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Old 08-24-2004, 06:17 PM   #1
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2257 update - something happened today that will make us happy

i don't have full word yet, and I am waiting on confirmation

but something happened that is going to hold up the new 2257 laws by AT LEAST 60-90 days

maybe they listened

more as this develops
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:22 PM   #2
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Are you telling me I shouldn't have sold all my sites? Fuck!
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:23 PM   #3
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Are you telling me I shouldn't have sold all my sites? Fuck!
possibly....you should have at least waited...LOL
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:24 PM   #4
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:25 PM   #5
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:33 PM   #7
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i don't have full word yet, and I am waiting on confirmation

but something happened that is going to hold up the new 2257 laws by AT LEAST 60-90 days

maybe they listened

more as this develops
Sweet! Thanks for the news -- can't wait to hear more!
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great... I think a lot of people jumped the gun
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Cool. some will be happy about it
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:37 PM   #13
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Sweet! Thanks for the news -- can't wait to hear more!
me either, i am sitting here tapping my foot

the damn dude logged off before giving much detail, but i trust his info...just waiting on him to come back on..i think he is out digging up more details
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:38 PM   #15
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i don't have full word yet, and I am waiting on confirmation

but something happened that is going to hold up the new 2257 laws by AT LEAST 60-90 days

maybe they listened

more as this develops
Yes it did its was called the close of public response

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Oh yeah, that's EXCELLENT news
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:42 PM   #18
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Yes it did its was called the close of public response

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nah, it is more than that....
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:43 PM   #19
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but let me also point out, even though i trust this person that is getting this info...not everything you hear or read is true, so he could be mistaken....cause I can find nothing in the federal register or on any government page about this
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:45 PM   #20
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Hmmm.. I really hope you are right..

Giving false hope is kinda cruel.
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:46 PM   #21
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:48 PM   #22
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No decision was to be made final today, this was simply the last day for public comment. It takes time after the comment deadline ends before anything goes into effect so someone is just raising false hope here and that sucks.
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:49 PM   #23
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Hmmm.. I really hope you are right..

Giving false hope is kinda cruel.
You mean how when a soldier gets really fucked up guts out, missing limbs, see parts of his brain... and then his buddys say
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:51 PM   #24
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we'll see what the news is, if any. itd be nice if we got a few more months to get ready.
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You mean how when a soldier gets really fucked up guts out, missing limbs, see parts of his brain... and then his buddys say
"Its only a fleshwound"
"You lucky SOB your going to make it and your going home!"
"You'll be partying way before we are"
This thread is exactly the same kind of scenario. You wait for the good news, then you tell the world about it.

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Old 08-24-2004, 06:52 PM   #26
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No decision was to be made final today, this was simply the last day for public comment. It takes time after the comment deadline ends before anything goes into effect so someone is just raising false hope here and that sucks.
actually, this is from a pretty reliable source....

and i think it is possible that they have been reading the comments all this time, and have decided before commenting was over to change some things...just hypothetical, but possible right?

besides, i am just posting what I am hearing...everyone can take it how they want...but my nature is to always be weary of what you hear from a non-authentic source....and I tell people that too...see above
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:55 PM   #27
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but let me also point out, even though i trust this person that is getting this info...not everything you hear or read is true, so he could be mistaken....cause I can find nothing in the federal register or on any government page about this
Good CYA because you just know suddenly this is going to be 'fact' on all the boards even if it turns out he was wrong.
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Old 08-24-2004, 06:57 PM   #28
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Good CYA because you just know suddenly this is going to be 'fact' on all the boards even if it turns out he was wrong.
haha, true....sorry about that, just got excited....

well, hell, we got a 50/50 shot

i am going to make some phone calls and dig up some more info, and see if I can find what he is talking about
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Would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath. There's still 30 days to go before it's finalized and I can't see it being held up more than that. The provisions regarding small businesses are the only things that really could become a snag for them from a prosecutorial standpoint, and frankly if they are looking to prosecute prior to the election, they wouldn't be going after small fry in any case.

If Cambria and Douglas call and say there's breathing room, then I'll believe it.
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The title of the thread doesn't seem to make allowance for the possiblity that this might not be true.

Asscraft wrote these changes to make things so tough on pornographers that they would pack it in and close up shop. Do you really think that any public comments that were made would make the DOJ make changes that would actually be better and not worse. If anything the comments they got would have let them know they were hitting us where it hurts and are making the changes even worse, certainly not better.
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Sorry but i've started to move all my shit OFFSHORE !!!

What will be next !
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The title of the thread doesn't seem to make allowance for the possiblity that this might not be true.
Yeah..

"something happened today that will make us happy"

Yeah, that's a pretty bold statement

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and frankly if they are looking to prosecute prior to the election, they wouldn't be going after small fry in any case.

Oh I don't know about that - think of what the impact would be if he got up at the convention and announced that they had just nailed 50 of those evil pornorgraphers who are preying on children?

It won't matter that it might have been 50 gallery builders or free site builders who have only been arrested and not even reached court yet.

He is just as loose with the truth as anyone else and so he would look for all the spin value he could find and you wouldn't get much better than multiple arrests.
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Oh I don't know about that - think of what the impact would be if he got up at the convention and announced that they had just nailed 50 of those evil pornorgraphers who are preying on children?

It won't matter that it might have been 50 gallery builders or free site builders who have only been arrested and not even reached court yet.

He is just as loose with the truth as anyone else and so he would look for all the spin value he could find and you wouldn't get much better than multiple arrests.
Because the impact of hitting some 50k a year guy versus a 50 million dollar a year guy is a tangible difference... and if you look back at the prosecutions in the past, during the Meese Commission days, they didn't mess with people they couldn't gain the most from prosecuting.
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Fear is one of the most powerful marketing tools ever created.

The govt. uses it better than anyone.

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I am more worried about my psycho neighbor finding out what I do and stirring up crap in the neighborhood than worrying about the government.

I am a small fry.
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moving your stuff offshore wont help you, unless you move offshore as well.
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who do i haveto kill to push the 2257 off by a couple more months? and who's paying me? make a fund


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I am more worried about my psycho neighbor finding out what I do and stirring up crap in the neighborhood than worrying about the government.

I am a small fry.
my guess is that they'll go after the small fry's to scare everyone else.
the RIAA went after a 12 y/o girl, and a bunch of college kids for d/l'ing music for petes sake.
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my guess is that they'll go after the small fry's to scare everyone else.
the RIAA went after a 12 y/o girl, and a bunch of college kids for d/l'ing music for petes sake.
How does going after the small frys scare the big guys? There are many of the small guys in this business that get into trouble every day for something or another, obscenity, taxes, you name it... no one hears about it so what good does it do?
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How does going after the small frys scare the big guys? There are many of the small guys in this business that get into trouble every day for something or another, obscenity, taxes, you name it... no one hears about it so what good does it do?
I think it depends on what their focus is. If its to put on a show a big guy is better for press and pr . If their focus is to cut down porn online . They bust 20 small webmasters , take kids away where people have kids living in the house they work out of. At least 1000 sites will close the next day.
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2257 IS NOT GOING AWAY. If you would like to continue to work in the "adult" industry you should be preparing, not fantasizing.


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2257 update - something might have happened today that might make us happy - would be a more accurate title
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Reminds me of a scene in the movie 2010..

You have to leave here in 2 days..

why?

Somethings going to happen..

Whats going to happen?

Something wonderful.
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2257 IS NOT GOING AWAY. If you would like to continue to work in the "adult" industry you should be preparing, not fantasizing.


that is for sure . . . . the proposed revisions may go away, but 2257 is here to stay
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The worst part is that by pushing people out or away, (overseas), the gov. loses the power to control them. They thought it was bad now, wait until there are NO restrictions-
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The worst part is that by pushing people out or away, (overseas), the gov. loses the power to control them. They thought it was bad now, wait until there are NO restrictions-
Very good point
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Read the thread again, and explain your "nice" comment.


I think he meant to say postcount++;
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