush family has connections to the Saudi royal family, therefore they have a connection to the Bin Laden family. Therfore the Bush family had something to do with 9/11 so that they could steal a bunch of oil for their buddies in Texas.

Anyone who believes this conspiracy theory BS needs to wear a tin foil hat so that the rest of us can identify them easily so as to save our breaths by not talking to them.

Now, go read your news from a whole bunch of different sources and thing about it yourself without anyone else's help. If you come up with this shit by yourself, then you were a looney anway.

Moore never said Bush had connection with 9/11.

He did say that the Bush family has big financial involvement with the Saudis, that he flew the Bin Ladens out of the US immediately after 9/11 and a few other things.

Accusing Moore of being biased and then accepting what Bush tells you is the height of stupidity. Bush killed thousands based on false evidence or did he not want to listen to anything else?

In a tight spot and yoyu had to believe ONLY ONE PERSON who would you trust more Bush or Moore? No third option.

Paul Markham · 10-09-2004, 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by J$tyle$
So, what exactly are the facts?

See the film and do the research like Moore did.

It id biased but no more biased than most other political documentaries, but there are too many facts that emerge that show Bush to be flawed.

Or do you like the fact that your President and his family are so heavily indebted to a foriegn power? Any foriegn power.

Paul Markham · 10-09-2004, 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by Shok
I saw it last night.

for the most part it was pretty boring.

Showing a few kids flying a kite in Baghdad and asking, "are these people oppressed by saddam" was just fucking stupid.

It's filled with situations like that and if you had half a brain you can easily see through Moore's bullshit smokescreen.

If Saddam was to stand for election what do you think his chances are of winning, assuming the Occupying Forces allow for a truly democratic election.

I would place money on the Iraqia voting him back in by huge landslide.

Paul Markham · 10-10-2004, 12:09 AM

Moore is biased and his editing clearly shows it. You have to understand that before you watch the film.

But just finding that one statement is a lie or that he's a "Hostile Witness" for the prosecution does not discount the rest of his argument.

If that were the rules and they have to be applied to Bush as well.

seeric · 10-10-2004, 03:41 AM

i really dont know what to think anymore, anyone with this mess to deal with in the office of president is setting themselves upfor failure.

Verbal · 10-10-2004, 05:59 AM

Bush is in office and the price of oil has never been higher, but ofcourse there can't POSSIBLY be ANY kind of connection. How could the former governer of Texas, who's family is in the oil business have anything to do with that ... you'd be a fool to think this! You're a bunch of sheep!

jpv · 10-10-2004, 07:21 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
if i was an american I'd be a democrat and i HATED that film. i found it to be HUGLY biast - untruthful, and soo ultra propaganda that it made me sick. it dragged on and on in the middle too - very boring listing to the same mother WHINE on and on about her dead son. booo ho ho ho - guess what mommy -you kid was too fucking dumb to be able to find any other employment than the army - guess what - he's GOING to get shot at. duuuu some will get killed. just a fact. i didn't see micheal filming the thousands of young families the army supports with a good income.

i'm NOT a bush supporter but he def deserves more credit than that film gives him. He is the ruler of the free world after all - fixed election or not, that requires more then one or two brain cells rattling around up there on his shoulders. - ewww - i just got a shudder down my spine - i stood up for bush.... that felt WEIRD..

One thing that is very bad in this country is how the army recruits kids. They try to convince kids that they are going to a camp for a little while, get in shape, get a few skills, go home, then go to college for free. They never talk about war. They are always saying war is not probable.... 'no, no, no, son. you are just going to get a few skills and become trained. We then send you to college for free then you can do anything you want'. They target kids who don't know the system or war.

When I was in the 5th grade, a couple years before the Gulf War, army recruiters came in to talk to us in small groups. They played the song 'proud to be an american' over and over and told us all about the great skills we can get and the free education. I was from a generation that has never seen war... at that age kids don't fully understand war. I think about what they did and it makes me sick. I was vulnerable at that age. They were instilling half truths into my mind so I would lean towards signing up after high school. Luckily I had a grandfather who was in WWII and I saw his physical wounds and he always was showing me pictures from the war and all of his friends who died. So I saw what war could do.

Moore showed some of this in the movie then showed the young immature kids running off to war playing rock songs to get them pumped up and killing 8 year old innocent kids. They were also abusing prisoners who were soldiers... not terrorists... soldiers of Iraq.

The recruiting in this country is sick. Poor kids don't look to the army for EMPLOYMENT because they are too dumb... they look to the army to help pay for higher education because they are too poor.

NoCarrier · 10-10-2004, 07:23 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
if i was an american I'd be a democrat and i HATED that film. i found it to be HUGLY biast - untruthful, and soo ultra propaganda that it made me sick. it dragged on and on in the middle too - very boring listing to the same mother WHINE on and on about her dead son. booo ho ho ho - guess what mommy -you kid was too fucking dumb to be able to find any other employment than the army - guess what - he's GOING to get shot at. duuuu some will get killed. just a fact. i didn't see micheal filming the thousands of young families the army supports with a good income.

i'm NOT a bush supporter but he def deserves more credit than that film gives him. He is the ruler of the free world after all - fixed election or not, that requires more then one or two brain cells rattling around up there on his shoulders. - ewww - i just got a shudder down my spine - i stood up for bush.... that felt WEIRD..

Idiot

groark · 10-10-2004, 07:34 AM

Yeah that movie is quite entertaining

kenny · 10-10-2004, 07:37 AM

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Originally posted by jpv
One thing that is very bad in this country is how the army recruits kids. They try to convince kids that they are going to a camp for a little while, get in shape, get a few skills, go home, then go to college for free. They never talk about war. They are always saying war is not probable.... 'no, no, no, son. you are just going to get a few skills and become trained. We then send you to college for free then you can do anything you want'. They target kids who don't know the system or war.

When I was in the 5th grade, a couple years before the Gulf War, army recruiters came in to talk to us in small groups. They played the song 'proud to be an american' over and over and told us all about the great skills we can get and the free education. I was from a generation that has never seen war... at that age kids don't fully understand war. I think about what they did and it makes me sick. I was vulnerable at that age. They were instilling half truths into my mind so I would lean towards signing up after high school. Luckily I had a grandfather who was in WWII and I saw his physical wounds and he always was showing me pictures from the war and all of his friends who died. So I saw what war could do.

Moore showed some of this in the movie then showed the young immature kids running off to war playing rock songs to get them pumped up and killing 8 year old innocent kids. They were also abusing prisoners who were soldiers... not terrorists... soldiers of Iraq.

The recruiting in this country is sick. Poor kids don't look to the army for EMPLOYMENT because they are too dumb... they look to the army to help pay for higher education because they are too poor.

Then how come everytime I see a recruitment commercial the person is in the middle east carrying a gun?

Come on.. you act like people don't know what a army is for

SuckOnThis · 10-10-2004, 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by bringer
so its ok michael moore lies because bush does too? bullshit
"so what if i drink and drive, bobby does it too"
moore is a dangerous person, and next time he might attack something or someone who you dont agree with using his bullshit spin

Have you even seen the movie? Everyone I know that trashes the movie have not seen it and refuses to watch it, they've been brainwashed by right wing talk show hosts whom havent seen it either. The movie basically confirmed everything I already knew, of course its biased, why shouldnt it be? Anyone with half a brain can see this is the most corrupt administration in US history. Moore sees this and wants to expose them, yet he's a prick for doing so.

Unless you're a major stockholder of Halliburton or a high ranking republican not only are you a fucking idiot for defending this administration but you are allowing a group of people to screw the American public and profit off of your ignorance.

bringer · 10-10-2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Have you even seen the movie? Everyone I know that trashes the movie have not seen it and refuses to watch it, they've been brainwashed by right wing talk show hosts whom havent seen it either. The movie basically confirmed everything I already knew, of course its biased, why shouldnt it be? Anyone with half a brain can see this is the most corrupt administration in US history. Moore sees this and wants to expose them, yet he's a prick for doing so.

i own the fucking movie
its sitting right here
you are the idiot who wont accept michael moores bullshit simpley because it puts this current administration in a bad light. read your post, it basicly confirms it.

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis

Unless you're a major stockholder of Halliburton or a high ranking republican not only are you a fucking idiot for defending this administration but you are allowing a group of people to screw the American public and profit off of your ignorance.

where did i defend the administration? when i said moore was an idiot who told nothing but 1/2 truths? if he said bush eats babies and i said it was a lie does that mean im a bush supporter?

SuckOnThis · 10-10-2004, 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by bringer
i own the fucking movie
its sitting right here
you are the idiot who wont accept michael moores bullshit simpley because it puts this current administration in a bad light.

I didnt ask you if you owned it, I asked you if you watched it. Supporting this admin out of ignorance is one thing, supporting them when you know the truth is borderline criminal.

bringer · 10-10-2004, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
I didnt ask you if you owned it, I asked you if you watched it. Supporting this admin out of ignorance is one thing, supporting them when you know the truth is borderline criminal.

attention suckonthis:
I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS ADMINISTRATION
you want everything moore said to be nothing but facts which they arent.
yes, ive watched it 5-6 times, maybe ill watch it right now.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-10-2004, 11:06 AM

The movie was good , but michael moore fabricates evidence and makes intentional mistakes to bolster his own theories. He has done this so many times in the past.

Remember bowling for columbine. He makes blanket accusations and wild blown out theories like haliburton had something to do with the kids freaking out.

Many of the "facts" he throws out in 9/11 are nothing more than stabs in the dark. Many are intentional mistruth's that he uses to create a character for him to attack.

He made most people believe the saudi's were flown out of the u.s.a. while all other aircraft were grounded.

What he forgets to mention is, the saudi's that flew out , flew out just like any american can and did, there was no special treatment, and days aftewr 9/11 we still didn't have any reason to stop them.

What someone needs to do is make a documentry about michael moore.

10-09-2004, 06:42 AM	#51
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10-09-2004, 02:52 PM	#52
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	yep! thats why this thread was started. to try and drag the "truths", "half truths", and everything else out of other people that have seen it. i know one thing, i don't trust any damn body in the government above the pay grade of a meter maid at the capitol building. when i was in the military, i sat on top of a bunker of nukes while we watched bushy senior go on and on about how there are no nukes in south korea. HA! my ass. straight up lied to the american people on t.v., and didn't even blink. i guess its true, people can't know everything, they wouldn't be able to handle the truth, but lying is lying. no matter who wins the election we are still doomed for 4 more years. Last edited by seeric; 10-09-2004 at 02:53 PM..

10-09-2004, 03:08 PM	#53
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	"Lying is lying." A simple concept that, for some reason, when the liars feed some people enough shit enough times, people rationalize and forgive the lies. It's amazing isnt it? It is entertaining though to watch people repeat the same rhetoric they see on tv as their own reasonings. And the attempts to deflect from the content of the movie to the movie creator is always good for a laugh. I didnt read all of this thread, but I bet some people complained about moore as a reason to ignore all of the content, didnt they? lol. Anyway, yes it is an interesting set of facts and one mans opinion about the reasons behind the facts and so forth. __________________ You've read it, you can't unread it.

10-10-2004, 12:09 AM	#62
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Moore is biased and his editing clearly shows it. You have to understand that before you watch the film. But just finding that one statement is a lie or that he's a "Hostile Witness" for the prosecution does not discount the rest of his argument. If that were the rules and they have to be applied to Bush as well. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

10-10-2004, 11:06 AM	#73
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	The movie was good , but michael moore fabricates evidence and makes intentional mistakes to bolster his own theories. He has done this so many times in the past. Remember bowling for columbine. He makes blanket accusations and wild blown out theories like haliburton had something to do with the kids freaking out. Many of the "facts" he throws out in 9/11 are nothing more than stabs in the dark. Many are intentional mistruth's that he uses to create a character for him to attack. He made most people believe the saudi's were flown out of the u.s.a. while all other aircraft were grounded. What he forgets to mention is, the saudi's that flew out , flew out just like any american can and did, there was no special treatment, and days aftewr 9/11 we still didn't have any reason to stop them. What someone needs to do is make a documentry about michael moore. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-09-2004, 08:30 PM	#58
adis55 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ft.Lauderdale Posts: 193	whats so hard to understand about this fucked up situation? Cheney was CEO of Haliburton ( HAL ) , a company that supplies US ARMY. Enron , the biggest scandal of all times, was the No1. source of funds for Bush 4 years ago. Bush Sr. is majority owner of Carlyle Group . Carlyle Group owns United Defense , company that makes Bradleys, tanks etc... Carlyle Group went public just prior to Iraq war... I mean, WTF.... using tax payers $ to fund your own companies is the best scam I ever heard of. All of the above are facts, except its hard to prove who is really involved with Carlyle Group..but its enough to cause smoke..and where there is smoke..there is fire..

10-10-2004, 03:41 AM	#63
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	i really dont know what to think anymore, anyone with this mess to deal with in the office of president is setting themselves upfor failure.

10-10-2004, 05:59 AM	#64
Verbal Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,420	Bush is in office and the price of oil has never been higher, but ofcourse there can't POSSIBLY be ANY kind of connection. How could the former governer of Texas, who's family is in the oil business have anything to do with that ... you'd be a fool to think this! You're a bunch of sheep!

10-10-2004, 07:34 AM	#67
groark So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 1,966	Yeah that movie is quite entertaining