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Old 09-16-2004, 11:53 PM   #51
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Starting next week, all airline passengers must take off their jackets before passing through metal detectors and will be subjected to pat-down searches and checks for explosives.

I can't believe they are just now initiating this
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Old 09-16-2004, 11:55 PM   #52
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Big deal...they pat you down when you go to a club nowadays
true. . . and I was wearing a suit
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Old 09-16-2004, 11:58 PM   #53
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Whats wrong with that? Security measures already in place seem a lot more extreme. I'm a clean cut white dude and I get my shoes scanned and get patted down pretty often, plus they do explosive swabs on my laptop every time.
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Old 09-16-2004, 11:59 PM   #54
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on my way back from cali this weekend i was checking in for my flight in san fransico and while waiting in the line to go thru the metal detectors, there was a line of budest monks in their robes, shaved heads and man sandles... the security guards were taking an extra special liking to them... come on! they are MONKS
how do you know they are monks? because of how they dress? give me a break
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Old 09-17-2004, 01:21 AM   #55
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Every single one of who who finds this acceptable deserves to have every right you have taken away.

The fact that you are boarding an airplane does NOT make you a suspect in a crime that hasn't happened yet. There is no probable cause, and the Constitution and Bill of Rights describe unreasonable search and seizure.

Actually with having what happened with the three airplanes, the unreasonable search and seizure is thrown out the window. They now have probable cause to believe that ANYONE could attempt to take explosives, firearms, or weapons onto a flight.

And with the current idiot running the show this will not change.
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Old 09-17-2004, 04:19 AM   #56
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This is all bullshit, and you are all sheep for going along with it, you could all enter the gate completely naked, submit to a full body cavity search with the x-rays, and you still wouldn't be safe from the number one problem that hasn't been addressed even before 9/11/2001.

None of the cargo flying below you is EVER checked for explosive material, nor the cargo containers are not shielded from explosions. All it took was a fist sized chunk of C-4 to kill 270 people and cause this much damage.



The airlines before 9/11/2001 balked at the security measures that are in place today, and any additional security, like explosion resistant cargo containers is balked at by the bean counters.

The only people that feel secure with these new measures is that little old lady flying home once a year, Joe Sixpack who is as clueless as a wet mop, and sadly a number of GFY webmasters in this thread.
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Old 09-17-2004, 04:34 AM   #57
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That ain't the worst, they found out the 2 women who blew up those Russian planes had explosives in their vaginas
Lol, I wonder where they really had them...
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Old 09-17-2004, 04:53 AM   #58
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Whats wrong with that? Security measures already in place seem a lot more extreme. I'm a clean cut white dude and I get my shoes scanned and get patted down pretty often, plus they do explosive swabs on my laptop every time.
me too - and quite frankly i wish theyd check more people, and do away with this stupid fucking "did you pack your own bags" shit.

if you think your personal privacy is being invaded - fuck you, dont fly. i have nothing to hide ... search me. they even open up my dildos and look at the batteries, no skin off my sack. You want to get on a plane without being searched, buy one. till then i want everyone searched. i dont trust anyone no further than i can throw a ten ton banana

I also wish the guy looking at the xray monitor didnt look like a 10th grade dropout with a bad crack hangover.

and you Bush bastards - look at what this DIPSHIT wants to do now:

"The Bush administration wants to trim the Federal Aviation Administration's budget for buying new air traffic control equipment at a time when more planes are in the air."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...faa_budget&e=1

we have a bible thumping born again (you have to really fuck up in life to get to this point) evangelical christian as the leader of our country - how does that look to the average muslim kid who is indoctrinated with propoganda just like we are in america. you wonder why they want to fucking kill us? remember when you were a kid during the cold war and thought all russians were bad people? (speaking to a specific age group here.)

Bush, please shut the fuck up and go play with your bibles.

Airport security, i am more than happy to submit to cavity searches. I do not feel i am losing ONE SMIDGEON of any personal privacy
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Old 09-17-2004, 04:59 AM   #59
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None of the cargo flying below you is EVER checked for explosive material ...
ok ill bite - whats your source on this? i would have assumed there would be dogs sniffing shit.

you cant make a plane 100% safe - thats life. I simply dont feel ive lost any personal freedom becuase my shit is searched. doesnt bother me one bit - i have nothing to hide.
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:01 AM   #60
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i am suprised at the lack of security at the airports...i devised a paln to get foreign or dangerous materials onto the plane



after you are past customs, and just waiting to baord...if you had a friend at mcdonalds..he could pass you whatever you want with your bigmac


scary shit cause mcdonalds employees dont make squat
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:15 AM   #61
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This is all bullshit, ... The only people that feel secure with these new measures is that little old lady flying home once a year, Joe Sixpack who is as clueless as a wet mop, and sadly a number of GFY webmasters in this thread.
even so - this serves an important purpose. those little old ladies stop flying, youre going to find your ass on a greyhound bus everywhere you want to go. no thanks, ill take my chances -
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:18 AM   #62
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I don't like it, but it's got 2 be done.
After all it's really not about me, it's about all the other people.

The Gov. be dam if they do and be dam if they don't. it sure does open a lot of doors for abuse I believe. And when there is open doors, the Gov. will abuse, it has happened time and again.
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:25 AM   #63
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Starting next week, all airline passengers must take off their jackets before passing through metal detectors and will be subjected to pat-down searches and checks for explosives.

Nice. Good job
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:34 AM   #64
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Being politically correct in our search methods is very important these days ya know.

Whites generally have not hijacked planes, and a black man NEVER has. Yet security will stop these people and let the true face of terror pass right by.
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:36 AM   #65
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Being politically correct in our search methods is very important these days ya know.

Whites generally have not hijacked planes, and a black man NEVER has. Yet security will stop these people and let the true face of terror pass right by.
not the case here
i stroll on in..once without id..they just let me in..lol

but they do stop alot of peole with israel passports..they must spend a ton on rebooking flights
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:47 AM   #66
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That ain't the worst, they found out the 2 women who blew up those Russian planes had explosives in their vaginas
I can smack you in the face through the computer.

No really.
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:56 AM   #67
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ok ill bite - whats your source on this? i would have assumed there would be dogs sniffing shit.

you cant make a plane 100% safe - thats life. I simply dont feel ive lost any personal freedom becuase my shit is searched. doesnt bother me one bit - i have nothing to hide.
In a previous lifetime I used to do risk assessments (still do here and there) nothing is going to be 100% secure, but there are still measures that can be put in place to minimize the chance of something happening.

Dogs are great, but they also must take breaks like humans, you can usually run a dog for about 2-3 hours, problem being there still aren't enough dogs out there to sniff every package.

Another problem is the sheer amount of cargo that flies from around the U.S. and world, we're talking millions of tons traveling daily, on commerical and cargo aircraft.

It has been reported that TSA computer models estimated that if full physical screening is implemented, only 4% of the daily volume of freight at airports could be processed due to the time that would be required to breakdown shipments, inspect them, and reassemble them for transport.

TSA considers the likelihood of a terrorist bombing of a passenger airplane to be between 35% and 65% based on year-old intelligence reports, and TSA believes that cargo is either likely to become, or already is, the primary aviation target for terrorists in the short term.

Now there is one level of security with cargo, and its called the "Known Shipper Program" The FAA requires all of the freight shipping companies to submit a security plan. They are to certify that their employees have undergone criminal background checks.

You could very well get on that OK list by shipping 100 lbs of live lobsters from Maine to LAX via EWR for three months and one day switch the lobsters out for C-4, who is going to notice until its too late?

Now if I am aware of this, you know damn well Al Qaeda is well aware of it, and is more than likely doing test runs with this knowledge and is waiting for the big day.
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