Message From Groove Re Banning - GoFuckYourself.com

Webby · 09-29-2004, 06:32 PM

Groove hit me up on ICQ and asked me to make
the following post on his behalf:

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Yes, I've been banned from GFY.

MasterBlogger will no-doubt be reveling in the
fact that I'm banned while he's still welcome.

I sent the e-mail below to Lensman 1.5 days ago.

I will say nothing else about this matter until
Lensman (hopefully) replies to my e-mail.

But I suspect I'm finished on GFY for good.

Groove's e-mail to Lensman:

Quote:

Hi Lensman

You have apparently banned me because:

>> I haven't seen any child porn on
>> any his stuff. I didn't see any
>> in smokey's email.
>>
>> And no one else has been able to
>> forward me any proof on this guy.
>>
>> And Groove basically called me a
>> pedo in the thread title, so I
>> guess it backfired on him.

But there seems to have been a misunderstanding.

I'd appreciate a chance to explain...

My intention in starting that thread was to alert you that Sexeducation was citing Adult.com as his supporter in a thread where Sexeducation was being accused of being a pedophile. I'd assumed that you would not want your company's name being used in that context and that you would want to know about it. If I assumed wrong I'm sorry, but this was my motive for posting.
That and trying to get the troll into trouble ;)

But you're right, it backfired bigtime!

Lensman, I did *NOT* intend to imply that you're a pedophile! Why would I do that? There is no reason whatsoever for me to suggest that you are a pedophile! Any ambiguity was a result of poor grammar NOT ill intent.
Basically there should have been a comma, a colon, or something after your name. I immediately tried to clarify this issue in the thread when I was informed of the ambiguity. Please don't ban me for poor grammar! ;)

With the benefit of hindsight I also have to concede that it was STUPID of me not to at least use the term "alleged" in the thread's subject. I can understand why you'd be concerned about someone being called a pedophile without qualification and/or irrefutable evidence.

But if calling Sexeducation a "pedophile" is a banning offense there are a LARGE number of regular GFY posters who should also be banned. It seems somewhat harsh and unfair for you to single me out for banning without so much as a warning, when so many others have repeatedly said exactly the same thing about Sexeducation with impunity.

Also you have banned me without so much as a warning despite having no history as a trouble-maker on GFY. Since January 2003 I've made 3,721 posts and this is the first occasion you've had cause to so much as caution me. If you review my overall posting history you'll see that I've attempted to make a useful contribution to conversations and debates on GFY and have
rarely attacked a person as opposed to an issue.

The only reason I've given Sexeducation such a hard time is that I sincerely believe that he *IS* involved in the sexual exploitation of children. As you requested, I posted examples of why I believe this to be true. However my strongest convictions are supported by the fact that several people who's credibility I trust have said that they've seen hardcore CP posted on Sexeducation.com in the past. You've said that you haven't seen evidence to satisfy you that Sexeducation is a pedophile and I totally respect your right to hold that point of view. But I am 95% convinced that he is.

With hindsight (as stated above) I do believe I should have at least said "alleged pedophile", as anyone deserves that courtesy until they are tried and convicted in a court of law. I believe that he is a pedophile, but I accept that there is room for reasonable doubt.

FYI, pedophilia is not an esoteric concept to me. Several of my loved ones were sexually molested as children. Perhaps it's an issue that I'm too emotional about, but I'm certainly not alone in feeling this way.

In view of my otherwise clean record on GFY and the fact that there was no intent whatsoever to insult either you or Adult.com, I'd like to request that you let me off with a warning. If you want me to ignore Sexeducation in future, just say the word and I'll do that. If you want me to post a clarification and apology, I'm happy to do that also.

Whatever your decision, I'd like to apologize for any offense caused and for not being more prudent in my choice of words and punctuation. I'd also like to reiterate that I did *NOT* intend to insult you or Adult.com in any way! I am sincerely sorry and believe that I have learned a lesson.

Regards

Groove (AKA Adam)

Juicy D. Links · 09-29-2004, 06:38 PM

lensman is busy

Basic_man · 09-29-2004, 06:39 PM

I hope he will get back soon ! Lens, I vote for an unban !

xxxdesign-net · 09-29-2004, 06:48 PM

Email was too long.. you sound like a chick... Ofcourse Lens will unban you.. seems like a simple misunderstanding...

Webby · 09-29-2004, 06:51 PM

Basic_man:

Quote:

I hope he will get back soon ! Lens, I vote for an unban !

Same here - It's all total bollocks over SexEd - a drama queen whore with pedo tendencies..

I wish to fuck someone would ban that deviant little shit - hell knows why he ain't already been banned months ago.

He's been chucked off loads of boards already for pissing everyone off.

Living For Today · 09-29-2004, 06:52 PM

Cant believe an aussie would get banned over that retarded fuck.

detoxed · 09-29-2004, 06:55 PM

no

one

cares

klik · 09-29-2004, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed
no

one

cares

did i make popcorn for nothing?

MickeyG · 09-29-2004, 07:04 PM

what a whiner

Webby · 09-29-2004, 07:09 PM

MickeyG:

Quote:

what a whiner

Who's "whining"?? DUH?

All I can see is some apology to Lensman....

Clearly, you must have exceptional perception to see much more..

alan-l · 09-29-2004, 07:10 PM

I think I'll register gr00ve and sell it to you

CDSmith · 09-29-2004, 07:13 PM

See what poor grammar can get you?

I saw that thread title and immediately saw the mistake which looked as though he was calling Lensman a pedophile, and I thought, "If only people would take a few seconds to check their post before hitting the 'submit' button"

Then I shook my head and moved on. Wasn't about to get mixed up in that mess.

Webby · 09-29-2004, 07:14 PM

alan-l:

Quote:

I think I'll register gr00ve and sell it to you

Go on!! Get me sex-education

Gotta be worth $10K to dump it in the trash and get peace :-)

Fake Nick · 09-29-2004, 07:14 PM

increase post count by one

jimmyf · 09-29-2004, 07:16 PM

that's a long email,

2 long

theking · 09-29-2004, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webby
Groove hit me up on ICQ and asked me to make
the following post on his behalf:

--------------------------------------------

Yes, I've been banned from GFY.

MasterBlogger will no-doubt be reveling in the
fact that I'm banned while he's still welcome.

I sent the e-mail below to Lensman 1.5 days ago.

I will say nothing else about this matter until
Lensman (hopefully) replies to my e-mail.

But I suspect I'm finished on GFY for good.

Groove's e-mail to Lensman:

Fucking pathetic...but then again so are you. Whining like a little child.

Webby · 09-29-2004, 08:15 PM

theKing:

Quote:

Fucking pathetic...but then again so are you. Whining like a little child.

Hi Asshole! :-)

Who is "fucking pathetic"? Groove or me? And.. who is "whining"??

Fuck me man... for you to talk about "whining" is a joke!! You are, with the rare exception the biggest fucking whiner on GFY who has a matching "superiority complex" and amazing ignorance to match!!

Behave more like your age, you lump of pig shit!

BradM · 09-29-2004, 08:19 PM

Sorry Lensman is in the shower soaping up getting ready to go out and score some chicks tonite.
Please leave a message.

Webby · 09-29-2004, 08:19 PM

theKing:

BTW.. Why did Pathfinder get banned???

Webby · 09-29-2004, 08:21 PM

BradM:

Quote:

Sorry Lensman is in the shower soaping up getting ready to go out and score some chicks tonite.

Course!! I'm sure Groove fully appreciates this priority!!

chase · 09-29-2004, 08:22 PM

Maybe it's cuz I'm a chick, but I thought it was a great letter. He's got my support.

Lensman · 09-29-2004, 08:23 PM

Of course he will be unbanned, but this should be a warning. Do not mention me or my company anywhere in a post about this sort of shit.

theking · 09-29-2004, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webby
theKing:

Hi Asshole! :-)

Who is "fucking pathetic"? Groove or me? And.. who is "whining"??

Both of you which was clearly stated. The second time tonight that you have shown a lack of reading comprehension.

Quote:

Fuck me man... for you to talk about "whining" is a joke!! You are, with the rare exception the biggest fucking whiner on GFY who has a matching "superiority complex" and amazing ignorance to match!!

Behave more like your age, you lump of pig shit!

I do not whine...and I have told you before that you are not now and have never been in my chain of Command...thus I do not take orders from you...and never will...thus I will behave in whatever fashion I choose to...wee little Webby from the fantasy Webbyland.

Webby · 09-29-2004, 08:26 PM

theKing:

Quote:

I do not whine...and I have told you before that you are not now and have never been in my chain of Command..

Dismissed!!

theking · 09-29-2004, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webby
theKing:

BTW.. Why did Pathfinder get banned???

PF did not get banned...he passed away.

Webby · 09-29-2004, 08:30 PM

theKing:

Quote:

PF did not get banned...he passed away.

Multiple Personality Disorder is a bad thing.

Dismissed!! Go see the shrink!

Spunky · 09-29-2004, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Of course he will be unbanned, but this should be a warning. Do not mention me or my company anywhere in a post about this sort of shit.

Maybe give him a few weeks to stew in his own juice

theking · 09-29-2004, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webby
theKing:

Multiple Personality Disorder is a bad thing.

Dismissed!! Go see the shrink!

You really are a slow fucking learner...you are not and have never been in my chain of Command...thus I do not take orders from inferiors.

Groove · 09-29-2004, 09:57 PM

Thanks for unbanning me Lensman

And thank you Webby and others who offered support.

As for those of you calling me a "whiner ". I fucked-up, I offered
an explanation, I apologized and I asked to be unbanned.

If that makes me a whiner, so be it.

Groove · 09-29-2004, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
You really are a slow fucking learner...you are not and have never been in my chain of Command...thus I do not take orders from inferiors.

LOL, you were in the army for more than a decade and never
made it past the rank of sergeant. Who's the slow learner?

theking · 09-29-2004, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Groove
LOL, you were in the army for more than a decade and never
made it past the rank of sergeant. Who's the slow learner?

You are wrong. A Sergeant is an E-5...I was a Sergeant First Class...E-7 which is a senior NCO. In addition the highest one can go as a Non Commissioned Officer is E-9. I was on my career track...if not ahead of it as far as rank is concerned. To be a Commissioned Officer (takes an act of Congress) one must have a Bachelor Degree and I went into the Army with an Associate Degree and did not attend University until my military career was ended in '92. So who is the dumb ass that does not know what the fuck he is talking about?

Dead13 · 09-29-2004, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
Fucking pathetic...but then again so are you. Whining like a little child.

What's even more pathetic is you pretending to be some great former soldier.

Ya and now your greatness comes to grace us all here at GFY with the rest of the retired sergeant's from the military.

Link?

Hey even if its true, what a LOSER you turned out to be, a retired Sergeant who now spends 16 hours a day on GoFuckYourself.com!

DISMISSED!!!

Joe Citizen · 09-29-2004, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
You are wrong. A Sergeant is an E-5...I was a Sergeant First Class...E-7 which is a senior NCO. In addition the highest one can go as a Non Commissioned Officer is E-9. I was on my career track...if not ahead of it as far as rank is concerned. To be a Commissioned Officer (takes an act of Congress) one must have a Bachelor Degree and I went into the Army with an Associate Degree and did not attend University until my military career was ended in '92. So who is the dumb ass that does not know what the fuck he is talking about?

You'll always be Sergeant Speedbump to me!

theking · 09-29-2004, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dead13
What's even more pathetic is you pretending to be some great former soldier.

Ya and now your greatness comes to grace us all here at GFY with the rest of the retired sergeant's from the military.

Link?

Hey even if its true, what a LOSER you turned out to be, a retired Sergeant who now spends 16 hours a day on GoFuckYourself.com!

DISMISSED!!!

Wrong on all counts...pretty much SOP for the brain dead13's of the world.

I do not pretend...children do.

I am not a retired Sgt...I was Medically Discharged against my will.

I do not spend 16 hours per day on GFY.

Theo · 09-29-2004, 10:33 PM

if you want to communicate with Lensman keep the 3 lines limit

Dead13 · 09-29-2004, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
Wrong on all counts...pretty much SOP for the brain dead13's of the world.

I do not pretend...children do.

I am not a retired Sgt...I was Medically Discharged against my will.

I do not spend 16 hours per day on GFY.

LINK?

Groove · 09-29-2004, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Of course he will be unbanned, but this should be a warning. Do not mention me or my company anywhere in a post about this sort of shit.

Ironically the post which got me banned was an attempt to alert you that Sexeducation was repeatedly citing you and Adult.com as his supporter in a thread about this sort of shit.

Nader · 09-29-2004, 11:55 PM

I hope you come back..If you know what I mean

theking · 09-29-2004, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Groove
Ironically the post which got me banned was an attempt to alert you that Sexeducation was repeatedly citing you and Adult.com as his supporter in a thread about this sort of shit.

Ironically you are just a dumb fuck that speaks without knowing what the fuck you are talking about...as I have proven.

Groove · 09-30-2004, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
Ironically you are just a dumb fuck that speaks without knowing what the fuck you are talking about...as I have proven.

Dude, I have already acknowledged that I fucked up with that post that got me banned. I MADE A MISTAKE! I was merely pointing out the irony of the situation. Get a life!

You do understand the meaning of "irony", don't you?

theking · 09-30-2004, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Groove
Dude, I have already acknowledged that I fucked up with that post that got me banned. I MADE A MISTAKE! I was merely pointing out the irony of the situation. Get a life!

You do understand the meaning of "irony", don't you?

"Dude"...how fucking old are you anyhow...a fucking teeny bopper.

This is what I am referring to.

quote:
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Originally posted by Groove
LOL, you were in the army for more than a decade and never
made it past the rank of sergeant. Who's the slow learner?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

You are wrong. A Sergeant is an E-5...I was a Sergeant First Class...E-7 which is a senior NCO. In addition the highest one can go as a Non Commissioned Officer is E-9. I was on my career track...if not ahead of it as far as rank is concerned. To be a Commissioned Officer (takes an act of Congress) one must have a Bachelor Degree and I went into the Army with an Associate Degree and did not attend University until my military career was ended in '92. So who is the dumb ass that does not know what the fuck he is talking about?

baddog · 09-30-2004, 12:28 AM

all that popcorn

so little drama

Groove · 09-30-2004, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
"Dude"...how fucking old are you anyhow...a fucking teeny bopper.

This is what I am referring to.

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Groove
LOL, you were in the army for more than a decade and never
made it past the rank of sergeant. Who's the slow learner?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

You are wrong. A Sergeant is an E-5...I was a Sergeant First Class...E-7 which is a senior NCO. In addition the highest one can go as a Non Commissioned Officer is E-9. I was on my career track...if not ahead of it as far as rank is concerned. To be a Commissioned Officer (takes an act of Congress) one must have a Bachelor Degree and I went into the Army with an Associate Degree and did not attend University until my military career was ended in '92. So who is the dumb ass that does not know what the fuck he is talking about?

So you were a Sergeant First Class, so fucking what? The fact remains that you spent more than a decade in the army and were unable to rise to even the lowest rank of commissioned officer. The fact that you were too stupid or too lazy to complete a Bachelor Degree merely reinforces the picture.

You've made it clear that you saw the army as a longterm career and did not leave voluntarily. Were you intending to remain a Sergeant First Class for another decade or two?

But then your precious army booted you out.

And now you're reduced to playing soldier on GFY

PenisFace · 09-30-2004, 12:36 AM

The real issue here, is why was groove banned, when someone who isnt even a webmaster (theking) is allowed to continue to do nothing more than instigate shit?

theking · 09-30-2004, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Groove
So you were a Sergeant First Class, so fucking what? The fact remains that you spent more than a decade in the army and were unable to rise to even the lowest rank of commissioned officer. The fact that you were too stupid or too lazy to complete a Bachelor Degree merely reinforces the picture.

You've made it clear that you saw the army as a longterm career and did not leave voluntarily. Were you intending to remain a Sergeant First Class for another decade or two?

But then your precious army booted you out.

And now you're reduced to playing soldier on GFY

You cannot rise to the rank of a Commisioned Officer without a Bachelor Degree...in addition there is an age limit to attend OCS. I was 22 when I entered the Army and did not have a Bachelor Degree...and because of frequent deployments...I could not have earned one before being to old to enter OCS. I would not have remained an E-7 and would have reached E-9 and had the possibility of attaining the rank of Warrant Officer...which now has five grades W1-W5. So in answer to the question...no.

Really...once again...you should not talk about things that you do not know anything about. Now go fuck yourself...kid...you are dismissed.

theking · 09-30-2004, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PenisFace
The real issue here, is why was groove banned, when someone who isnt even a webmaster (theking) is allowed to continue to do nothing more than instigate shit?

Wrong penis breath...I am a webmaster and I am satisfied that I have been a webmaster more years than you...now

Groove · 09-30-2004, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
You cannot rise to the rank of a Commisioned Officer without a Bachelor Degree...in addition there is an age limit to attend OCS. I was 22 when I entered the Army and did not have a Bachelor Degree...and because of frequent deployments...I could not have earned one before being to old to enter OCS. I would not have remained an E-7 and would have reached E-9 and had the possibility of attaining the rank of Warrant Officer...which now has five grades W1-W5. So in answer to the question...no.

Really...once again...you should not talk about things that you do not know anything about. Now go fuck yourself...kid...you are dismissed.

Pitty you were too dumb or too lazy to do a Bachelor's Degree before enlisting. Surely that would have been the intelligent thing to do? Or was reaching the rank of Warrant Officer the full extent of your career ambitions?

Dead13 · 09-30-2004, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
You cannot rise to the rank of a Commisioned Officer without a Bachelor Degree...in addition there is an age limit to attend OCS. I was 22 when I entered the Army and did not have a Bachelor Degree...and because of frequent deployments...I could not have earned one before being to old to enter OCS. I would not have remained an E-7 and would have reached E-9 and had the possibility of attaining the rank of Warrant Officer...which now has five grades W1-W5. So in answer to the question...no.

Really...once again...you should not talk about things that you do not know anything about. Now go fuck yourself...kid...you are dismissed.

Funny, my best friend's husband Reuben just got back from Iraq a few months ago and the army is paying for him to go to school to get his Bachelor's so he can be promoted. He did not do anything special, just went and did what he was told, never even saw any real combat.

They never did that for yoou with all the great things you supposedly did?

theking · 09-30-2004, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Groove
Pitty you were too dumb or too lazy to do a Bachelor's Degree before enlisting. Surely that would have been the intelligent thing to do? Or was reaching the rank of Warrant Officer the full extent of your career ambitions?

My mentor...PF...encourged me to go beyond the AA I had but I was bored with school and did not mind being Enlisted...and do not regret enlisting without a BA. A professional soldier is a professional soldier no matter what rank he holds.

Dead13 · 09-30-2004, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
My mentor...PF...encourged me to go beyond the AA I had but I was bored with school and did not mind being Enlisted...and do not regret enlisting without a BA. A professional soldier is a professional soldier no matter what rank he holds.

Nice argument. But that only applies to REAL soldiers. Not old drunks who wish they were soldiers.

If I am wrong, LINK!

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09-29-2004, 06:38 PM	#2
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09-29-2004, 06:48 PM	#4
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	Email was too long.. you sound like a chick... Ofcourse Lens will unban you.. seems like a simple misunderstanding...

09-29-2004, 06:52 PM	#6
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09-29-2004, 06:55 PM	#7
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09-29-2004, 07:04 PM	#9
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09-29-2004, 08:19 PM	#19
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09-29-2004, 08:23 PM	#22
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Of course he will be unbanned, but this should be a warning. Do not mention me or my company anywhere in a post about this sort of shit.

09-29-2004, 09:57 PM	#29
Groove Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,852	Thanks for unbanning me Lensman And thank you Webby and others who offered support. As for those of you calling me a "whiner ". I fucked-up, I offered an explanation, I apologized and I asked to be unbanned. If that makes me a whiner, so be it.

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