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Fabien · 09-10-2004, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by pimplink
Who's the better guitarist?

The more mpgs of Hendrix I d/l off the Net, the more my respect for him grows. Classic!

Both are great.
Different period
Different styles
Both really left their marks !

Anyways, you can't rate any of these guys.
They are all equal. Don't worry, when Van Halen dies, he'll be respected as a god too (it's always the same)

The thing about Hendrix is he was sooooooooooooooo stoned during his live performances hat it sucked a bit

While some nights Van Halen was soooooo drunk

Fabien · 09-10-2004, 08:15 AM

I remember when i heard Eruption back in 79 for the first time

I went WHERE THE FUCK IS HE COMING FROM !!
Alien or something ?

mcfly · 09-10-2004, 08:49 AM

Jimi (duh). Not that Eddie isn't good, just Jimi rules.

tony286 · 09-10-2004, 09:33 AM

My thoughts I always thought Jimi was overrated. Now Eddie Van Halen created a new approach to playing electric guitar. The sad thing about Eddie is he hasnt evolved as a player like say Eric Clapton has. The best guitarist during Jimi's time the guy who did it first was Jeff Beck.

Fabien · 09-10-2004, 09:36 AM

Remember Frank Marino ?

wow man this guy can play !

neverlearn · 09-10-2004, 10:16 AM

Thats a retarded question..Jimi , Hands Down
Give Jimi todays equipment and he would be without a doubt something that would be out of this world ( not that he isnt already)

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-10-2004, 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by neverlearn
Thats a retarded question..Jimi , Hands Down
Give Jimi todays equipment and he would be without a doubt something that would be out of this world ( not that he isnt already)

axelcat · 09-10-2004, 11:37 AM

Jimi Hendrix all the way

mahoney · 09-10-2004, 11:41 AM

Hendrix

Drake · 09-10-2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Praguer
Is a good gutarrist judged by the number and coolness of the tricks he can perform on a guitar? If yes, then absolutely Hendrix or Halen are no doubt the best.

If a good gutarrist means being able to express emotions and touch people in a way no words can do. Then my vote goes for:

Eric Clapton, Carlos Santana, Joe Satriani.

I think you have it the other way around. Jimi didn't do tricks with the guitar. Guitar tricks was a thing of the 80's. I think you're mistaking Jimi's whacked out performances where he lights his guitar on fire with the actual guitar playing.

People have been harsh on Halen in this thread. He may not have been Hendrix but he is a phenonemol player and offers more than just tricks too. Even if the only peice of Halen guitar playing one ever hears is his solo on Michael Jackson's "Beat It" you can hear that the guy was onto something special, that he has a deeper understanding the guitar than most. By birth Halen could not be Hendrix because he came around 20 years after Hendrix. It's like trying to re-invent the wheel, it can't be done, but amazing modifications can be made on the wheel.

Clapton and Hendrix are on the same plain coming from the same era and inspired by blues there playing is stuff that can never be duplicated. I didn't quite understand all this until I picked up a guitar on my own. After I did that, I realized the true genius of these guys.

Priapus · 09-10-2004, 12:16 PM

To get back to the original question of this thread. First off, I think for his time Jimi was a better guitar player, but like all things the art has grown and with each new gen of guitarist the old is built in and new ground is created. No one can ever take away the new ground Eddie covered. Sure finger taps are easy, but he totally revolutionized the technique and introduced it to the mainstream as a real altrenative to simply picking a string with a pick or finger. I also think Eddie was more classically trained, which doesn't mean he's a better musician, but only that Eddie did have a better overall understanding of the instrument from a purely academic standpoint. But fuck academics. We're talking revolutionary music when we talk about Hendrix, music that moves the spirit and evocs emotion. Personally I tend to think an untrained musician who can play from the heart is much better to listen to on an emotional level the anyone who trains and studies music. Training robs you of original creativity imho and i've never enjoyed listening to trained studio musicians jam.

trouserrat · 09-10-2004, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Priapus
Training robs you of original creativity imho

Stupidest comment ever. Training opens up creative doors, it doesn't close them. Technically, Eddie is clearly better than Jimi although some may prefer Jimi for innovation and pure emotion. Not that Eddie doesn't have a hell of a lot of innovation in his own right. Anyone who thinks Kirk Hammett is even in the running here has no idea what they're talking about. He had some good leads in the beginning of Metallica's career, but their strength has always rested on Hetfield's songwriting and riffs. Hammett is sloppy as hell live, uses the pentatonic scale like it's going out of style (especially most recently), and appears to have a wah pedal surgically grafted to his foot. Any argument on his behalf is purely delusional. Although discussions on guitarists on this board bring out the amateur musicians much like discussions on politics bring out the amateur politicians so it doesn't surprise me. Btw, John Petrucci and Steve Vai beat any of the guitarists mentioned anyway.

Burridge · 09-10-2004, 01:13 PM

Wow all you guitar wankers need to shut the fuck up.

1. Jimi playd with a million times more soul and is therefore infinitely better than some fucking lycra suit wanker.

2. Hair metal is a skid mark on the underwear of musical history. All hair metal. From metallica to van halen, to bon jovi. All the same. None of them can write a meaningful song.

3. For innovative, expressive, original guitar playing. Check for Joey Santiago of the Pixies. Angular, Emotive, Demented, ridiculously addictive guitar with heavy surf rock influences.

4. See number 2.

5. For emphasis, see number 4.

trouserrat · 09-10-2004, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by Burridge
Wow all you guitar wankers need to shut the fuck up.

1. Jimi playd with a million times more soul and is therefore infinitely better than some fucking lycra suit wanker.

2. Hair metal is a skid mark on the underwear of musical history. All hair metal. From metallica to van halen, to bon jovi. All the same. None of them can write a meaningful song.

3. For innovative, expressive, original guitar playing. Check for Joey Santiago of the Pixies. Angular, Emotive, Demented, ridiculously addictive guitar with heavy surf rock influences.

4. See number 2.

5. For emphasis, see number 4.

Dude, you're soooo cool.

Please grace us with more of your infinite musical knowledge.

Goatse · 09-10-2004, 05:45 PM

Jimi put on a good show, but his writing skills were unimpressive compared to Page, Townsend, et al. Much of the Hendrix worship comes from the fact that he died in his prime. Needless to say, if he were just another fat, balding, washed-up 60's rock hero, he wouldn't have such an iconic status. Overall, I'd put him slightly behind Eddie, even though he was more entertaining live.

Burridge · 09-10-2004, 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by trouserrat
Dude, you're soooo cool. Please grace us with more of your infinite musical knowledge.

Said the fuckwit who relates to hair metal in the way only a fuckwit can.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-10-2004, 07:53 PM

Finally some voices of reason come through.

neverlearn · 09-10-2004, 08:03 PM

Hey all you wannabes
keep your spinal tap fuckin hour long paragraphs to a minimum here, so us of us are drinking you know
Fuck , you sound like a buncha guitarists or sumtin' ...
...at least this isnt a drummer thread though

baddog · 09-10-2004, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by sickkittens
Tough to say. It's like saying who was the best drummer. You cant compare really.

That's easy, Carl Palmer then Ginger Baker

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-10-2004, 08:18 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
That's easy, Carl Palmer then Ginger Baker

Oh no...

Here we go again!

Phil Colin's is better than both them guys!

Drake · 09-10-2004, 08:25 PM

eheheh

baddog · 09-10-2004, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc
- if you like hendrix - get the dvd making of EL ... fucking cool

psst . . . it even sounds good on vinyl

baddog · 09-10-2004, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
Oh no...

Here we go again!

Phil Colin's is better than both them guys!

put down the pipe and step away from the keyboard

Rebel D · 09-10-2004, 08:46 PM

What About Randy Rhodes?? Cut Down Before his time and such a fantasic Guitarist. But if i chose the 2 it woud need to be Eddie.

baddog · 09-10-2004, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
Oh no...

Here we go again!

Phil Colin's is better than both them guys!

listen to this drum solo

kowntafit · 09-10-2004, 10:03 PM

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2. Hair metal is a skid mark on the underwear of musical history. All hair metal. From metallica to van halen, to bon jovi. All the same. None of them can write a meaningful song.

If you don't think metallica have any meaningful songs then you are a fucking retard and I'd like to hear what you think meaning full is. Perhaps you aren't bright enough to understand the metaphors and language to understand their meaning. Find some site with song explanaions. You will be suprised. Their new album is shit but they have some quality songs. You obviously don't have a clue about music.

Jimi is awesome, I don't really like van halens style that much, or satriani. Steve Via is cool. Slash, Hammett and Jimi are my biggest influences. It's what youy play, it's how it sounds. Although there are more advanced guitarists out there, its the feel they have that I love so much. Every one has their own opinion.

Burridge · 09-11-2004, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by kowntafit
If you don't think metallica have any meaningful songs then you are a fucking retard and I'd like to hear what you think meaning full is. Perhaps you aren't bright enough to understand the metaphors and language to understand their meaning. Find some site with song explanaions. You will be suprised. Their new album is shit but they have some quality songs. You obviously don't have a clue about music.

What pissed me off reading this thread are the people who think eddie van halen was better than jimi henrix. eddie van halen wasn't better than anybody. he was just a hair metal wanker hick who slept with his guitar. That might've made him a good guitarist, but it certainly didn't make him a good musician.

And the same can be said for the entire genre of hair metal. Hair metal amazes me because when compared to any bad period of music before or after it, in all of music history, it will always come out as the worst. Try me on this.

I figured that Metallica has a huge fucking catalogue and I honestly enjoy about 6 of their songs out of that catalogue, and that pretty much qualifies them as being insignificant enough to be lumped in with the rest of the hopelessly tragic genre of hair metal.

Bad rock music is the worst music.

robfantasy · 09-11-2004, 01:35 AM

even though i am a fan of EDM, and have no interest in rock whatsoever, Jimi Hendrix is the shit

pimplink · 09-11-2004, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by Fabien
Both are great.
Different period
Different styles
Both really left their marks !

Anyways, you can't rate any of these guys.
They are all equal. Don't worry, when Van Halen dies, he'll be respected as a god too (it's always the same)

The thing about Hendrix is he was sooooooooooooooo stoned during his live performances hat it sucked a bit

While some nights Van Halen was soooooo drunk

So perhaps the qustion should be ... what is better....
stoned guitar playing vs. drunk guitar playing??

If we go that route, then we'd have to ask....

what sounds better...

guitar playing on POT vs. on Ecstacy vs. on LSD (Hendrix sounded great on it!)

pimplink · 09-11-2004, 06:41 PM

Any examples of NON Hair metal groups?

Nirvana comes to mind....

So does the lesser known but influential punk band The Kids and Flipper.

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Originally posted by Burridge
What pissed me off reading this thread are the people who think eddie van halen was better than jimi henrix. eddie van halen wasn't better than anybody. he was just a hair metal wanker hick who slept with his guitar. That might've made him a good guitarist, but it certainly didn't make him a good musician.

And the same can be said for the entire genre of hair metal. Hair metal amazes me because when compared to any bad period of music before or after it, in all of music history, it will always come out as the worst. Try me on this.

I figured that Metallica has a huge fucking catalogue and I honestly enjoy about 6 of their songs out of that catalogue, and that pretty much qualifies them as being insignificant enough to be lumped in with the rest of the hopelessly tragic genre of hair metal.

Bad rock music is the worst music.

Nanda · 09-11-2004, 06:55 PM

HENDRIX

Mikey_219Inc · 09-11-2004, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by Burridge
2. Hair metal is a skid mark on the underwear of musical history.

Mikey_219Inc · 09-11-2004, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
Oh no...

Here we go again!

Phil Colin's is better than both them guys!

Phil Collin?

Mikey_219Inc · 09-11-2004, 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
psst . . . it even sounds good on vinyl

haaave you eeeever beeen ...

fuck gotta hear it now.

"make love make love make love ..."

pimplink · 09-11-2004, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc

I wonder which musical genre is the stray bit of corn left rotting on the oozing feces of musical history.....

Kenny Loggins?

Trio (of DA DA DA fame)

Mikey_219Inc · 09-11-2004, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by pimplink
the stray bit of corn left rotting on the oozing feces of musical history...

god i love a saturday night zanax bar

Mikey_219Inc · 09-11-2004, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by Goatse
Jimi put on a good show, but his writing skills were unimpressive compared to Page, Townsend, et al.

Mikey_219Inc · 09-11-2004, 07:19 PM

ok im through babbling - off to the nudie bar!

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Priapus Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 51	To get back to the original question of this thread. First off, I think for his time Jimi was a better guitar player, but like all things the art has grown and with each new gen of guitarist the old is built in and new ground is created. No one can ever take away the new ground Eddie covered. Sure finger taps are easy, but he totally revolutionized the technique and introduced it to the mainstream as a real altrenative to simply picking a string with a pick or finger. I also think Eddie was more classically trained, which doesn't mean he's a better musician, but only that Eddie did have a better overall understanding of the instrument from a purely academic standpoint. But fuck academics. We're talking revolutionary music when we talk about Hendrix, music that moves the spirit and evocs emotion. Personally I tend to think an untrained musician who can play from the heart is much better to listen to on an emotional level the anyone who trains and studies music. Training robs you of original creativity imho and i've never enjoyed listening to trained studio musicians jam. Last edited by Priapus; 09-10-2004 at 12:19 PM..

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Burridge Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York City Posts: 1,186	Wow all you guitar wankers need to shut the fuck up. 1. Jimi playd with a million times more soul and is therefore infinitely better than some fucking lycra suit wanker. 2. Hair metal is a skid mark on the underwear of musical history. All hair metal. From metallica to van halen, to bon jovi. All the same. None of them can write a meaningful song. 3. For innovative, expressive, original guitar playing. Check for Joey Santiago of the Pixies. Angular, Emotive, Demented, ridiculously addictive guitar with heavy surf rock influences. 4. See number 2. 5. For emphasis, see number 4.

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Goatse Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,086	Jimi put on a good show, but his writing skills were unimpressive compared to Page, Townsend, et al. Much of the Hendrix worship comes from the fact that he died in his prime. Needless to say, if he were just another fat, balding, washed-up 60's rock hero, he wouldn't have such an iconic status. Overall, I'd put him slightly behind Eddie, even though he was more entertaining live.

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