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Old 10-05-2004, 10:25 PM   #1
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Next time Bush tells Kerry "You voted for the war in Iraq", why doesn't Kerry reply:

"Yes, I voted for the war in Iraq, because I trusted you, I trusted your intelligence, I put my faith in you, because it was important to stand behind you, as president in those hard and trying times. But today, we all know you lied. You lied to your fellow americans, you lied to the world, you lied to our country, and you lied to me."

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Old 10-05-2004, 10:26 PM   #2
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Because Kerry has the balls of a field mouse.
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Old 10-05-2004, 10:26 PM   #3
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That would SEAL the election for him...
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Old 10-05-2004, 10:27 PM   #4
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Old 10-05-2004, 10:27 PM   #5
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That is a damn good response. You should email it to him.
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Old 10-05-2004, 10:30 PM   #6
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That is a damn good response. You should email it to him.
I'm always wondering about that.

I mean it would shut G.W. Bush up.

Obviously Kerry and Edwards supported the war because they believed the info...

I will email it to him.
Maybe he will hire me as his speech writter... that is what I am studying to do.
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Old 10-05-2004, 10:32 PM   #7
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How can I reach them by email?

I want to email them and fax them the message.

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Old 10-05-2004, 10:37 PM   #8
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Kerry trusted Bush so much before, he believes in bush capaity to handle the situation and he realized thah he is wrong
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Old 10-05-2004, 10:38 PM   #9
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How can I reach them by email?

I want to email them and fax them the message.

I just went through the same thing trying to send a news story in to one of the networks.
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Old 10-05-2004, 10:39 PM   #10
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"Yes, I voted for the war in Iraq, because I trusted you, I trusted your intelligence, I put my faith in you, because it was important to stand behind you, as president in those hard and trying times. But today, we all know you lied. You lied to your fellow americans, you lied to the world, you lied to our country, and you lied to me."

Because Kerry didn't vote for the war based on his faith for President Bush. He voted for the war, because he read the same intelligence reports that Bush read, and was convinced that Saddam had wmd's just like Bush was convinced.
Kerry and Edwards have both admitted to reading the intelligence reports and that being the factor. They have also said recently that they still would have gone to war, but would have done it differently.

Kerry and Edwards are to blame just as Bush is, but the Kerry sheep, will do anything and say anything to point the finger at someone else. Why can't you guys admit, whether you like Bush or not, that Kerry has made some pretty significant fuck ups?

The Kerry sheep go out of their way to follow their shepard. They take the side and do the bidding of what the popular opinion of the week is. At least the Bush supporters have made up their minds and are willing to stick to their guns.

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Old 10-05-2004, 10:39 PM   #11
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http://www.johnkerry.com/contact/

send it to a bunch of the different offices .. that is a perfect line.

and let us know if you get a response from them!

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Old 10-05-2004, 10:42 PM   #12
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Why can't you guys admit, whether you like Bush or not, that Kerry has made some pretty significant fuck ups?
Yeah you pussy liberals, Republicans ALWAYS ADMIT THEIR FAULTS / MISTAKES!

Only pussy liberals will never learn from / admit to their mistakes.

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Old 10-05-2004, 10:42 PM   #13
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because outright saying he lied would really hurt him in the polls.
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Old 10-05-2004, 10:43 PM   #14
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Because Kerry didn't vote for the war based on his faith for President Bush. He voted for the war, because he read the same intelligence reports that Bush read, and was convinced that Saddam had wmd's just like Bush was convinced.
Kerry and Edwords have both admmitted to reading the intelligence reports and that being the factor. They have also said recently that they still would have gone to war, but would have done it differently.

Kerry and Edwards are to blame just as Bush is, but the Kerry sheep, will do anything and say anything to point the finger at someone else. Why can't you guys admit, whether you like Bush or not, that Kerry has made some pretty significant fuck ups?

The kerry sheep go out of their way to follow their shepard. They take the side and do the bidding of what the popular opinion of the week is. At least the Bush supporters have made up their minds and are willing to stick to their guns.
True, Kerry read the information BUSH handed him. He read the information the people UNDER Bush collected. He believed the information Powell delivered, the CIA delivered. He believed the Bush people.
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Old 10-05-2004, 10:45 PM   #15
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Yeah you pussy liberals, Republicans ALWAYS ADMIT THEIR FAULTS / MISTAKES!

Only pussy liberals will never learn from / admit to their mistakes.

You sure are an intelligent fuck, aren't you?

Someone doesn't agree with your opinion or politcal views, so they are pussies?

Your momma must be proud of you.
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Old 10-05-2004, 10:51 PM   #16
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"Yes, I voted for the war in Iraq, because I trusted you, I trusted your intelligence, I put my faith in you, because it was important to stand behind you, as president in those hard and trying times. But today, we all know you lied. You lied to your fellow americans, you lied to the world, you lied to our country, and you lied to me."



fucking good one mate
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Old 10-05-2004, 10:52 PM   #17
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True, Kerry read the information BUSH handed him. He read the information the people UNDER Bush collected. He believed the information Powell delivered, the CIA delivered. He believed the Bush people.
So Powell went out and personally collected this intelligence? Did Bush also go out and gather this intelligence on his own?
Did the U.lS. provide all the intelligence information?

With this mentallity, are you saying that everytime you sit down and talk to someone that their story is bullshit and lies? Have you never believed anybody in your life?

So the fuck what? We went to war, big fucking deal. Quit whining like the little bitch you are and get over it. Hell if we had never gone to war and saddam did launch an attack on the U.S. you would fucking bitch about Bush not being prepared. Just like after 9-11, you fucking sheep bitched and bitched about our government not being prepared for something like this, and you wanted to know why we had not already taken care off the problem before hand.
Bitch about this, bitch about that. You whiney bitches are never happy.


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Old 10-06-2004, 08:58 AM   #18
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You sure are an intelligent fuck, aren't you?

Someone doesn't agree with your opinion or politcal views, so they are pussies?

Your momma must be proud of you.
Jesus H, are you retarded? Do I need to put big **SARCASM AHEAD** tags around a post like that?

I thought it was obvious ...



The point of that post was to hilight the fact that Republicans (Espcially the Bush admin) have a BIG problem admitting their mistakes ... while the 'flip-flopping' John Kerry is really doing just that, learning from mistakes and letting his opinions grow as the information changes.

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Old 10-06-2004, 09:38 AM   #19
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"Yes, I voted for the war in Iraq, because I trusted you, I trusted your intelligence, I put my faith in you, because it was important to stand behind you, as president in those hard and trying times. But today, we all know you lied. You lied to your fellow americans, you lied to the world, you lied to our country, and you lied to me."

Several things come to mind actually because I have been wondering the same thing.

1. He is holding back for the next two debates. A knock out punch is far more effective if you hold it until the last second rather than giving it time to fizzle out before Nov. 2.

2. I honestly think at some points in the debate Bush was daring him to say something to that effect, which leads me to believe Karl Rove has something up his sleeve. Kerry might be just smart enough to NOT walk into that trap.

3. Kerry might simply believe the best strategy is to feed Americans just enough info so they can draw that conclusion for themselves. It would be, after all, very disrespectful to call the President a liar on national television. Republicans can't wait to jump on the, "How can he be President when he does not even respect the office of the President.", bandwagon.

There are still a great deal of voters in this country who are political purist and believe the Office of the President is much bigger than the President himself, and being publicly disrespectful to that office will lose their votes.



I believe a better attack line would be not to call the President a liar, but "Where does the buck stop?"

"Mr. President, I voted to give you the authority to go to war based on what we now know was false intelligence. At the time I believed it, the rest of the Senate, the Congress, U.N., and the American people also believed it and stood behind you. Regardless of who lied to who, and how you came about the intelligence that you reported to us all, Mr. President I say to you that You are the Commander and Chief, as Teddy Roosevelt said, "The buck stops here!", well Mr. President, our Commander and Chief, I have to ask you, WHERE DOES THE BUCK STOP! Who is to blame, who is responsible for the misleading of America and the world into a situation that has cost thousands of innocent lives, billions of dollars, turned the world upside down, and has lost America's credibility with the world.

Mr. President, if you do not have an answer, WE MUST HAVE A NEW PRESIDENT! We must have a Commander and Chief who accepts the responsibility of being the President, the Head of State, and a President who will take the responsibility of where the buck stops. And too the American people I say to you, I AM THAT MAN, YOU obviously ARE NOT!"
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Old 10-06-2004, 09:47 AM   #20
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Kerry didnt vote to go to war. The vote was to give the President the authority to use force, as a final resort, and to give him that bargaining position when he went to the UN. The authorization hinged on the President's promise to use ALL other options and use force as the LAST and unavoidable option.

Kerry has stated this many times, and has also reminded everyone that the President did NOT keep his word.
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Old 10-06-2004, 09:48 AM   #21
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That's way much too direct!
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Kerry didnt vote to go to war. The vote was to give the President the authority to use force, as a final resort, and to give him that bargaining position when he went to the UN. The authorization hinged on the President's promise to use ALL other options and use force as the LAST and unavoidable option.

Kerry has stated this many times, and has also reminded everyone that the President did NOT keep his word.
I think the issue a lot of people have is the fact that Kerry did not call Bush a liar to his face. Because Bush parrots, "You and I both saw the same intelligence."

I realize he did in many different ways, but some people have to be hit over the head for anything to register with them.
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Old 10-06-2004, 10:09 AM   #23
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Because Kerry didn't vote for the war based on his faith for President Bush. He voted for the war, because he read the same intelligence reports that Bush read, and was convinced that Saddam had wmd's just like Bush was convinced.
Kerry and Edwards have both admitted to reading the intelligence reports and that being the factor. They have also said recently that they still would have gone to war, but would have done it differently.

Kerry and Edwards are to blame just as Bush is, but the Kerry sheep, will do anything and say anything to point the finger at someone else. Why can't you guys admit, whether you like Bush or not, that Kerry has made some pretty significant fuck ups?

The Kerry sheep go out of their way to follow their shepard. They take the side and do the bidding of what the popular opinion of the week is. At least the Bush supporters have made up their minds and are willing to stick to their guns.

Kerry Sheep???


What about the Bush Sheep.
Like you.

If you just got into this industry, you need to re thing supporting Bush in any way.

I know, I know, You have been in this industry for many years and make a ton of mainy blah, blah, blah.


Just listen to some of the things going on here before you vote for that asshole.

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Old 10-06-2004, 10:12 AM   #24
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"Yes, I voted for the war in Iraq, because I trusted you, I trusted your intelligence, I put my faith in you, because it was important to stand behind you, as president in those hard and trying times. But today, we all know you lied. You lied to your fellow americans, you lied to the world, you lied to our country, and you lied to me."

Michael Moore said that and it would certainly seal the election if kerry would say it on the last debate.
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So Powell went out and personally collected this intelligence? Did Bush also go out and gather this intelligence on his own?
Did the U.lS. provide all the intelligence information?

With this mentallity, are you saying that everytime you sit down and talk to someone that their story is bullshit and lies? Have you never believed anybody in your life?

So the fuck what? We went to war, big fucking deal. Quit whining like the little bitch you are and get over it. Hell if we had never gone to war and saddam did launch an attack on the U.S. you would fucking bitch about Bush not being prepared. Just like after 9-11, you fucking sheep bitched and bitched about our government not being prepared for something like this, and you wanted to know why we had not already taken care off the problem before hand.
Bitch about this, bitch about that. You whiney bitches are never happy.

Fuck your stupid....

PS: Dick Cheney was going daily to meeting at the CIA ( the admin created a new agency : DIA ) to guide them in their research ( read: make sure they include only what serves the admin ).

Now, you can go back in your hamack hanged between two " mobile" homes in your trailer park.
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