How much would you pay for 3000 recurring ACTIVE members? - GoFuckYourself.com

AdnerAdvertising · 08-20-2004, 06:44 PM

I was getting shitty until I bumped into this...

I found a site who wants to sell with 3,000 active members, site looks great! (went through the whole site and i'm impressed). Hes getting a consistent 50-100 sales a day, hes willing to include all the traffic that comes to it and guarantees it to continue to work with his methods already established.

Total gross monthly for the site is:
100k - 140k

HOW MUCH SHOULD I OFFER?

and what would a site that big honestly cost?

Project-Shadow · 08-20-2004, 06:51 PM

I'd say 4-6 months revenue minimum..

freeadultcontent · 08-20-2004, 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by Project-Shadow
I'd say 4-6 months revenue minimum..

I would say that is way under unless he is running from the law or it is a divorce or other fire sale.

Napolean · 08-20-2004, 06:52 PM

$105k seems to be the popular bid most sponsors would use ($35/signup)

Paul Waters · 08-20-2004, 06:53 PM

offer 50% of net revenue for 2 years

Raf1 · 08-20-2004, 06:55 PM

ask him what price he is looking for and start negotiating. If he's in need of cash, you can get the price down drastically.

AkiraSS · 08-20-2004, 06:55 PM

$1 mil

SomeCreep · 08-20-2004, 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by AdnerAdvertising
I was getting shitty until I bumped into this...

I found a site who wants to sell with 3,000 active members, site looks great! (went through the whole site and i'm impressed). Hes getting a consistent 50-100 sales a day, hes willing to include all the traffic that comes to it and guarantees it to continue to work with his methods already established.

Total gross monthly for the site is:
100k - 140k

HOW MUCH SHOULD I OFFER?

and what would a site that big honestly cost?

Offer $1,111,111.11

However, I think that amount of money could be invested in better ways.

quiet · 08-20-2004, 06:58 PM

hmm, where's the traffic coming from? are you sure it's stable? does he have any employees? content (is it exclusive, is any included, can more be produced without too many headaches?)

how sustainable is/are the traffic/signups going to be? big risk issues.

pornguy · 08-20-2004, 07:00 PM

Do your self a favor. Offer him a percentage with a contract.

Some people will come up with some very interesting stats and ways to prove it, and then you get a timex for a rolex price.

Doctor Dre · 08-20-2004, 07:02 PM

Depends if the site is branded or not ...

with a site not branded at all you can pay 3-5 months of revenu . But for that size it would probably be a lot more

Doctor Dre · 08-20-2004, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by Napolean
$105k seems to be the popular bid most sponsors would use ($35/signup)

Ugh ? it makes more every month

Ar3s · 08-20-2004, 07:13 PM

offer 500K$ and try to get it..
sounds good.

kush · 08-20-2004, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by AdnerAdvertising
I was getting shitty until I bumped into this...

I found a site who wants to sell with 3,000 active members, site looks great! (went through the whole site and i'm impressed). Hes getting a consistent 50-100 sales a day, hes willing to include all the traffic that comes to it and guarantees it to continue to work with his methods already established.

Total gross monthly for the site is:
100k - 140k

HOW MUCH SHOULD I OFFER?

and what would a site that big honestly cost?

You need to know where his traffic is coming from.

If the dude's buying gallery spots then obviously you'll need to keep that up once you take it over. Plus how good is the site? How long do you expect those 3,000 active members to be around?

http · 08-20-2004, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by AdnerAdvertising
I was getting shitty until I bumped into this...

I found a site who wants to sell with 3,000 active members, site looks great! (went through the whole site and i'm impressed). Hes getting a consistent 50-100 sales a day, hes willing to include all the traffic that comes to it and guarantees it to continue to work with his methods already established.

Total gross monthly for the site is:
100k - 140k

HOW MUCH SHOULD I OFFER?

and what would a site that big honestly cost?

If he gets 2000 new members a month (30x66), then 3000 members at any given time aren't much? Makes the traffic flow to the site even more important than it generally is.

SuckOnThis · 08-20-2004, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by http
If he gets 2000 new members a month (30x66), then 3000 members at any given time aren't much? Makes the traffic flow to the site even more important than it generally is.

Exactly what I was thinking. At that signup rate they should have at least 30,000 members if they've been around for any length of time. Sounds to me like they may have thrown a lot into advertising the past month or two to try to get a good sale price.

FTVGirls · 08-20-2004, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Exactly what I was thinking. At that signup rate they should have at least 30,000 members if they've been around for any length of time. Sounds to me like they may have thrown a lot into advertising the past month or two to try to get a good sale price.

30,000 active members at 50-100 signups a day? you must be kidding. At very good retention rates expect no more than 6000 active members.

quiet · 08-20-2004, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Exactly what I was thinking. At that signup rate they should have at least 30,000 members if they've been around for any length of time. Sounds to me like they may have thrown a lot into advertising the past month or two to try to get a good sale price.

EscortBiz · 08-20-2004, 08:25 PM

look you have to feel him out, how desperate is he etc.

this is all after you verify that its all legit

Also you might try saying this to him, how much do you want if I can have you the cash within 24 hours, this has gotten me some sick fuckin deals.

Now if the guy aint desperate fuck him it will just be overpriced.

I love dealing with people who need cash now

AdnerAdvertising · 08-21-2004, 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep
Offer $1,111,111.11

However, I think that amount of money could be invested in better ways.

Yeah according to the Epoch numbers, he's had 3000-3500 consistent members for 2 years now. Which my attorney says is good news, the honest price for a site like that is 1 million but I'm going to take everyones advice and offer 500,000$

Hopefully I can get it cheap, the guy is legit I talked to his processor and people they work with.

AdnerAdvertising · 08-21-2004, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
look you have to feel him out, how desperate is he etc.

this is all after you verify that its all legit

Also you might try saying this to him, how much do you want if I can have you the cash within 24 hours, this has gotten me some sick fuckin deals.

Now if the guy aint desperate fuck him it will just be overpriced.

I love dealing with people who need cash now

He dosent want the cash immediately, but hes looking to sell so I'm trying to work something out, I dont think the site is overpriced.

Gottis · 08-21-2004, 11:36 AM

what's the monthly net?

AdnerAdvertising · 08-21-2004, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by Jon Adolfsson
what's the monthly net?

14,000$ on advertising - all content is theirs - 3100 current active members - so about 80-90k a month in net.

AdnerAdvertising · 08-21-2004, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by Napolean
$105k seems to be the popular bid most sponsors would use ($35/signup)

WTF thats what it makes a month lol

Gottis · 08-21-2004, 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by AdnerAdvertising
14,000$ on advertising - all content is theirs - 3100 current active members - so about 80-90k a month in net.

nice little net there. What about new content and updates? Production costs? How much content are they sitting on for the future? Exactly how does the site retain its members?

VMAN · 08-21-2004, 11:50 AM

expect to pay 18 times the net income.

AdnerAdvertising · 08-21-2004, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Jon Adolfsson
nice little net there. What about new content and updates? Production costs? How much content are they sitting on for the future? Exactly how does the site retain its members?

I'll take care of that obviously when I buy it, the net income is worth it.

Retention looks good, conversions are at 50-60%, and they will include all traffic setups to make 50 sales a day at least as soon as the sale is done.

I checked up on all this already, everything checks out great.

AdnerAdvertising · 08-21-2004, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by VMAN
expect to pay 18 times the net income.

Where did you get this info?

Kimmykim · 08-21-2004, 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
30,000 active members at 50-100 signups a day? you must be kidding. At very good retention rates expect no more than 6000 active members.

Glad to see someone being realistic here.

Most sites aren't going to retain members much past 35 days on average, especially if they have jaded surfers who've seen it all. Some of the amateur sites or reality sites, and I mean a slim some, might do better on average but with the number of daily sales this site is doing I wouldn't expect it.

Also, are the initial sales on trials or are they full monthly?

The next question to address is whether or not the processing can transfer to you and what happens when it does. If the sale would require changing the descriptor that the members see, you can immediately figure you're going to lose a large portion of members when they see the difference in the billing on their cc statements.

And last but not least, does this site have 2257 that will be compliant with the new regulations? If not, I wouldn't consider touching it for 25% of what it makes each month, much less a year, since finding the records and getting them into compliance will cost a fortune.

AdnerAdvertising · 08-21-2004, 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Glad to see someone being realistic here.

Most sites aren't going to retain members much past 35 days on average, especially if they have jaded surfers who've seen it all. Some of the amateur sites or reality sites, and I mean a slim some, might do better on average but with the number of daily sales this site is doing I wouldn't expect it.

Also, are the initial sales on trials or are they full monthly?

The next question to address is whether or not the processing can transfer to you and what happens when it does. If the sale would require changing the descriptor that the members see, you can immediately figure you're going to lose a large portion of members when they see the difference in the billing on their cc statements.

And last but not least, does this site have 2257 that will be compliant with the new regulations? If not, I wouldn't consider touching it for 25% of what it makes each month, much less a year, since finding the records and getting them into compliance will cost a fortune.

They have free 1 day trials and full monthly memberships as well. The descriptor wouldn't change its under a DBA name that would be included with the site. Even if the retention goes down they have proven with the Epoch stats that they can retain the 3k members for over 2 years now.

Do you have a link to get information on the new 2257 compliance regulations?

I'd like to check that out, thats about the last thing I haven't checked up on.

AdnerAdvertising · 08-21-2004, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by FTVGirls
30,000 active members at 50-100 signups a day? you must be kidding. At very good retention rates expect no more than 6000 active members.

I agree, from the stats it looks like your right.

Kimmykim · 08-21-2004, 12:38 PM

Do a search for the 2257 information, there's been so much of it here, I'm not going into it again.

As to the descriptor change, descriptors are based on your master code account with the IPSP that you use, and unless the entire master code transfers then the descriptor is not guaranteed to be the same by any means. This I am sure of.

AdnerAdvertising · 08-21-2004, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Do a search for the 2257 information, there's been so much of it here, I'm not going into it again.

As to the descriptor change, descriptors are based on your master code account with the IPSP that you use, and unless the entire master code transfers then the descriptor is not guaranteed to be the same by any means. This I am sure of.

Ok checked out the 2257 and contacted the guy about it,, everything looks good and ready to transfer..

Also, hes going to transfer the entire master code so I contacted Epoch and they say its going to be easy to transfer after a few faxes.

Guess I have the green light

Gottis · 08-21-2004, 01:01 PM

if he sells for $500K he's a retard... but then again, retards don't net close to 100K a month. Keep us posted.

AdnerAdvertising · 08-21-2004, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by Jon Adolfsson
if he sells for $500K he's a retard... but then again, retards don't net close to 100K a month. Keep us posted.

Wish me luck :-)

I talked to an attorney who works with the adult industry hes telling me the same thing lol

Basic_man · 08-21-2004, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by Project-Shadow
I'd say 4-6 months revenue minimum..

Yeah, at least !

EscortBiz · 08-21-2004, 01:07 PM

ok if he doesnt need the cash right away I dont see why he wants to sell, you better investigate this good

enjoy

AdnerAdvertising · 08-21-2004, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
ok if he doesnt need the cash right away I dont see why he wants to sell, you better investigate this good

enjoy

Hes selling because he wants to cash out and wants to move a good amount of liquid capital to invest.

Guys really honest and people know him really well, especially his processor.

08-20-2004, 06:44 PM	#1
AdnerAdvertising Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,385	How much would you pay for 3000 recurring ACTIVE members? I was getting shitty until I bumped into this... I found a site who wants to sell with 3,000 active members, site looks great! (went through the whole site and i'm impressed). Hes getting a consistent 50-100 sales a day, hes willing to include all the traffic that comes to it and guarantees it to continue to work with his methods already established. Total gross monthly for the site is: 100k - 140k HOW MUCH SHOULD I OFFER? and what would a site that big honestly cost?

08-20-2004, 06:52 PM	#4
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08-20-2004, 06:53 PM	#5
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08-20-2004, 06:55 PM	#6
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08-20-2004, 06:58 PM	#9
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	hmm, where's the traffic coming from? are you sure it's stable? does he have any employees? content (is it exclusive, is any included, can more be produced without too many headaches?) how sustainable is/are the traffic/signups going to be? big risk issues. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP Last edited by quiet; 08-20-2004 at 06:59 PM..

08-20-2004, 06:51 PM	#2
Project-Shadow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,340	I'd say 4-6 months revenue minimum..

08-20-2004, 06:55 PM	#7
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08-21-2004, 11:36 AM	#22
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08-21-2004, 12:38 PM	#32
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Do a search for the 2257 information, there's been so much of it here, I'm not going into it again. As to the descriptor change, descriptors are based on your master code account with the IPSP that you use, and unless the entire master code transfers then the descriptor is not guaranteed to be the same by any means. This I am sure of.

08-21-2004, 01:01 PM	#34
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