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polish_aristocrat · 09-11-2004, 02:43 AM

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Originally posted by woj
50

how come you always do the 50 posts?

bluff · 09-11-2004, 02:47 AM

I don't say I would advise such a device to patients, but maybe it works

Tuna · 09-11-2004, 03:07 AM

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Originally posted by bluff
no

PSYCHIATRISTS

and whatever, even if he was a shrink, does that make him an expert on penis issues? Obviously not.

At least SizeGenetics quotes urologists in Milan, however dubious they may be.

you're right. my mistake

woj · 09-11-2004, 03:16 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
how come you always do the 50 posts?

Just for the heck of it... If I wouldn't do it, someone else would, see post below mine :-)

2XY · 09-11-2004, 03:21 AM

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Originally posted by bluff
At fastsize.com it is said that your product is 'doctor approved'. Following the link I get to a statement made by Dr. Henry Miller, NB a clinical psychologist! The text goes along with a pic of a doctor (white coat, stethoscope hanging around neck). This is deceptive advertising!

A psychologist is not a medical doctor. Therefore there is no reason for these guys to wear white coats or use stethoscopes.
Furthermore, the guy has zero right of speaking! What does a psychologist know about penis anatomy and manipulation thereof?

Correct this asap please.

As I am going through my occasional routine of opening the page to view this board, the first thread I see on top is this one...and so I say to myself... "This must be a Penis Extender topic week."

You've got some good points there, Bluff.

But if you know the definition of a "Clinical Psychologist" other than that they can not prescribe medication, you would know that a Clinical Psychologist (depending on their specialized field), is one who works in counseling centers, independent or group practices, hospitals, or clinics. They help mentally and emotionally disturbed clients adjust to life and may help medical and surgical patients deal with illnesses or injuries. Clinical Psychologists often interview patients and give diagnostic tests. They may provide individual, family, or group psychotherapy, and design and implement behavior modification programs. Some clinical psychologists collaborate with physicians and other specialists to develop and implement treatment and intervention programs that patients can understand and comply with.

Depending on their specialized field and their place of work, Clinical Psychologists DO wear the white lab coats and that would not necessarily be deceptive in any way. What is deceptive is when someone who holds a Ph.D., who is a Research Scientist, practices medicine on patients without holding a M.D. NOW THAT WOULD BE DECEPTIVE.

FastSize and the other companies sell extenders which is a device. Medical devices such as this one do not require a prescription, therefore, Psychiatrists endorsements are not required, albeit nice for promoting business, it's not a requirement.

The statement from the Clinical Psychologist on FastSize's site states that this is a matter of his own opinion on the product and that he recommends the product to his clients. He is not prescribing the extenders for his patients to use but is basically RECOMMENDING it to them. Recommending and Prescribing are two different things... you must not confuse that.

I don't see that any of this is of grave concern. The choice to buy the product with or without reading the statement thoroughly and agreeing or disagreeing with the Psychologist's opinion is entirely up to the customers..so let's leave it at that.

bluff · 09-11-2004, 04:24 AM

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Originally posted by 2XY
As I am going through my occasional routine of opening the page to view this board, the first thread I see on top is this one...and so I say to myself... "This must be a Penis Extender topic week."

You've got some good points there, Bluff.

But if you know the definition of a "Clinical Psychologist" other than that they can not prescribe medication, you would know that a Clinical Psychologist (depending on their specialized field), is one who works in counseling centers, independent or group practices, hospitals, or clinics. They help mentally and emotionally disturbed clients adjust to life and may help medical and surgical patients deal with illnesses or injuries. Clinical Psychologists often interview patients and give diagnostic tests. They may provide individual, family, or group psychotherapy, and design and implement behavior modification programs. Some clinical psychologists collaborate with physicians and other specialists to develop and implement treatment and intervention programs that patients can understand and comply with.

Depending on their specialized field and their place of work, Clinical Psychologists DO wear the white lab coats and that would not necessarily be deceptive in any way. What is deceptive is when someone who holds a Ph.D., who is a Research Scientist, practices medicine on patients without holding a M.D. NOW THAT WOULD BE DECEPTIVE.

FastSize and the other companies sell extenders which is a device. Medical devices such as this one do not require a prescription, therefore, Psychiatrists endorsements are not required, albeit nice for promoting business, it's not a requirement.

The statement from the Clinical Psychologist on FastSize's site states that this is a matter of his own opinion on the product and that he recommends the product to his clients. He is not prescribing the extenders for his patients to use but is basically RECOMMENDING it to them. Recommending and Prescribing are two different things... you must not confuse that.

I don't see that any of this is of grave concern. The choice to buy the product with or without reading the statement thoroughly and agreeing or disagreeing with the Psychologist's opinion is entirely up to the customers..so let's leave it at that.

hey, thanks for the great reply.

Yes, I know what clinical psychologists do, I know quite a few of them. Maybe they do indeed wear white coats (and a lab coat is different from the usual white coat doctors wear), but whether or not, there is no reason to wear a stethoscope. I know quite well that the guy has a right of speaking, recommending etc., but it is stated there in a very deceptive way. This thread shows very well how few people can see the difference between MDs and psychologists.

Yes, I only used the word 'lie' to provocate, but you can't deny this page is very misleading. The common meaning of 'a doctor' is the medical doctor, not a doctor in psychology or american history or whatever. I'd like to see how this would hold up in court.

bluff · 09-11-2004, 07:58 AM

masterE · 09-11-2004, 08:56 AM

Let's face it, if John Q. Littledick is looking for a machine to strap on his dick in an effort to become John Q. Stretcheddick, I doubt very seriously if the wording on that site or any other site makes two flips difference. John Q. Littledick has already made his mind up taking the chance of popping his dick off his body, so....

Not really odd that fastize hasn't said anything though, on another board the moderator has asked repeatedly if they would clear up some controversy about the big-penis.com webmaster program that was shut down, and the rep over there does nothing but spam the board, but won't answer his questions.

Indeed · 09-11-2004, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by bluff
At fastsize.com it is said that your product is 'doctor approved'. Following the link I get to a statement made by Dr. Henry Miller, NB a clinical psychologist! The text goes along with a pic of a doctor (white coat, stethoscope hanging around neck). This is deceptive advertising!

A psychologist is not a medical doctor. Therefore there is no reason for these guys to wear white coats or use stethoscopes.
Furthermore, the guy has zero right of speaking! What does a psychologist know about penis anatomy and manipulation thereof?

Correct this asap please.

Old news. Everything on the site is a lie anyway. So whats the point to whine about a pic? The guy might not even be a psychologist either. The whole site is a lie like any other penis enlargement sites.

polish_aristocrat · 09-11-2004, 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by masterE
Let's face it, if John Q. Littledick is looking for a machine to strap on his dick in an effort to become John Q. Stretcheddick, I doubt very seriously if the wording on that site or any other site makes two flips difference. John Q. Littledick has already made his mind up taking the chance of popping his dick off his body, so....

not everyone thinks with his dick and not everyone is so rich that he doesn't care about $200. People don't want to spend $1.85 for a paysite, so they are even less likely to spend $200 ( or is it $300 ) IF THEY ARE NOT CONVINCED IT WORKS.

MikeVega · 09-11-2004, 09:12 AM

Bluff...get a life it's about selling and advertising...do you think I really give a fuck if it works or if the consumer is to dumb to research it.... I never just take the word of one an ad if I buy a product..... Advertising is bending the truth and presenting things in the best light without breaking the law.......

bluff · 09-11-2004, 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by mvega325
Bluff...get a life it's about selling and advertising...do you think I really give a fuck if it works or if the consumer is to dumb to research it.... I never just take the word of one an ad if I buy a product..... Advertising is bending the truth and presenting things in the best light without breaking the law.......

Oh My God can't you read?

How many times have I said that I want the product to be optimal for good conversions?

modF · 09-11-2004, 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by bluff

How many times have I said that I want the product to be optimal for good conversions?

I don't give much of a shit if it says Doctor Approved, and whatever loose connection to a doctor they make. It must convert much better than saying "We couldn't pay a doctor to approve us, but you should try it anyhow".

How do you think it could convert better?

2XY · 09-11-2004, 10:31 AM

I agree with mvega325. It is all about selling and advertising. Isn't that what EVERY company (whether it's e-commerce or mainstream, adult or non-adult sellers) does is embellish in some way to grab the attention of the audience in order to make money? It's not morally correct but who's to say that it's entirely wrong?

However, it would be interesting to see a reply from the FastSize crew but it's nothing to lose sleep over just because 1, 5, or even 10 people have the slightest concern with the wording on the site and who endorses it.

Bottom line is...the product sells and the advertising and endorsements work effectively in pulling customers in to buy it.

In all seriousness, people who complain about something that is so trivial should focus their energy more on strategizing to make money for themselves than to bash other companies and their products.

Given that there is a critic in each of us, we tend to criticize everything and anything that we feel passionate about or maybe it's not even about being passionate...maybe it's just because people have nothing better to do but to tear other websites apart. I say let the customers who shell out the money, be the judge. If you feel strongly opposed to a company's business ethics, then turn a blind eye and don't do business with them.

bluff · 09-11-2004, 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by 2XY
I agree with mvega325. It is all about selling and advertising. Isn't that what EVERY company (whether it's e-commerce or mainstream, adult or non-adult sellers) does is embellish in some way to grab the attention of the audience in order to make money? It's not morally correct but who's to say that it's entirely wrong?

However, it would be interesting to see a reply from the FastSize crew but it's nothing to lose sleep over just because 1, 5, or even 10 people have the slightest concern with the wording on the site and who endorses it.

Bottom line is...the product sells and the advertising and endorsements work effectively in pulling customers in to buy it.

In all seriousness, people who complain about something that is so trivial should focus their energy more on strategizing to make money for themselves than to bash other companies and their products.

Given that there is a critic in each of us, we tend to criticize everything and anything that we feel passionate about or maybe it's not even about being passionate...maybe it's just because people have nothing better to do but to tear other websites apart. I say let the customers who shell out the money, be the judge. If you feel strongly opposed to a company's business ethics, then turn a blind eye and don't do business with them.

I think you don't understand what I mean. Of course, it's misleading, but more importantly, maybe it affects sales.

2XY · 09-11-2004, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by bluff
I think you don't understand what I mean. Of course, it's misleading, but more importantly, maybe it affects sales.

Honestly man, you just like to debate, don't you? It's cool.

I know exactly what you're saying....and my advice is.... if you think their website is misleading, then simply turn a blind eye and don't do business with them. Promote some other company that you feel more comfortable with.

jawanda · 09-11-2004, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK?

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK?

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK?

Strife · 09-11-2004, 11:50 AM

not a single reply from the find folks at Fast Size?

2XY · 09-11-2004, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Strife
not a single reply from the find folks at Fast Size?

Anyone who is smart enough to run an e-commerce business would probably have a good lawyer that has reviewed their materials before it gets posted for the public.... this may be the reason why they feel the need to not waste time replying?

[Brian] · 09-11-2004, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by 2XY
... In all seriousness, people who complain about something that is so trivial should focus their energy more on strategizing to make money for themselves than to bash other companies and their products.

Given that there is a critic in each of us, we tend to criticize everything and anything that we feel passionate about or maybe it's not even about being passionate...maybe it's just because people have nothing better to do but to tear other websites apart. I say let the customers who shell out the money, be the judge. If you feel strongly opposed to a company's business ethics, then turn a blind eye and don't do business with them.

This is primarily why I ignored this thread. I've read a lot of bluff's posts in the pasts, they are mostly negative. If you're contemplating promoting a sponsor I don't think the first thought that pops into your head is to load up GFY and refer to them as blatant liars.

If you want to know more about our medical backing feel free to contact me direct. Seeing as our site has been cloned 3 times in the last month, I'm not so eager as to get into great detail about certain aspects of our company. We're here to promote the affiliate program.

2XY, I know you're just being objective, but you da man! I hope I have an opportunity to return the favor sometime soon.

BradM · 09-11-2004, 03:57 PM

If you can find me a pill site that does not claim to be "medically approved by doctors" etc, I will give you a cookie.

Just find the site, and email me. I will buy you a cookie.

michugo · 09-11-2004, 04:31 PM

I would promote pillsmoney

You don't have to make 27+ slaes to receive $150 per sale.

pillsmoney has more products to promote.

I made 2 sales yesterday 2 days after I promoted it. They added $99.00 to my account right away.

They pay commissions on weekly basis.

BradM · 09-11-2004, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by michugo

Damn, that must suck having no tact.

bangman- · 09-11-2004, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by michugo
I would promote pillsmoney

You don't have to make 27+ slaes to receive $150 per sale.

pillsmoney has more products to promote.

I made 2 sales yesterday 2 days after I promoted it. They added $99.00 to my account right away.

They pay commissions on weekly basis.

don't you spammers take a break every now and then?

sexeducation · 09-11-2004, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by BradM
If you can find me a pill site that does not claim to be "medically approved by doctors" etc, I will give you a cookie.

Just find the site, and email me. I will buy you a cookie.

I'm not here to stir things up again BradM.
It's water under the bridge or lack of to me.

But does the product actually work?

Preacher · 09-11-2004, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by Tuna
Psychologists do prescribe medicine

you are definately wrong here.

DrewKole · 09-11-2004, 05:38 PM

My first question is, Who are you.

My second question is, Who are you.

Surfers die.

bluff · 09-11-2004, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by [Brian]
This is primarily why I ignored this thread. I've read a lot of bluff's posts in the pasts, they are mostly negative. If you're contemplating promoting a sponsor I don't think the first thought that pops into your head is to load up GFY and refer to them as blatant liars.

If you want to know more about our medical backing feel free to contact me direct. Seeing as our site has been cloned 3 times in the last month, I'm not so eager as to get into great detail about certain aspects of our company. We're here to promote the affiliate program.

2XY, I know you're just being objective, but you da man! I hope I have an opportunity to return the favor sometime soon.

negative? Could you please quote some of my other posts? Actually I like your program and that's why it touches me. It's not really hard to perfect it and just get backing by a real doctor, like sizegenetics does (however dubious these persons may sound).

Brian, I'd love to hear more about your medical backing. Not to judge you, but just from a genuine professional interest.

Please email me at bluff.poker [at] gmail [dot] com

(and btw, I already read the articles on your site)

bluff · 09-12-2004, 01:43 AM

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2XY Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 98	I agree with mvega325. It is all about selling and advertising. Isn't that what EVERY company (whether it's e-commerce or mainstream, adult or non-adult sellers) does is embellish in some way to grab the attention of the audience in order to make money? It's not morally correct but who's to say that it's entirely wrong? However, it would be interesting to see a reply from the FastSize crew but it's nothing to lose sleep over just because 1, 5, or even 10 people have the slightest concern with the wording on the site and who endorses it. Bottom line is...the product sells and the advertising and endorsements work effectively in pulling customers in to buy it. In all seriousness, people who complain about something that is so trivial should focus their energy more on strategizing to make money for themselves than to bash other companies and their products. Given that there is a critic in each of us, we tend to criticize everything and anything that we feel passionate about or maybe it's not even about being passionate...maybe it's just because people have nothing better to do but to tear other websites apart. I say let the customers who shell out the money, be the judge. If you feel strongly opposed to a company's business ethics, then turn a blind eye and don't do business with them. Last edited by 2XY; 09-11-2004 at 10:34 AM..

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