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Old 07-01-2001, 12:52 PM   #1
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My turn to stir the shit =)

Hey gang !!
I have a question that I would love to hear from anybody and everybody on either side of this debate ....

My question, quite simply is : Why the hell do so many webmasters insist on calling their dialers "MOVIES" and "VIEWING SOFTWARES" ??

We incorporate dialers on most of our sites, and call them dialers too, and make damn good money from them ...

What I need to know, is would I make "that much better" money by tricking my surfers into downloading my dialer ?? Hmmmmm ...

As a part time surfer, as well as a webmaster, I think I can answer that one on my own ....

My theory is quite simple ... if tricking your surfers is the only way you can make ca$h ... you need to build a new tour, and actually have the content inside your site that you claim to in your tour!

Sure ... claiming to have pics of Britney Spears being fucked by her Doberman may very well increase your signups, but I guarantee you that your retention rate will suck ass, not to mention all the chargebacks from "smart" surfers (and yes they do exist), who figure out that they have been duped !!!

If the day ever comes that I have to "trick" people in order to make money ... I will just turn off my PC instead !!

OK ... I've had my rant for the day ... and I must admit, I FEEL MUCH BETTER ALREADY !!!
Hey, my therapist was right ... getting issues off my chest DOES make me feel much better !!!

I think I am going to go walk in the park, feed the ducks, and smell the flowers...

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Old 07-01-2001, 01:29 PM   #2
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Quote:
Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-:

My question, quite simply is : Why the hell do so many webmasters insist on calling their dialers "MOVIES" and "VIEWING SOFTWARES" ??

ummm...... could be because it IS software? That is a wild thing to do, say they are downloading software, when in fact they ARE downloading software........ wow what a thought. LOL

I don't personally agree with calling them movies unless there are indeed movies on the content side of this dialer....... but if there are movies then why not tell them they are movies?

Ok on to the Brittney fucking her dog thing.... that is blatant trickery and I don't agree with that one either........ it's just plain lies and that won't get you too damn far. But if the site has movies and they are downloading software to view these movies then I am failing to see how this is tricking anyone.

If it works best for you to call them dialers, then run with it.... each person and each site is different and have different methods of doing things.

Ok I had my rant too........ and you are quite right, I feel better too. lol

Seriously, I think truth gets you better results as well.... although I never mention how much they cost, I don't say movies unless there are movies........ but then I never mention the costs of paysite memberships either, scares the hell out of them... be honest to a point and then let them find out, it's in all the disclaimers on both paysites and dialers what they charge and how they do it.

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Old 07-01-2001, 01:53 PM   #3
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ummm...... could be because it IS software? That is a wild thing to do, say they are downloading software, when in fact they ARE downloading software........ wow what a thought. LOL

Tam:
I do for the most part agree with you, but I still think of "VuePro" and "Picture Viewer" when somebody tells me I am going to download FREE VIEWING SOFTWARE ...

Yes, some of the scenarios I created may be exaggerated, but it is all in my trying to illustrate my point.

As far as justifying calling a dialer a movie, if it is used to view movies ... I guess we have a bit of a difference in views, but I won't hold that against you ..LOL

(general comment - not pointed towards Tam):What we have to remember as responsible webmasters, is that some surfers are so naive, that they will click on almost anything they are prompted too (I remember my first 3 months on the internet ...LOL).
While many of us bank on this fact, we sometimes need to weigh out our options. These same naive surfers, are the same ones who initiate chargebacks, slander us in chatrooms, and some even will try to "SUE" us for blatent misrepresentation. While this usually becomes nothing more than a nuisance, why even test those waters, for the chance of getting 5 more signups this week ??

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Old 07-01-2001, 02:00 PM   #4
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okay. this is a good place to ask this q:

is this too sneaky?
http://www.girlshost.com/softcore/incognita/arielx.html



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Old 07-01-2001, 03:46 PM   #5
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okay. this is a good place to ask this q:

is this too sneaky?
http://www.girlshost.com/softcore/incognita/arielx.html

lol! that's TOO honest! you didn't even onmouseover it! All the same, I would be more tempted in trying with something like that than some bullshit moviethumb image
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Old 07-01-2001, 04:04 PM   #6
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why thank you kat!
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