Mad Thumbs New Policy - GoFuckYourself.com

Rambozo · 08-22-2004, 03:42 PM

I just got this e-mail from the honcho over at Mad Thumbs-

Due to the new 2257 regulations, as of Tuesday, August 24th I
request that *ALL* thumbnails be *SOFTCORE*. This means that they can not
show any insertion or sexual touching. This means no dildos, fingering,
spreading the pussy, fucking, dicks in a girls mouth, etc. Just nudity etc
is ok. I prefer clean face shots as well.
>
> Please do not push the envelope because if I feel that you are even
getting close to the line I *will* remove your partner account and delete
all of your old galleries. 2257 is a very serious situation and I must put
forth these rules to proect myself, and as a submitter who recieves free
traffic, you are required to follow them. Also, I am not inititally
requiring a 2257 link on your galleries, however it would be a very good
idea to begin including that. It wil be for your protection as well as my
own.

Doctor Dre · 08-22-2004, 03:45 PM

The guy is freaking out a little or what ? The resolution haven't even been adopted

Peaches · 08-22-2004, 03:46 PM

YOUR sales will probably go up, but I wonder if they will lose surfers in a few months who know they can get hardcore elsewhere?

It will be a very interesting to watch.

Jakke PNG · 08-22-2004, 03:51 PM

I'm all cool and dandy with that decision if he only means the thumbs we give for him to use on his site.

It doesn't really specify, but one COULD interpret that message so that all thumbnails, including the ones in the gallery should be softcore.

I hope that's not the case.

beemk · 08-22-2004, 03:59 PM

i dont think he means the thumbs on your gallery, the thumbs that you submit that he hosts on his own server. i dont see any problem here.

Peaches · 08-22-2004, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beemk
i dont think he means the thumbs on your gallery, the thumbs that you submit that he hosts on his own server. i dont see any problem here.

That would make a lot more sense

doober · 08-22-2004, 04:05 PM

I dont think doing this will make any difference legally but its his site and his rules.

this proposed 2257 shit has everyone freaking out for nothing imho

nicchick · 08-22-2004, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beemk
i dont think he means the thumbs on your gallery, the thumbs that you submit that he hosts on his own server. i dont see any problem here.

I disagree - I think it's pretty clear that he means the thumbs on your galleries.

KY Jelly · 08-22-2004, 04:07 PM

going softcore is a good thing
wish all free shit switched to softcore

Panky · 08-22-2004, 04:09 PM

Is MadThumbs allowing for the extra outbound link to 2257 ?

TechNtentions · 08-22-2004, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nicchick
I disagree - I think it's pretty clear that he means the thumbs on your galleries.

no, he means anything that will be on HIS server. Therefore, only the single thumb. Anything on your galleries doesn't matter becasue he is not hosting it, so 2257 will not affect him once YOUR content is being shown. Once your gallery comes up, you will then be responsible for 2257.

beemk · 08-22-2004, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nicchick
I disagree - I think it's pretty clear that he means the thumbs on your galleries.

i could be wrong... its happened before once or twice. im just making an assumption. i doubt he means all the thumbs on your gallery though.

madthumbs · 08-22-2004, 04:25 PM

I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me. I guess I need to send out another message to clarify.

And yes, it does make a difference legally. If my thumbnails that are shown on my TGP's are softcore, then they do not require 2257 documents to be stored by me.

And no, I'm not freaking out. If the time comes that people are being prosecuted for hardcore thumbnails with no 2257 documents, then I am completely wacked. I want to have a database of softcore thumbnails available so that I won't lose all of my traffic.

Thumb tgps do better when the thumbnails are softcore .. Any big thumb tgp owner will tell you that. The prod automatically increases because people click more to see if the chick is getting fucked .. or what's going on .. If its all put out there in the thumbnail then they may not click as much.

beemk · 08-22-2004, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober
but its his site and his rules.

exactly, if they dont like it no one is forcing them to submit.

beemk · 08-22-2004, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nicchick
I disagree - I think it's pretty clear that he means the thumbs on your galleries.

Quote:

Originally posted by madthumbs
I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me.

GOT EM

BVF · 08-22-2004, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by madthumbs
I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me. I guess I need to send out another message to clarify.

No need. Anybody with a brain that submits to madthumbs would know that it means the thumbs that are submitted.

cosis · 08-22-2004, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nicchick
I disagree - I think it's pretty clear that he means the thumbs on your galleries.

VeriSexy · 08-22-2004, 05:07 PM

I think softcore thumbs is a good move

Makingcoin · 08-22-2004, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by madthumbs
I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me. I guess I need to send out another message to clarify.

And yes, it does make a difference legally. If my thumbnails that are shown on my TGP's are softcore, then they do not require 2257 documents to be stored by me.

And no, I'm not freaking out. If the time comes that people are being prosecuted for hardcore thumbnails with no 2257 documents, then I am completely wacked. I want to have a database of softcore thumbnails available so that I won't lose all of my traffic.

Thumb tgps do better when the thumbnails are softcore .. Any big thumb tgp owner will tell you that. The prod automatically increases because people click more to see if the chick is getting fucked .. or what's going on .. If its all put out there in the thumbnail then they may not click as much.

Great idea Mike...

RaGe · 08-22-2004, 05:12 PM

Mike knows what he's doing. I support this. I'd be doing the same if I lived in the US. Right now I will wait a little longer first to see how it all turns out.

08-22-2004, 05:16 PM

Wise decision Mike

AaronM · 08-22-2004, 05:20 PM

LadyMischief · 08-22-2004, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by madthumbs
I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me. I guess I need to send out another message to clarify.

And yes, it does make a difference legally. If my thumbnails that are shown on my TGP's are softcore, then they do not require 2257 documents to be stored by me.

And no, I'm not freaking out. If the time comes that people are being prosecuted for hardcore thumbnails with no 2257 documents, then I am completely wacked. I want to have a database of softcore thumbnails available so that I won't lose all of my traffic.

Thumb tgps do better when the thumbnails are softcore .. Any big thumb tgp owner will tell you that. The prod automatically increases because people click more to see if the chick is getting fucked .. or what's going on .. If its all put out there in the thumbnail then they may not click as much.

Yes, everyone submitting to madthumbs should see a huge increase in productivity with the introduction of the softcore thumbs. People should be happy, it's going to be making their partner accounts that much more valuable (not to mention paid spots).

Spunky · 08-22-2004, 05:22 PM

Better safe then sorry

MediumPimpin · 08-22-2004, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
Yes, everyone submitting to madthumbs should see a huge increase in productivity with the introduction of the softcore thumbs. People should be happy, it's going to be making their partner accounts that much more valuable (not to mention paid spots).

I have lots of softcore

LadyMischief · 08-22-2004, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MediumPimpin
I have lots of softcore

Why, you're right, you do!!

madthumbs · 08-22-2004, 05:29 PM

BTW guys .. I know there is a chance that nothing will come of this ... but honestly ...

#1 - I have a TGP with easy access to hardcore content.
#2 - It's huge and is well known
#3 - I display hardcore images that the DOJ knows I dont have documentation for.

So I mean .. it would be a very high risk for me as a US citizen to not at least take some steps to protect myself.

I know most people are going to 'Sit back and wait and see where this goes ...' ... but in my posistion I can NOT do this ...

I'm a likely candidate for one of the first inspections ... so there is no room for seeing where it goes .. either I take the steps to protect my interests, or I take a huge chance of losing everything Ive worked for.

I hope you fuckers understand ;-)

cosis · 08-22-2004, 05:30 PM

I only have softcore so I am happy with this

Eric · 08-22-2004, 05:31 PM

Mike,

I am behind you 100% on this one. This crack down is going to hit all of us. In the way we promote and the way we sell our products.

BarneyRubble · 08-22-2004, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by madthumbs
I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me. I guess I need to send out another message to clarify.

And yes, it does make a difference legally. If my thumbnails that are shown on my TGP's are softcore, then they do not require 2257 documents to be stored by me.

And no, I'm not freaking out. If the time comes that people are being prosecuted for hardcore thumbnails with no 2257 documents, then I am completely wacked. I want to have a database of softcore thumbnails available so that I won't lose all of my traffic.

Thumb tgps do better when the thumbnails are softcore .. Any big thumb tgp owner will tell you that. The prod automatically increases because people click more to see if the chick is getting fucked .. or what's going on .. If its all put out there in the thumbnail then they may not click as much.

Mike:
If you are requiring galleries to have the 2257 link (which is kinda silly ...), will you be increasing the # of outbound links, or should we remove your sites from our submits?

LadyMischief · 08-22-2004, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by madthumbs
BTW guys .. I know there is a chance that nothing will come of this ... but honestly ...

#1 - I have a TGP with easy access to hardcore content.
#2 - It's huge and is well known
#3 - I display hardcore images that the DOJ knows I dont have documentation for.

So I mean .. it would be a very high risk for me as a US citizen to not at least take some steps to protect myself.

I know most people are going to 'Sit back and wait and see where this goes ...' ... but in my posistion I can NOT do this ...

I'm a likely candidate for one of the first inspections ... so there is no room for seeing where it goes .. either I take the steps to protect my interests, or I take a huge chance of losing everything Ive worked for.

I hope you fuckers understand ;-)

Honestly man, if more tgps followed suit, I think everyone would notice an increase in productivity. There have been tgp detractors for ages that have been saying tgps offer too much access to free porn... Even though it seems like a small limitation, I can almost guarantee this will have that kind of vacuum effect.

Brad Mitchell · 08-22-2004, 05:40 PM

I'm very impressed with the change in policy. I think you will see more TGP's follow suit eventually.

Brad

madthumbs · 08-22-2004, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BarneyRubble
Mike:
If you are requiring galleries to have the 2257 link (which is kinda silly ...), will you be increasing the # of outbound links, or should we remove your sites from our submits?

You can give me your username and I'll go ahead and delete your account since your an asshole ;-) ...

Although there was no clear answer in Miami ... I talked to a few lawyers and several knowledable people ...

If a gallery is non-compliant and doesn't have the 2257 link that shows the Custodian of Records, and I am linking to it, I could potentially be prosecuted for 'aiding and abiding' .. so to put it in laymens terms, I would be gulity by association.

The lawyers said that based on the law, the DOJ very well could come after me for that ... but that's the thign they have the least chance of getting me for since it is simply linking.

madthumbs · 08-22-2004, 05:44 PM

And in case you didn't notice, MT has a limit on outgoing links of like 30 .. if u cant fit ur sponsor links in there with a 2257 link then you probably should stop submitting :-/

Halo18 · 08-22-2004, 05:49 PM

Do whatever you feel you have to in order to protect the investment you've made.

LadyMischief · 08-22-2004, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by madthumbs
And in case you didn't notice, MT has a limit on outgoing links of like 30 .. if u cant fit ur sponsor links in there with a 2257 link then you probably should stop submitting :-/

Lol! This policy would be in affect for all sites on your network, correct?

beemk · 08-22-2004, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Also, I am not inititally requiring a 2257 link on your galleries

Quote:

Originally posted by BarneyRubble
Mike:
If you are requiring galleries to have the 2257 link (which is kinda silly ...)

please visit http://www.hop.com/

johnny1 · 08-22-2004, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by madthumbs
I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me. I guess I need to send out another message to clarify.

And yes, it does make a difference legally. If my thumbnails that are shown on my TGP's are softcore, then they do not require 2257 documents to be stored by me.

And no, I'm not freaking out. If the time comes that people are being prosecuted for hardcore thumbnails with no 2257 documents, then I am completely wacked. I want to have a database of softcore thumbnails available so that I won't lose all of my traffic.

Thumb tgps do better when the thumbnails are softcore .. Any big thumb tgp owner will tell you that. The prod automatically increases because people click more to see if the chick is getting fucked .. or what's going on .. If its all put out there in the thumbnail then they may not click as much.

baddog · 08-22-2004, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
The guy is freaking out a little or what ? The resolution haven't even been adopted

freaking out? not exactly. smart move on his part, look for it to happen more and more

baddog · 08-22-2004, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nicchick
I disagree - I think it's pretty clear that he means the thumbs on your galleries.

not what it means to me or anyone else that has half a clue about the new 2257 regs

Bansheelinks · 08-22-2004, 06:12 PM

you can thank the republican party for the fear they are instilling. now it appears tgp owners of thumb tgps won't even host their thumbs in another country for fear of the DOJ. why won't you do this mike? you just don't want to instigate anything at all? fuck bush and his administration.

Nima · 08-22-2004, 06:14 PM

this is definitely the right way to go! better safe than sorry

the_wizz · 08-22-2004, 06:14 PM

I think either way its a good move... the galleries where its just a face shot, or the top half of a single girl gets more clicks.....

Its better business sense....

baddog · 08-22-2004, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF
No need. Anybody with a brain that submits to madthumbs would know that it means the thumbs that are submitted.

agreed . . . .it might be a good way to weed out the dumbasses

madthumbs · 08-22-2004, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bansheelinks
you can thank the republican party for the fear they are instilling. now it appears tgp owners of thumb tgps won't even host their thumbs in another country for fear of the DOJ. why won't you do this mike? you just don't want to instigate anything at all? fuck bush and his administration.

If I hot link an image it still has to have 2257 information. Hot likning is not exempt.

aleck · 08-22-2004, 06:22 PM

the idea is good and the timing is perfect

crockett · 08-22-2004, 06:23 PM

good call man, your right being such a big and well know site you could very likey be a target if they go balls to the wall on this.

personally I'm holding off a bit, to see where this all goes because after all, if the ruleing passes the way it is we still have 30 days to comply(which is enough wiggle room for me). However I recrop a high precentage of the thumbs from submitted galleries and I have been making them softcore just to get the surfers used to it. It dose seem to help in the click through ratio..

The crappy thing is I was getting close to opening some cumshot and more harcore sites.. which with this new version of the 2257 it really sucks because looks like I'll have to make them text if I do.

Trax · 08-22-2004, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by madthumbs
If I hot link an image it still has to have 2257 information. Hot likning is not exempt.

are you 100% sure that this is the case?

I am thinking of Google Images and alike:
http://images.google.com/images?q=ha...ie=UTF-8&hl=en

I assume they have no 2257 for those thumbs

Bansheelinks · 08-22-2004, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by madthumbs
If I hot link an image it still has to have 2257 information. Hot likning is not exempt.

the bush admin. are a bunch of retards...........its only a matter of time before this law gets struck down due to invasion of privacy........its an election year and Bush this will be one line in Bush's acceptance speech, you wait and see; this is a one-line issue for that speech so he can stroke his religious right and say, "Look I'm goin' after the pornographers."

Not that he can pronounce or spell the word.

Bansheelinks · 08-22-2004, 06:53 PM

Quote:

I'm a goin' after dem der porn-O-grapheers! Yeahhhhhhhawwwww!!!!!!!!!

08-22-2004, 03:51 PM	#4
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	I'm all cool and dandy with that decision if he only means the thumbs we give for him to use on his site. It doesn't really specify, but one COULD interpret that message so that all thumbnails, including the ones in the gallery should be softcore. I hope that's not the case. __________________ ..and I'm off.

08-22-2004, 03:59 PM	#5
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08-22-2004, 05:07 PM	#18
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08-22-2004, 05:12 PM	#20
RaGe Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,158	Mike knows what he's doing. I support this. I'd be doing the same if I lived in the US. Right now I will wait a little longer first to see how it all turns out. __________________ Get your guaranteed gallery listings on bunnyteens.com! Over 650k hits daily. One of the original thumb TGPs! Click here.

08-22-2004, 05:22 PM	#24
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08-22-2004, 03:42 PM	#1
Rambozo Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 117	Mad Thumbs New Policy I just got this e-mail from the honcho over at Mad Thumbs- Due to the new 2257 regulations, as of Tuesday, August 24th I request that ALL thumbnails be SOFTCORE. This means that they can not show any insertion or sexual touching. This means no dildos, fingering, spreading the pussy, fucking, dicks in a girls mouth, etc. Just nudity etc is ok. I prefer clean face shots as well. > > Please do not push the envelope because if I feel that you are even getting close to the line I will remove your partner account and delete all of your old galleries. 2257 is a very serious situation and I must put forth these rules to proect myself, and as a submitter who recieves free traffic, you are required to follow them. Also, I am not inititally requiring a 2257 link on your galleries, however it would be a very good idea to begin including that. It wil be for your protection as well as my own.

08-22-2004, 03:46 PM	#3
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	YOUR sales will probably go up, but I wonder if they will lose surfers in a few months who know they can get hardcore elsewhere? It will be a very interesting to watch.

08-22-2004, 04:05 PM	#7
doober Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in yoOoo kitchen Posts: 6,984	I dont think doing this will make any difference legally but its his site and his rules. this proposed 2257 shit has everyone freaking out for nothing imho

08-22-2004, 04:07 PM	#9
KY Jelly Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fucking your wife Posts: 19	going softcore is a good thing wish all free shit switched to softcore

08-22-2004, 04:09 PM	#10
Panky Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 269	Is MadThumbs allowing for the extra outbound link to 2257 ?

08-22-2004, 04:25 PM	#13
madthumbs Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 339	I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me. I guess I need to send out another message to clarify. And yes, it does make a difference legally. If my thumbnails that are shown on my TGP's are softcore, then they do not require 2257 documents to be stored by me. And no, I'm not freaking out. If the time comes that people are being prosecuted for hardcore thumbnails with no 2257 documents, then I am completely wacked. I want to have a database of softcore thumbnails available so that I won't lose all of my traffic. Thumb tgps do better when the thumbnails are softcore .. Any big thumb tgp owner will tell you that. The prod automatically increases because people click more to see if the chick is getting fucked .. or what's going on .. If its all put out there in the thumbnail then they may not click as much.

08-22-2004, 05:16 PM	#21
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Wise decision Mike

08-22-2004, 05:20 PM	#22
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08-22-2004, 05:29 PM	#27
madthumbs Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 339	BTW guys .. I know there is a chance that nothing will come of this ... but honestly ... #1 - I have a TGP with easy access to hardcore content. #2 - It's huge and is well known #3 - I display hardcore images that the DOJ knows I dont have documentation for. So I mean .. it would be a very high risk for me as a US citizen to not at least take some steps to protect myself. I know most people are going to 'Sit back and wait and see where this goes ...' ... but in my posistion I can NOT do this ... I'm a likely candidate for one of the first inspections ... so there is no room for seeing where it goes .. either I take the steps to protect my interests, or I take a huge chance of losing everything Ive worked for. I hope you fuckers understand ;-)

08-22-2004, 05:30 PM	#28
cosis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Beach Posts: 5,281	I only have softcore so I am happy with this

08-22-2004, 05:31 PM	#29
Eric Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The Helm! Posts: 8,818	Mike, I am behind you 100% on this one. This crack down is going to hit all of us. In the way we promote and the way we sell our products. __________________ No One

08-22-2004, 05:40 PM	#32
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	I'm very impressed with the change in policy. I think you will see more TGP's follow suit eventually. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

08-22-2004, 05:44 PM	#34
madthumbs Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 339	And in case you didn't notice, MT has a limit on outgoing links of like 30 .. if u cant fit ur sponsor links in there with a 2257 link then you probably should stop submitting :-/

08-22-2004, 05:49 PM	#35
Halo18 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 312	Do whatever you feel you have to in order to protect the investment you've made.

08-22-2004, 06:12 PM	#41
Bansheelinks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,023	you can thank the republican party for the fear they are instilling. now it appears tgp owners of thumb tgps won't even host their thumbs in another country for fear of the DOJ. why won't you do this mike? you just don't want to instigate anything at all? fuck bush and his administration.

08-22-2004, 06:14 PM	#42
Nima Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,192	this is definitely the right way to go! better safe than sorry

08-22-2004, 06:14 PM	#43
the_wizz Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: hmmm..... Posts: 1,633	I think either way its a good move... the galleries where its just a face shot, or the top half of a single girl gets more clicks..... Its better business sense.... __________________ Promote the Best

08-22-2004, 06:22 PM	#46
aleck Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 940	the idea is good and the timing is perfect __________________ come trade shemale traffic here

08-22-2004, 06:23 PM	#47
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	good call man, your right being such a big and well know site you could very likey be a target if they go balls to the wall on this. personally I'm holding off a bit, to see where this all goes because after all, if the ruleing passes the way it is we still have 30 days to comply(which is enough wiggle room for me). However I recrop a high precentage of the thumbs from submitted galleries and I have been making them softcore just to get the surfers used to it. It dose seem to help in the click through ratio.. The crappy thing is I was getting close to opening some cumshot and more harcore sites.. which with this new version of the 2257 it really sucks because looks like I'll have to make them text if I do. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.