Abby Winters promotes cheating their affiliates - GoFuckYourself.com

Dpope · 10-07-2004, 12:06 PM

Hard to believe... but it's true.

Abby started a thread on their website bitching about the costs of affiliates and explaining how they will get more money if the surfer deletes the cookies before they sign up.

See for yourself at:

http://www.abbywinters.com/vbulletin...ed=1#post20628

Spread it to other boards...

These people are shit if they will tell their members and potential members how to cheat the affiliates out of their marketing efforts.

andrey · 10-07-2004, 01:44 PM

No Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster

scoreman · 10-07-2004, 01:46 PM

http://www.q-tease.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=306

Manowar · 10-07-2004, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scoreman
http://www.q-tease.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=306

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 10-07-2004, 01:56 PM

thats some fucked up shit! ..she is busted

seven · 10-07-2004, 02:08 PM

who the fuck really cares? didn't even know about that site til now lol also 50% and no rebill? That's a joke I tell you

GuestHouse · 10-07-2004, 02:17 PM

OK, I wonder how that site will survive now. I bet it lives cos of it's affiliates - which he/she/they are fucking bad. And at the same time him/her/them-self!

If you don't want affiliates - get your own traffic, but stop being a jerkass ripping of those that help you make money!

adultguus · 10-07-2004, 02:31 PM

I read the screen caps on your site. I simply don't believe this. It's like you stated there. If you hate your affiliates so badly, why have a affiliate program at all!

Unbelievable!

DVTimes · 10-07-2004, 02:35 PM

detoxed · 10-07-2004, 02:40 PM

adultguus · 10-07-2004, 02:44 PM

I posted some 'nice' pieces of my mind in the Abby Winters forum. I wonder how long it will be there, before deleted

PrivateIvy · 10-07-2004, 02:46 PM

Some people are just clueless when it comes to business

Ivy

DVTimes · 10-07-2004, 02:56 PM

Quote:

We are unlike most adult websites. We are run differently, our members expect different things, and our content is different to what you may be used to.

All of these things combined means we run our affiliate program differently to what you might be used to. While we're interested in growing our site, we're not going to do the things many affiliates demand. We'd love to have you on board, but our site is doing just fine without you.

Series · 10-07-2004, 02:58 PM

Wow... thanks for the heads-up

Fake Nick · 10-07-2004, 03:34 PM

the actual thread is easyier to read

http://www.abbywinters.com/vbulletin...ead.php?t=2182

pornguy · 10-07-2004, 03:40 PM

Did any of you look at the women that she has in the tour??

Yuck.

I can not imagine why someone would pay for that.

There are tons of amateur sites out there with better looking women.

emthree · 10-07-2004, 03:43 PM

what dumb and clueless broad

The Other Steve · 10-07-2004, 03:43 PM

Last time I heard, the 'she' of Abbey Winters was actually a 'he'.

quantum-x · 10-07-2004, 03:44 PM

Hah, 50%? Don't be kidding!
Abby Winters is probably one of the rudest, people I've met in this industry.

Here's a summary
45% Initial - No Rebills!

I emailed her about this. Here's her reply.

Quote:

Hi Simon

The cut we offer does not change over time.

We run the program how we see fit. Plenty of people don't like it, and
that's fine - we're not desperate for affiliates.

Looking at the sample designs you provide, I don't think we're compatible
anyway.

pornstar2pac · 10-07-2004, 03:44 PM

next she will be talking about placing tiny little classified ads in newspapers to make millions

stocktrader23 · 10-07-2004, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Other Steve
Last time I heard, the 'she' of Abbey Winters was actually a 'he'.

Which was my first though anyhow.

DVTimes · 10-07-2004, 03:58 PM

So who does promote his/her site?

If so do you do well from it.

I will not promote it at all.

Series · 10-07-2004, 04:16 PM

haha... now you're a spammer if you host with webair... what a joke... http://www.abbywinters.com/vbulletin...ead.php?t=2798

CDSmith · 10-07-2004, 04:17 PM

This from one of her site members....

Quote:

are you saying that 50% of what comes out of my Credit card goes to some mongrel company that dont do nothing for this site???

I can understand when a non-webmaster doesn't grasp the fact that the affilliate (referring) webmaster had to work very hard for many hours also, to build his sites and pages and to promote and get the traffic so that dear Abby could have him as a member.

But she should know better. Checked this out, in Abby's post....

Quote:

My main problem with the affs, is that I work my arse off 80, 90 hours a week to make the site as best as I possibly can. The staff I employ work hard as well, and they care about the site too. Yet I have to give away HALF of my gross to some lazy (six to ten hours a week's work) guys who make a few web pages with MY images, and post them on the net!?

Hardly seems fair...

But to look at it from their side, they know the places and ways to post these pages of my images for the most amount of sales - that honestly does takes time and experience. And, some - they argue most - of their joins would never have found my site, and incrementally, it does not cost me much to add a member to the site... so it's income I'd be otherwise missing out on.

I don't pay out rebills

Sorry, but this Abby is an utterly clueless bitch of the worst order.

1. Why HAVE an affiliate program at all if you're just going to bitch about having to pay them?

2. Excuse me bitch, but you wouldn't even HAVE most of your members if not for them finding their way to your site via affilliate links.

3. You don't pay affiliates on rebills? Ha ha.... then those who ARE promoting Abby's site are also clueless morons. Why not send your traffic to a pay-per-signup that pays out TWICE what Abby is paying?? Or join a decent partnership program that does pay on rebills.

Holy shit I cannot believe the bitch cut her own throat like this. I would never promote a site where the owner thinks his/her affiliates are a huge waste of money to the point where she would even suggest to or discuss with members about how to remove referral cookies etc.

The term brain-dead doesn't seem quite strong enough in this case.

marzzo · 10-07-2004, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith

1. Why HAVE an affiliate program at all if you're just going to bitch about having to pay them?

2. Excuse me bitch, but you wouldn't even HAVE most of your members if not for them finding their way to your site via affilliate links.

3. You don't pay affiliates on rebills? Ha ha.... then those who ARE promoting Abby's site are also clueless morons. Why not send your traffic to a pay-per-signup that pays out TWICE what Abby is paying?? Or join a decent partnership program that does pay on rebills.

Holy shit I cannot believe the bitch cut her own throat like this. I would never promote a site where the owner thinks his/her affiliates are a huge waste of money to the point where she would even suggest to or discuss with members about how to remove referral cookies etc.

The term brain-dead doesn't seem quite strong enough in this case.

Well said CD

andrej_NDC · 10-07-2004, 04:40 PM

damn, she is just too stupid, almost as her members and thats even more sad...
Its the same as when some football player says he dont care about fans and dont know that they pay him...

The Other Steve · 10-07-2004, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
This from one of her site members.... I can understand when a non-webmaster doesn't grasp the fact that the affilliate (referring) webmaster had to work very hard for many hours also, to build his sites and pages and to promote and get the traffic so that dear Abby could have him as a member.

But she should know better. Checked this out, in Abby's post....
Sorry, but this Abby is an utterly clueless bitch of the worst order.

1. Why HAVE an affiliate program at all if you're just going to bitch about having to pay them?

2. Excuse me bitch, but you wouldn't even HAVE most of your members if not for them finding their way to your site via affilliate links.

3. You don't pay affiliates on rebills? Ha ha.... then those who ARE promoting Abby's site are also clueless morons. Why not send your traffic to a pay-per-signup that pays out TWICE what Abby is paying?? Or join a decent partnership program that does pay on rebills.

Holy shit I cannot believe the bitch cut her own throat like this. I would never promote a site where the owner thinks his/her affiliates are a huge waste of money to the point where she would even suggest to or discuss with members about how to remove referral cookies etc.

The term brain-dead doesn't seem quite strong enough in this case.

Nice guy - the guy behind Abbey Winters - one of natures all round anal warts.

I can remember when he had no affiliates and another photograher here in Australia put up some galleries for him on the Hun.

Now his affiliates are all lazy people who only work a few hours and take all his hard earned money

BRISK · 10-07-2004, 04:47 PM

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

seven · 10-07-2004, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quantum-x
Here's a summary
45% Initial - No Rebills!

Not even 45% that's 50-7.5 (1/2 of processing fee for a small site/program) = 42.5% no rebill. If I tgped or bought traffic to promote him/her wouldn't cover my cost.

This is the reason why I like sponsors who were affiliates of other programs first. If you were only some model or noob webmaster with no prior experience opened up a paysite barely covering costs this is the kinda unprofessional attitude you'd show

Steen2 · 10-07-2004, 06:03 PM

That bitch.

10-07-2004, 06:06 PM

I'd like to punch that JohnMunch guy in the teeth. Cookie-clearing cocksucker.

seven · 10-07-2004, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick
I'd like to punch that JohnMunch guy in the teeth. Cookie-clearing cocksucker.

That's why sponsors should use ip matching scripts also

How long is the aw's cookie set to expire btw? With that kinda attitude I wouldn't be surprised if it's set to expire in 5 minutes or something..

sean416 · 10-07-2004, 06:35 PM

http://www.abbywinters.com/affiliates.php

Quote:

No bullshit.

We are unlike most adult websites. We are run differently, our members expect different things, and our content is different to what you may be used to.

All of these things combined means we run our affiliate program differently to what you might be used to. While we're interested in growing our site, we're not going to do the things many affiliates demand. We'd love to have you on board, but our site is doing just fine without you.

Here's what we offer to you as an affiliate:
50% on initial subscription
No rebills
It's that simple. This might be your cue to say "pffft! no fucking way, dude!", and that's fine - our program is not for you.

We convert at about 1:50 to 1:100 for good traffic. Don't bother to use exit consoles to send us traffic. Last time we looked, you'd be lucky to get 1:10,000. As there are so many cowboys about, we don't have many affiliates - under 20 currently. Those guys make a good living from us alone, and while they do have to put in a little more work than some other sites, that work pays off. So if you're looking for a quick buck, you're on the wrong site. There are plenty of suckers out there, but we're not one of them.

We use GMBill.com as our primary billing company.

Thats whats on her webmasters sign up page. who in the blue fuck would read that and sign up???

StuBradley · 10-07-2004, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick
I'd like to punch that JohnMunch guy in the teeth. Cookie-clearing cocksucker.

Im sure that JohnMunch and Abby are one in the same.

KDizzla · 10-07-2004, 07:42 PM

I love their content.

Gynecologist · 10-07-2004, 07:50 PM

With a first name like "Abby" are you really surprised?

SlutFinder · 10-07-2004, 07:57 PM

maybe she should take a look at the bank balance when no webmasters promote her

mailman · 10-07-2004, 08:00 PM

screw her posts thats just stupid.. but

No rebills

WTF?

addrian · 10-07-2004, 08:00 PM

sucks

warlock5 · 10-07-2004, 08:41 PM

If affiliates are so lazy why do they need them?

Kel · 10-07-2004, 08:45 PM

Shit. What a deal! What a program! Where do I sign up?

Hunter_ST · 10-07-2004, 08:48 PM

Talk about biting the hand that feeds. She (he) even admits that the promoting webmasters know where to post to drive the best, and most, traffic to the site.

That's worth something right there! Damn.

It's like that old joke about the computer repair dude who charges $100 for pressing a button -- it's $5 for pressing the button and $95 for knowing which button to press.

That's why I'm looking for affiliates for this site I just built. I need quality traffic, and you guys know where to find it. I could spend hours learning where to promote, but I have a site to maintain. That's why we pay 50% on signups AND rebills via ccbill. It's only fair for a sale I wouldn't have anyway.
<shameless plug - getting off soapbox>

KCat · 10-07-2004, 08:55 PM

That's lovely!

"Around half to a third of all our joins are from affiliates, which means, it's a big chunk of the gross income."

Only half??? She must deserve all the affiliate traffic plus all the money too! Damn those cookies.

Kevin2 · 10-08-2004, 12:05 AM

That is a very stupid attitude AW has.

adultguus · 10-08-2004, 01:01 AM

The thread I started at abbywinters.com:

http://www.abbywinters.com/vbulletin...ead.php?t=2798

And this was my last reply there

----------------
How nice all this sympathy for Abby.

First of all, I was never and will never be an abbywinters.com affiliate. I choose my programs carefully and 50% on initial subscription and no rebills is, I think, the worst I've ever seen in this business.

Secondly, most of you clearly don't understand what it takes to be a GOOD and honest affiliate. Sure there are affiliates trying to make sales whatever it takes, as also there are pay site members trying to screw up the pay site owners with their charge backs and everything (talk to any pay site owner and he'll admit this).

I spend over $3k USD monthly alone on promoting my sponsors, it takes me about 8 hours DAILY (and not weekly as Abby tries to make you believe, there are affiliates spending this weekly and they don't make money), so don't anybody give me this shit about affiliates being people that make easy money! Making money as an affiliate is just as hard as making money as a pay site owner. And don't think I'm a big player. There are lots of people putting in MUCH more effort than I do.

Quote:

I did stumble upon AW thru a TGP/affiliate site. You wouldn't believe what my firewall had to fight off when I navigated that site.

Then you visit the wrong TGPs. Visit The Hun (http://www.thehun.com), the biggest TGP around. He chooses the galleries he lists very carefully and makes sure there are no pop-ups, or any shit in it, OR even in the sponsor pages they promote.

Quote:

I mean would you be happy if you put your whole effort into a site but had to give 50% of each join away?

50% AND NO REBILLS, is the lowest I've ever seen in this industry. There are sponsors paying $40 to their affiliates, when the surfer only takes a tour of a few bucks. Why you ask? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S WORTH TO THEM! Ask any sponsor what is most important about a pay site and most of them will answer 'enough affiliates to promote it'.

Quote:

Now, 10 month later you already wake up and you start a crappy campaign against AW.com. Ten month there was nothing coming from your side (are you blind?) and now, suddenly the bomb explodes and you treat Abby as a ?dirty little shit?, your words.

As I said, I'm not, and have never been an abbywinters.com affiliate. This was just spread around some adult webmaster boards.

Quote:

Within the past ten months you earned money with AW, or not?

That would be a no, and the people who did sign-up for this affiliate program are a couple of morons, because they could have made at least double the money as they did with abbywinters.com

Quote:

Whaadaya know. Both Lifer and Ruus are from Amsterdam. Inconclusive, but interesting to know.

I'm not from Amsterdam, and why would that be an interesting thing to know?

Don't get me wrong here. I understand that for surfers it's hard to understand what affiliates do and it looks like all they do is taking money. But you should see it this way, an affiliate is like the company that makes a TV commercial. Do any of you really think that they are getting their money without doing anything for it? Do any of you think that a brand like Coca Cola or Nike or whatever big name comes up to you would still be that big in another 10 years when they stopped promoting themselfs through those companies?

I can ensure you that affiliates are exactly the same as those commercial companies. The good ones KNOW how to promote a pay site and where to promote it. Affiliates are the ones that make pay sites big, NOT the pay site owner.

I'd be happy to show all of you some more insights of being an affiliate (btw, that's not the only thing I do), but I kind of have the feeling you all will still sympathise with Abby.

So in the meantime, let's talk about Abby. I see all of you are referring to Abby as a she. With me she goes for a female right? Well, Abby might be a clueless motherf*cker and one of the worst people to work with in the adult industry, calling this guy a woman is something I even wouldn't do.

Again, I'd be glad to explain some more details to you all, just let me know.
----------------------------

Kind of like fucking around with those clueless surfers

realed · 10-08-2004, 02:09 AM

BUSTED..... FINALLY

I had some unfortunate dealings with this BITCH , SHEMALE whatever a few months ago and she posted some slanderous shit about me on her boards....

Very unprofessional person. Very rude and obviously cares not about any other webmasters or customers.

How is she even a model anyway?... She is UGLY AS SIN!

I decided not to post here at the time but now that everybody else is beginning to notice that she is corrupt, SUPERB!

Get this ugly dog bitch of the internet.

Ed

Libertine · 10-08-2004, 02:14 AM

That one's definitely going on my blacklist.

Dpope · 10-08-2004, 06:16 AM

Too Bad for Abby Winters...

She hung herself with this one...

But we all know that this shit happens more often...

So, just because Abby was so quick to apologize (not)...

Can you all be sure that this is posted on any other forum where hard working affiliates hang out ("with nothing to do" according to Abby's latest response)

The original screen shots:

http://www.q-tease.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=327#327

Lee · 10-08-2004, 06:49 AM

There is some guy saying he would rather see Abby in a Lambo than the affiliates? If she only realised it she could probably have that Lambo pretty quickly as opposed to it being a pipedream if she worked with affiliates.

quantum-x · 10-08-2004, 06:51 AM

50% w/ no rebills is tantamount to theft, but telling and encouraging surfers to delete cookies etc IS theft.

This is the equivalent to having a salesman, and cutting out his %, but taking his sales.

If a sponsor ever discusses their monetary situation with their affiliates, they're fucking idiots. Surfers don't want to know that they're fucking someone's private fortune.

Treat your affiliates like shit, and you're jsut stupid. Reputation is everything. I hate rude people in this business.

10-07-2004, 12:06 PM	#1
Dpope Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 33	Abby Winters promotes cheating their affiliates Hard to believe... but it's true. Abby started a thread on their website bitching about the costs of affiliates and explaining how they will get more money if the surfer deletes the cookies before they sign up. See for yourself at: http://www.abbywinters.com/vbulletin...ed=1#post20628 Spread it to other boards... These people are shit if they will tell their members and potential members how to cheat the affiliates out of their marketing efforts.

10-07-2004, 01:44 PM	#2
andrey Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,505	No Thread specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster __________________

10-07-2004, 02:08 PM	#6
seven Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: LaLa Land Posts: 2,697	who the fuck really cares? didn't even know about that site til now lol also 50% and no rebill? That's a joke I tell you __________________ Toy Rev Rouge Web Design

10-07-2004, 02:17 PM	#7
GuestHouse Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 229	OK, I wonder how that site will survive now. I bet it lives cos of it's affiliates - which he/she/they are fucking bad. And at the same time him/her/them-self! If you don't want affiliates - get your own traffic, but stop being a jerkass ripping of those that help you make money! __________________

10-07-2004, 02:31 PM	#8
adultguus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 815	I read the screen caps on your site. I simply don't believe this. It's like you stated there. If you hate your affiliates so badly, why have a affiliate program at all! Unbelievable! __________________ Want to have your own review site in 2 minutes? Visit us now! For the surfers: Porn Reviews

10-07-2004, 01:46 PM	#3
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	http://www.q-tease.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=306 __________________

10-07-2004, 01:56 PM	#5
C_U_Next_Tuesday WW4L Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: over the river and through the woods Posts: 10,581	thats some fucked up shit! ..she is busted

10-07-2004, 02:35 PM	#9
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	__________________ The Affiliate Program

10-07-2004, 02:40 PM	#10
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	lol

10-07-2004, 02:44 PM	#11
adultguus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 815	I posted some 'nice' pieces of my mind in the Abby Winters forum. I wonder how long it will be there, before deleted __________________ Want to have your own review site in 2 minutes? Visit us now! For the surfers: Porn Reviews

10-07-2004, 02:46 PM	#12
PrivateIvy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,257	Some people are just clueless when it comes to business Ivy

10-07-2004, 02:58 PM	#14
Series Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 946	Wow... thanks for the heads-up

10-07-2004, 03:34 PM	#15
Fake Nick So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: go troll goo! Posts: 7,708	the actual thread is easyier to read http://www.abbywinters.com/vbulletin...ead.php?t=2182

10-07-2004, 03:40 PM	#16
pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	Did any of you look at the women that she has in the tour?? Yuck. I can not imagine why someone would pay for that. There are tons of amateur sites out there with better looking women. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

10-07-2004, 03:43 PM	#17
emthree Dialer Kingpin Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York Posts: 10,816	what dumb and clueless broad __________________ • Sell Patches & Pills •

10-07-2004, 03:43 PM	#18
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	Last time I heard, the 'she' of Abbey Winters was actually a 'he'. __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

10-07-2004, 03:44 PM	#20
pornstar2pac Omaha Hi/Lo Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 17,380	next she will be talking about placing tiny little classified ads in newspapers to make millions __________________ Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

10-07-2004, 03:58 PM	#22
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	So who does promote his/her site? If so do you do well from it. I will not promote it at all. __________________ The Affiliate Program

10-07-2004, 04:16 PM	#23
Series Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 946	haha... now you're a spammer if you host with webair... what a joke... http://www.abbywinters.com/vbulletin...ead.php?t=2798

10-07-2004, 04:40 PM	#26
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	damn, she is just too stupid, almost as her members and thats even more sad... Its the same as when some football player says he dont care about fans and dont know that they pay him...

10-07-2004, 04:47 PM	#28
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

10-07-2004, 06:03 PM	#30
Steen2 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 7,662	That bitch. __________________ ICQ: 2262.73945

10-07-2004, 06:06 PM	#31
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	I'd like to punch that JohnMunch guy in the teeth. Cookie-clearing cocksucker.

10-07-2004, 07:42 PM	#35
KDizzla Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: South Hampton Posts: 1,795	I love their content. __________________ www.ogrish.com

10-07-2004, 07:50 PM	#36
Gynecologist Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,184	With a first name like "Abby" are you really surprised?

10-07-2004, 07:57 PM	#37
SlutFinder Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: UK Posts: 2,273	maybe she should take a look at the bank balance when no webmasters promote her __________________ Legit mailing and optin databases - Adult,Casino&Pharmacy. ICQ: 272-745-001 - EMail:[email protected] Adult payments allowed! on your site or between webmasters! www.YowCow.com

10-07-2004, 08:00 PM	#38
mailman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,311	screw her posts thats just stupid.. but No rebills WTF?

10-07-2004, 08:00 PM	#39
addrian Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Romania Posts: 32	sucks __________________ CJ2, TGP, CJ Trade - I need trades from 200/day ... 10k/day

10-07-2004, 08:41 PM	#40
warlock5 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Uranus Posts: 2,808	If affiliates are so lazy why do they need them?

10-07-2004, 08:45 PM	#41
Kel Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ashland, OR Posts: 591	Shit. What a deal! What a program! Where do I sign up? __________________ Trust Me... [IMG]http://signups.triplexcash.com/promo/***/banners/triplexcash_120x60_05.gif[/IMG] They wouldn't be in my sig if they didn't convert well!

10-07-2004, 08:48 PM	#42
Hunter_ST Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Getting messy... Posts: 763	Talk about biting the hand that feeds. She (he) even admits that the promoting webmasters know where to post to drive the best, and most, traffic to the site. That's worth something right there! Damn. It's like that old joke about the computer repair dude who charges $100 for pressing a button -- it's $5 for pressing the button and $95 for knowing which button to press. That's why I'm looking for affiliates for this site I just built. I need quality traffic, and you guys know where to find it. I could spend hours learning where to promote, but I have a site to maintain. That's why we pay 50% on signups AND rebills via ccbill. It's only fair for a sale I wouldn't have anyway. <shameless plug - getting off soapbox> __________________ Splosh Cash Wet and Messy Fetish Program I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.

10-07-2004, 08:55 PM	#43
KCat Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: PNW Posts: 2,204	That's lovely! "Around half to a third of all our joins are from affiliates, which means, it's a big chunk of the gross income." Only half??? She must deserve all the affiliate traffic plus all the money too! Damn those cookies. __________________ ~ 300+ FHGs, 100,000 pics to use plus a rockin' Video of the Day download! ~

10-08-2004, 12:05 AM	#44
Kevin2 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,429	That is a very stupid attitude AW has. __________________ Webmasters Trade Traffic!!!

10-08-2004, 02:09 AM	#46
realed Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: worldwide Posts: 834	BUSTED..... FINALLY I had some unfortunate dealings with this BITCH , SHEMALE whatever a few months ago and she posted some slanderous shit about me on her boards.... Very unprofessional person. Very rude and obviously cares not about any other webmasters or customers. How is she even a model anyway?... She is UGLY AS SIN! I decided not to post here at the time but now that everybody else is beginning to notice that she is corrupt, SUPERB! Get this ugly dog bitch of the internet. Ed

10-08-2004, 02:14 AM	#47
Libertine sex dwarf Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17,860	That one's definitely going on my blacklist. __________________ /(bb\|[^b]{2})/