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100 2257 updates
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Hey,
just like Eve bit the apple and ruinned this before paradise,Traci Lords brought on 2257.
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There are some seriously ignorant mother fuckers posting to this thread.
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Valid and just?????????????????? Holy crap!!
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I am all for checking the age of talent,its just that i wish there was an easier way of being compliant such as getting an indemnification from the producer that would state that they have the 2257 for everything that they provide to the online secondary producer (considering if we were secondary)but,unfortunetely if they do and lie,we can't be indimnified from something possibly criminal.Indemnification only works for civil matter.
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The "revised" statute is, I believe, a whole different story. It does nothing to fight CP. It creates an undue burden on those who were previously classified as secondary producers, and makes the DOJ's job that much more difficult. The proposed changes make the statute into a joke, IMO. We're on the same side. Chill out.
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If this was really about a crackdown on child porn then as part of the documentation they would require from you is "Date of Production" - which the new 2257 DOES NOT.
So this girl is 19 now. When was it filmed in 2004 or in 2001? One makes her a minor, one does not - but they don't even care about when it was produced. This is a major, huge, massive failing in the new 2257 if you ask me and shows what the real intention of the regs are. |
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so is there a company who is looking into making a businuss out of this yet or not?
i would rather buy my 2257 records from a third party than go get them myself.
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Did you miss the articles late last year and early this year about the DOJ hiring up tons of attorneys for the 2257 task force? Elephants or mice... I think they plan to do a lot of hunting. IIRC, one of the big adult attorneys attendted one of their conventions or something where they were recruiting the attorneys to be on this task force. |
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I am not for the new regulations, but this discussion got me thinking, did anyone ever think about how one COULD do what 2257 asks for in a good manner?
Meaning, the point of 2257, we all agree I'm sure, is to make sure minors do not appear in porn, and if they do, to easily find the people breaking the law. Now, to do this, how else do you expect this to work than to be able to point out the produce of every single picture or video you use? Isn't this really the only way to actually achive this anyway or does anyone have another bright idea? Of course, the new regulation makes us all keep records, which is, in my oppinion, total crap and the gov is just trying to make it easier for them to find illegal pictures since they do nolonger have to ask you and then the produce you tell them, but can just go to you. The other stupid thing is that they expect you to be able to list all other URLs a specific pic is on, thats just stupid. But those things set aside, isn't it a valid thing for the government to expect us to help them find CP? So at least being able to pinpoint the producer of every picture anywhere on our sites needs to be possible, no?
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And to face 5 years in jail if you can't?
5 years for a clerical error?
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yeah and now this is near 'fact' on another board
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It would be interesting to see the feds take on large affiliate programs. Taking down one affiliate program would affect more people than taking down one secondary producer. They could do this now, but the new regs would make this a hell of a lot easier.
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What I can't believe is how brazenly transparent it is that the DOJ just wants to make life difficult for pornographers.
They absolutely don't care about protecting talent, which is the original purpose of the law. Here's a very likely scenario. Crazed serial killer falls in love with a model's picture. So he sets himself up as a webmaster and finds out where he can buy content of her. Content producer gives him her real name and address. Next thing you know her head is cut off and she has a broom shoved two feet up her pussy.
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I think at the end it will all work out with 2257 issues
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You would think with all the taxes that are actually paid somewhat from the adult industry in the US they would have a little leverage with this and actually think this through.
If its gets out of control I will consider moving off shore for sure, whats the negative on that. Processors do not care where they wire the money to, the got their cut out of it already. Look forward to the news. I remember back in 2000 it was rumored that you could not show adult hardcore images on your tours. Some people took them down, I was running BA back then and we were one of them. We lost a lot of sales for that. Is it possible for our industry to get more people in office to fight for us, nobody wants kids to see our sites, but the Internet is a big place and this happens. Kids lose parents every day to smoking yet the goverment has not problem taxing the cigarettes and taking the money. Losing a parent is way worse then a kid seeing our sites I think. What you gonna do, unfortunately this is out of our hands.
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When he challenged a senior DOJ guy with that scenario the reply was that they didn't care. Just talk to any dancer or sex worker and they will tell you the same thing. The very people who are supposed to protect the citizens of the US think of the talent as being worthless so why should they care?
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Now this if you have money coming into this country you can be traced. Then they can also get you on Tax evasion which can make record keeping violations look like a parking ticket. The last big porn crackdown thats how they got alot of porn people on Tax evasion. |
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True if they don't report the money but that's not what I am hinting at.
I'll try to explain(Hope my English is good enough) Here lies the difference: When the money comes in from unchecked country you can put it in your administration as all kinds of things it does not have to be adult related and you will pay the same taxes. Hope that makes sense I could explain it better in Dutch but think that wouldn't help much here ![]()
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I am tempted to NOT keep the date of filming and piss the government off but screw them its not in the law or the regs. If they are making it so anal to keep I might as well be anal about doing it exactly by the book. TAKE THE 2257 survey http://www.2257.com/survey/
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If this thread were on TV it would be called a non-news event.
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I think itS, better get ready anyway and have everything in order
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With each 2257 thread, the bahamas look nicer and nicer.
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