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  • Rambozo
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2003
    • 117

    #1

    Mad Thumbs New Policy

    I just got this e-mail from the honcho over at Mad Thumbs-

    Due to the new 2257 regulations, as of Tuesday, August 24th I
    request that *ALL* thumbnails be *SOFTCORE*. This means that they can not
    show any insertion or sexual touching. This means no dildos, fingering,
    spreading the pussy, fucking, dicks in a girls mouth, etc. Just nudity etc
    is ok. I prefer clean face shots as well.
    >
    > Please do not push the envelope because if I feel that you are even
    getting close to the line I *will* remove your partner account and delete
    all of your old galleries. 2257 is a very serious situation and I must put
    forth these rules to proect myself, and as a submitter who recieves free
    traffic, you are required to follow them. Also, I am not inititally
    requiring a 2257 link on your galleries, however it would be a very good
    idea to begin including that. It wil be for your protection as well as my
    own.
  • Doctor Dre
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 51692

    #2
    The guy is freaking out a little or what ? The resolution haven't even been adopted
    Originally posted by rayadp05
    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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    • Peaches
      Old broad
      • Oct 2002
      • 13933

      #3
      YOUR sales will probably go up, but I wonder if they will lose surfers in a few months who know they can get hardcore elsewhere?

      It will be a very interesting to watch.

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      • Jakke PNG
        ex-TeenGodFather
        • Nov 2001
        • 20306

        #4
        I'm all cool and dandy with that decision if he only means the thumbs we give for him to use on his site.

        It doesn't really specify, but one COULD interpret that message so that all thumbnails, including the ones in the gallery should be softcore.
        I hope that's not the case.
        ..and I'm off.

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        • beemk
          CLICK HERE
          • Jan 2002
          • 20829

          #5
          i dont think he means the thumbs on your gallery, the thumbs that you submit that he hosts on his own server. i dont see any problem here.
          I host with Vacares

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          • Peaches
            Old broad
            • Oct 2002
            • 13933

            #6
            Originally posted by beemk
            i dont think he means the thumbs on your gallery, the thumbs that you submit that he hosts on his own server. i dont see any problem here.
            That would make a lot more sense

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            • doober
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2003
              • 6984

              #7
              I dont think doing this will make any difference legally but its his site and his rules.

              this proposed 2257 shit has everyone freaking out for nothing imho

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              • nicchick
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2003
                • 316

                #8
                Originally posted by beemk
                i dont think he means the thumbs on your gallery, the thumbs that you submit that he hosts on his own server. i dont see any problem here.
                I disagree - I think it's pretty clear that he means the thumbs on your galleries.

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                • KY Jelly
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 19

                  #9
                  going softcore is a good thing
                  wish all free shit switched to softcore

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                  • Panky
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 269

                    #10
                    Is MadThumbs allowing for the extra outbound link to 2257 ?

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                    • TechNtentions
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 1119

                      #11
                      Originally posted by nicchick
                      I disagree - I think it's pretty clear that he means the thumbs on your galleries.
                      no, he means anything that will be on HIS server. Therefore, only the single thumb. Anything on your galleries doesn't matter becasue he is not hosting it, so 2257 will not affect him once YOUR content is being shown. Once your gallery comes up, you will then be responsible for 2257.
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                      • beemk
                        CLICK HERE
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 20829

                        #12
                        Originally posted by nicchick
                        I disagree - I think it's pretty clear that he means the thumbs on your galleries.
                        i could be wrong... its happened before once or twice. im just making an assumption. i doubt he means all the thumbs on your gallery though.
                        I host with Vacares

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                        • madthumbs
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2002
                          • 339

                          #13
                          I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me. I guess I need to send out another message to clarify.

                          And yes, it does make a difference legally. If my thumbnails that are shown on my TGP's are softcore, then they do not require 2257 documents to be stored by me.

                          And no, I'm not freaking out. If the time comes that people are being prosecuted for hardcore thumbnails with no 2257 documents, then I am completely wacked. I want to have a database of softcore thumbnails available so that I won't lose all of my traffic.

                          Thumb tgps do better when the thumbnails are softcore .. Any big thumb tgp owner will tell you that. The prod automatically increases because people click more to see if the chick is getting fucked .. or what's going on .. If its all put out there in the thumbnail then they may not click as much.

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                          • beemk
                            CLICK HERE
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 20829

                            #14
                            Originally posted by doober
                            but its his site and his rules.
                            exactly, if they dont like it no one is forcing them to submit.
                            I host with Vacares

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                            • beemk
                              CLICK HERE
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 20829

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nicchick
                              I disagree - I think it's pretty clear that he means the thumbs on your galleries.
                              Originally posted by madthumbs
                              I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me.
                              GOT EM
                              I host with Vacares

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                              • BVF
                                Black Vagina Finder
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 13975

                                #16
                                Originally posted by madthumbs
                                I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me. I guess I need to send out another message to clarify.
                                No need. Anybody with a brain that submits to madthumbs would know that it means the thumbs that are submitted.

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                                • cosis
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 5292

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by nicchick
                                  I disagree - I think it's pretty clear that he means the thumbs on your galleries.

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                                  • VeriSexy
                                    Join The Royal Family
                                    • Apr 2002
                                    • 25463

                                    #18
                                    I think softcore thumbs is a good move
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                                    • Makingcoin
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 8919

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by madthumbs
                                      I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me. I guess I need to send out another message to clarify.

                                      And yes, it does make a difference legally. If my thumbnails that are shown on my TGP's are softcore, then they do not require 2257 documents to be stored by me.

                                      And no, I'm not freaking out. If the time comes that people are being prosecuted for hardcore thumbnails with no 2257 documents, then I am completely wacked. I want to have a database of softcore thumbnails available so that I won't lose all of my traffic.

                                      Thumb tgps do better when the thumbnails are softcore .. Any big thumb tgp owner will tell you that. The prod automatically increases because people click more to see if the chick is getting fucked .. or what's going on .. If its all put out there in the thumbnail then they may not click as much.


                                      Great idea Mike...

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                                      • RaGe
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 1158

                                        #20
                                        Mike knows what he's doing. I support this. I'd be doing the same if I lived in the US. Right now I will wait a little longer first to see how it all turns out.
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                                        • X37375787

                                          #21
                                          Wise decision Mike

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                                          • AaronM
                                            GFY Royality ;)
                                            • Oct 2001
                                            • 46923

                                            #22

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                                            • LadyMischief
                                              Orgasms N Such!
                                              • Sep 2002
                                              • 18135

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by madthumbs
                                              I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me. I guess I need to send out another message to clarify.

                                              And yes, it does make a difference legally. If my thumbnails that are shown on my TGP's are softcore, then they do not require 2257 documents to be stored by me.

                                              And no, I'm not freaking out. If the time comes that people are being prosecuted for hardcore thumbnails with no 2257 documents, then I am completely wacked. I want to have a database of softcore thumbnails available so that I won't lose all of my traffic.

                                              Thumb tgps do better when the thumbnails are softcore .. Any big thumb tgp owner will tell you that. The prod automatically increases because people click more to see if the chick is getting fucked .. or what's going on .. If its all put out there in the thumbnail then they may not click as much.
                                              Yes, everyone submitting to madthumbs should see a huge increase in productivity with the introduction of the softcore thumbs. People should be happy, it's going to be making their partner accounts that much more valuable (not to mention paid spots).

                                              ICQ 3522039
                                              Content Manager - orgasm.com
                                              [email protected]

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                                              • Spunky
                                                I need a beer
                                                • Jun 2002
                                                • 133987

                                                #24
                                                Better safe then sorry

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                                                • MediumPimpin
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 1488

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                  Yes, everyone submitting to madthumbs should see a huge increase in productivity with the introduction of the softcore thumbs. People should be happy, it's going to be making their partner accounts that much more valuable (not to mention paid spots).
                                                  I have lots of softcore
                                                  nats.mediumpimpin.com

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                                                  • LadyMischief
                                                    Orgasms N Such!
                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                    • 18135

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MediumPimpin
                                                    I have lots of softcore
                                                    Why, you're right, you do!!

                                                    ICQ 3522039
                                                    Content Manager - orgasm.com
                                                    [email protected]

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                                                    • madthumbs
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                      • 339

                                                      #27
                                                      BTW guys .. I know there is a chance that nothing will come of this ... but honestly ...

                                                      #1 - I have a TGP with easy access to hardcore content.
                                                      #2 - It's huge and is well known
                                                      #3 - I display hardcore images that the DOJ knows I dont have documentation for.

                                                      So I mean .. it would be a very high risk for me as a US citizen to not at least take some steps to protect myself.

                                                      I know most people are going to 'Sit back and wait and see where this goes ...' ... but in my posistion I can NOT do this ...

                                                      I'm a likely candidate for one of the first inspections ... so there is no room for seeing where it goes .. either I take the steps to protect my interests, or I take a huge chance of losing everything Ive worked for.

                                                      I hope you fuckers understand ;-)

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                                                      • cosis
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                        • 5292

                                                        #28
                                                        I only have softcore so I am happy with this

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                                                        • Eric
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Dec 2000
                                                          • 8818

                                                          #29
                                                          Mike,

                                                          I am behind you 100% on this one. This crack down is going to hit all of us. In the way we promote and the way we sell our products.
                                                          No One

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                                                          • BarneyRubble
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • May 2004
                                                            • 279

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by madthumbs
                                                            I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me. I guess I need to send out another message to clarify.

                                                            And yes, it does make a difference legally. If my thumbnails that are shown on my TGP's are softcore, then they do not require 2257 documents to be stored by me.

                                                            And no, I'm not freaking out. If the time comes that people are being prosecuted for hardcore thumbnails with no 2257 documents, then I am completely wacked. I want to have a database of softcore thumbnails available so that I won't lose all of my traffic.

                                                            Thumb tgps do better when the thumbnails are softcore .. Any big thumb tgp owner will tell you that. The prod automatically increases because people click more to see if the chick is getting fucked .. or what's going on .. If its all put out there in the thumbnail then they may not click as much.
                                                            Mike:
                                                            If you are requiring galleries to have the 2257 link (which is kinda silly ...), will you be increasing the # of outbound links, or should we remove your sites from our submits?
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                                                            • LadyMischief
                                                              Orgasms N Such!
                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                              • 18135

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by madthumbs
                                                              BTW guys .. I know there is a chance that nothing will come of this ... but honestly ...

                                                              #1 - I have a TGP with easy access to hardcore content.
                                                              #2 - It's huge and is well known
                                                              #3 - I display hardcore images that the DOJ knows I dont have documentation for.

                                                              So I mean .. it would be a very high risk for me as a US citizen to not at least take some steps to protect myself.

                                                              I know most people are going to 'Sit back and wait and see where this goes ...' ... but in my posistion I can NOT do this ...

                                                              I'm a likely candidate for one of the first inspections ... so there is no room for seeing where it goes .. either I take the steps to protect my interests, or I take a huge chance of losing everything Ive worked for.

                                                              I hope you fuckers understand ;-)
                                                              Honestly man, if more tgps followed suit, I think everyone would notice an increase in productivity. There have been tgp detractors for ages that have been saying tgps offer too much access to free porn... Even though it seems like a small limitation, I can almost guarantee this will have that kind of vacuum effect.

                                                              ICQ 3522039
                                                              Content Manager - orgasm.com
                                                              [email protected]

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                                                              • SinEmpire
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2001
                                                                • 9813

                                                                #32
                                                                I'm very impressed with the change in policy. I think you will see more TGP's follow suit eventually.

                                                                Brad
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                                                                • madthumbs
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                                  • 339

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BarneyRubble
                                                                  Mike:
                                                                  If you are requiring galleries to have the 2257 link (which is kinda silly ...), will you be increasing the # of outbound links, or should we remove your sites from our submits?

                                                                  You can give me your username and I'll go ahead and delete your account since your an asshole ;-) ...

                                                                  Although there was no clear answer in Miami ... I talked to a few lawyers and several knowledable people ...

                                                                  If a gallery is non-compliant and doesn't have the 2257 link that shows the Custodian of Records, and I am linking to it, I could potentially be prosecuted for 'aiding and abiding' .. so to put it in laymens terms, I would be gulity by association.

                                                                  The lawyers said that based on the law, the DOJ very well could come after me for that ... but that's the thign they have the least chance of getting me for since it is simply linking.

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                                                                  • madthumbs
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                    • 339

                                                                    #34
                                                                    And in case you didn't notice, MT has a limit on outgoing links of like 30 .. if u cant fit ur sponsor links in there with a 2257 link then you probably should stop submitting :-/

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                                                                    • Halo18
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                      • 312

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Do whatever you feel you have to in order to protect the investment you've made.

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                                                                      • LadyMischief
                                                                        Orgasms N Such!
                                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                                        • 18135

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by madthumbs
                                                                        And in case you didn't notice, MT has a limit on outgoing links of like 30 .. if u cant fit ur sponsor links in there with a 2257 link then you probably should stop submitting :-/
                                                                        Lol! This policy would be in affect for all sites on your network, correct?

                                                                        ICQ 3522039
                                                                        Content Manager - orgasm.com
                                                                        [email protected]

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                                                                        • beemk
                                                                          CLICK HERE
                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                          • 20829

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Also, I am not inititally requiring a 2257 link on your galleries
                                                                          Originally posted by BarneyRubble
                                                                          Mike:
                                                                          If you are requiring galleries to have the 2257 link (which is kinda silly ...)
                                                                          please visit http://www.hop.com/
                                                                          I host with Vacares

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                                                                          • johnny1
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                                            • 872

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by madthumbs
                                                                            I'm talking about the thumbnail that they submit to me. I guess I need to send out another message to clarify.

                                                                            And yes, it does make a difference legally. If my thumbnails that are shown on my TGP's are softcore, then they do not require 2257 documents to be stored by me.

                                                                            And no, I'm not freaking out. If the time comes that people are being prosecuted for hardcore thumbnails with no 2257 documents, then I am completely wacked. I want to have a database of softcore thumbnails available so that I won't lose all of my traffic.

                                                                            Thumb tgps do better when the thumbnails are softcore .. Any big thumb tgp owner will tell you that. The prod automatically increases because people click more to see if the chick is getting fucked .. or what's going on .. If its all put out there in the thumbnail then they may not click as much.
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                                                                            • baddog
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                                              • 107089

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                              The guy is freaking out a little or what ? The resolution haven't even been adopted
                                                                              freaking out? not exactly. smart move on his part, look for it to happen more and more

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                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                • 107089

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by nicchick
                                                                                I disagree - I think it's pretty clear that he means the thumbs on your galleries.
                                                                                not what it means to me or anyone else that has half a clue about the new 2257 regs

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                                                                                • Bansheelinks
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                  • 6023

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  you can thank the republican party for the fear they are instilling. now it appears tgp owners of thumb tgps won't even host their thumbs in another country for fear of the DOJ. why won't you do this mike? you just don't want to instigate anything at all? fuck bush and his administration.

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                                                                                  • Nima
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                    • 2192

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    this is definitely the right way to go! better safe than sorry

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                                                                                    • the_wizz
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                      • 1633

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I think either way its a good move... the galleries where its just a face shot, or the top half of a single girl gets more clicks.....

                                                                                      Its better business sense....
                                                                                      Promote the Best

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                                                                                      • baddog
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                                        • 107089

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by BVF
                                                                                        No need. Anybody with a brain that submits to madthumbs would know that it means the thumbs that are submitted.
                                                                                        agreed . . . .it might be a good way to weed out the dumbasses

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                                                                                        • madthumbs
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                          • 339

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Bansheelinks
                                                                                          you can thank the republican party for the fear they are instilling. now it appears tgp owners of thumb tgps won't even host their thumbs in another country for fear of the DOJ. why won't you do this mike? you just don't want to instigate anything at all? fuck bush and his administration.

                                                                                          If I hot link an image it still has to have 2257 information. Hot likning is not exempt.

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                                                                                          • aleck
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                            • 940

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            the idea is good and the timing is perfect

                                                                                            come trade shemale traffic here

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                                                                                            • crockett
                                                                                              in a van by the river
                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                              • 76818

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              good call man, your right being such a big and well know site you could very likey be a target if they go balls to the wall on this.

                                                                                              personally I'm holding off a bit, to see where this all goes because after all, if the ruleing passes the way it is we still have 30 days to comply(which is enough wiggle room for me). However I recrop a high precentage of the thumbs from submitted galleries and I have been making them softcore just to get the surfers used to it. It dose seem to help in the click through ratio..

                                                                                              The crappy thing is I was getting close to opening some cumshot and more harcore sites.. which with this new version of the 2257 it really sucks because looks like I'll have to make them text if I do.
                                                                                              In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                              • Trax
                                                                                                [----------------------]
                                                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                                                • 14486

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by madthumbs
                                                                                                If I hot link an image it still has to have 2257 information. Hot likning is not exempt.
                                                                                                are you 100% sure that this is the case?

                                                                                                I am thinking of Google Images and alike:
                                                                                                http://images.google.com/images?q=ha...ie=UTF-8&hl=en

                                                                                                I assume they have no 2257 for those thumbs

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                                                                                                • Bansheelinks
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                                                                  • 6023

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by madthumbs
                                                                                                  If I hot link an image it still has to have 2257 information. Hot likning is not exempt.
                                                                                                  the bush admin. are a bunch of retards...........its only a matter of time before this law gets struck down due to invasion of privacy........its an election year and Bush this will be one line in Bush's acceptance speech, you wait and see; this is a one-line issue for that speech so he can stroke his religious right and say, "Look I'm goin' after the pornographers."

                                                                                                  Not that he can pronounce or spell the word.

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                                                                                                  • Bansheelinks
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                                                    • 6023

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    I'm a goin' after dem der porn-O-grapheers! Yeahhhhhhhawwwww!!!!!!!!!

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