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What makes him look better - to be able to stand up and say "Hey guys I've arrested one evil pornographer" - or to say - "Hey guys I've just arrested 50 evil pornographers"? Forget the dollar amounts - he needs to look good - he applies the spin - 1 pornographer or 50? There's little doubt which option he will choose. And he isn't stupid he knows that if he takes out some of the small guys then the favourite image on galleries and free sites across the net is going to be a red X. That gives him even more kudos in the eyes of those who see porn as evil.
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Nice. Hopefully it was them listening to us but who listens to anyone in the adult industry besides us.
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One of the biggest things I've re-learned lately, is that history does tend to repeat itself. If you look at processing and what has happened with it, it's very near a mirror to the changes that occurred in audiotext just before the internet became popular. If you look at prosecutions in this industry they didn't occur in audiotext, they occurred in the video side of things. I spend a good portion of my days with the video producers now and I'm much more inclined to feel the way I do after hearing and seeing how and who was prosecuted during the last round. I've known small webmasters that have been in trouble for obscenity since I've been in this business. Most of them on a state or local level. Those things might make an AVN headline but no one ever asks "Where is so and so?" or "Whatever happened with Joe Webmaster's case?" EVEN when people publicly hear about the cases or they make AVN. However, when big boys get called out by the FTC or the woman campaigning for Michigan governor, everyone pays attention and gets ready to change if necessary. If you were among the chosen on this one Tony, let's say it was Day 1 (and I'm only using you because you posted, I know you and Mandy are compliant, but I'm hypothesizing as if you weren't) I don't see that a single major site would be looking to make a change based on your being selected. If someone doing 2000 signups a day were among the chosen on Day 1, so to speak, you better believe the entire industry would sit up and take notice. I'm not knocking the little guys, I'm illustrating the point that a federal prosecution is NOT an inexpensive undertaking and that the federal government doesn't as a rule pick on people that can't afford to pay the fines or defend themselves and their companies to the end, especially if there's a chance that you're dealing with a precedent setting case. |
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2257 mainly applies to TGP, right?
What is being done to stop it? |
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My ears were burning.
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Kim I understand your point. However seeing that it is an election year wouldn't it make more sense for them to go after big numbers. For example if they shut down 2000 small sites and then tell the public look we went ahead with this law and shut down 2000 porn sites. The war on porn is on and we are winning it. I think that is what they are looking for. By going after 1 big boy they would definitely get us all to stand up and take notice. But is that what they want? I don?t think they want a fight. I don?t think they want us to stand up and take notice. I think they want sure bets. They need to tell the voters that they?ve been busy working on this. They want sites that won?t fight back. I think they would rather take out 2000 meaningless sites that account for 0.0001% of our industry rather than one nasty fight with one site that represents 1% of the industry.
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If they delay a little, and Kerry gets voted in, and they listen to our comments just a little... maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel and we can chalk this round up to fear mongering and harrasment.
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yup. kimmys right. frying big fish is their game. they love ricoh. thats ultimately what they'll push for. anyways, i shouldn't even be talkin about this. ;)
besides it costs about 2000 times more to shut down 2000 sites. manpower and judicial system costs. ouch. |
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Wouldn't the rich be a better target in a year from now? First get the quick results to parade in front of voters to get re-elected. Then go after the big boys once you are re-elected.
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Barring that there is no official word on what happened, I would say that this smells like an injunction. Unlike a lot of people speculating on this board, I HAVE plopped down $275 / hr, driven to Santa Monica through hellish LA traffic, have sat down with Jeffery Douglas and talked to him about this at length. There are numerous flaws in new 2257 that can be enjoined.
The public comment period has ended. There could be an injunction, the rules could be published in the federal register tomorrow as is, or 60-90 days might just be enough time to get the ?powers that be? out of office and they can stop persecuting us for making a perfectly decent legal living. God bless America. |
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Logically speaking, is it easier to find an elephant and catch him to put on display or is it easier to catch 100 mice and put them on display? Especially if you only have a limited and equal amount of time to do the catching? |
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two ivy league law degrees says it will never fly. a little inside scoop says that, and i feel pretty happy as a person(not speaking for the biz), that everything is gona work out for us. theres just something about this thing called the "constitution" and "small business law" and way more than that. if you don't know what this post really means, i won't even get into it. those who know this wil know it. lets see. this could easily be your next supreme court case right behind COPA.
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Kimmy has the best way with words. No, seriously. This is not a joke. This is not a drill!
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Record keeping is a stupid way to nitpick people into submission, since they can just as easily pull you into court for not having the id of a grandmother as they can a teen. Does that mean they can get a conviction? Hell if I know, since someone's going to have to go to court to set the precedent. Personally, I wouldn't want to be the one spending 7 figures on legal fees to defend myself. However, if the DOJ were to deliberately pick on those unable to defend themselves in order to get a precedent, they'd most likely not do it until after the election since you'd have the ACLU and other organizations jumping in to defend someone without means in a heartbeat. Which would not be the ideal strategy for a Republican administration not yet guaranteed of a win, from a political standpoint. Once again, arguments can go either way. I can only relay what I hear and what I know, and mention that at least two of the folks I deal with have been prosecuted by the federal government before, one successfully and one less so. Neither of them were small frys when it happened and it cost them both a fortune, even for the 1980s... |
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well, not that you need it K, but...... YUP. Again.
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Sorry but i've started to move all my shit OFFSHORE !!!
What will be next ! __________________ Mangez d'la marde stie i think it would be better to wait till we hear more concrete news therefore when shit does hit the fan,the producers of the content will give up the 2257 info to us more easily.At this point,they are sort of reluctant.
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So any news on what the big thing to deter the new regs is?
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I don't know what JaceXXX's friend's info is, but I'm not too surprised. There's no way the proposed changes could go through as is.. there were just too many problems with it. I'm not saying we won't have changes, just not as fast as everyone seems to think. I expected to see several changes to the proposal before it went into law, or at the very least one. |
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I will not use names here because I do not want to imply anything about their money, because I dont kn ow how much they have.
But lets take a step into reality. Why in hell would they go after a big guy, who can put up a 5 or 6 million dollar battle in court.??? Someone who could drag out the whole thing for years?? They WILL NOT! They will grab 20 or 30 or 200 small guys and make the headlines, and sharpen their teeth on them. That way, they can get more donations from the christian groups, to go after a big guy. jjust my ![]()
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They used 9-11 as an excuse to invade Iraq. Based on that, they will do any damn thing that they please. Did you know that they have detained thousands of immigrants that are leagl in the US, and held them with out charges. They can and will do what ever they want.
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I dont bet, but thanks for the offer. If you look back at some of the trials that the government has pulled off, you may find a funny little pattern, of them going after a few little guys before the big guy.
The did not just jump at Capone, they went after a few guys that worked for him first.
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well the only point I was making is that the proposal as it stands now has a lot of flaws, and I expect to see at least one change before it comes into law.. and actually, I agree with you about them going after a bunch of small webmasters first. It makes sense |
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And You have no idea how much I agree with you about the flaws.
In fact I would go as far to say, that it is just fucked! I hope that I did not offend your eyes.
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Well by now the chances of there really being anything to delay the regulation changes must be remote.
Otherwise the guy who started the thread would be back here with the news and we would also be seeing it in other places.
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