And if yes, then HOW FAST? If it's any of the 180 days bullshit PayPal is pulling, then it's unacceptable.

Intersting...

I must have 1st grade reading level, from what I gather from this thread if you use Epassporte have every sponsor set up a new account for you or you might be penalize for a dealing with a sponsor that you are unaware of any fraudulent activities. And, your account is frozen/cancelled until *risk management* returns the money to the rightful owner and all your money in the account is frozen too.

Doesn?t make sense to me that a *bank/visa company* has so much control over ones money. JMO. :(

You have had a recent lobotmy right ???


YOU ARE ACCOUNT C YOU DUMB FUCK.

It doesn't matter if your in on the scam or not , DO YOU GET IT according to your warped theory of banking everyone is a scammer. !!

I just think as far as webmasters go we are asking for a no-bullshit response in real terms not endless drivel about how epassporte have 200000 account and 200 of them are scammers and they are all on here bitching you out, instead of answering a simple question that has been repeated and re-repeated about 50 times so far without a response ( this is by current webmasters not involved with damacash or anything else ).

perhaps sponsors should make better choices in payment systems. thanks for your opinion Kimmykim, but we know which sponsors to choose.
just my :2 cents:

Exactly. :thumbsup

epassporte response was above and they stated that you should know better than to recieve money from untrusted people. furthermore if you want a list of users that kimmykim "thinks" might not defraud you eventually you can email her .. but even with this list you might still have your account frozen. * gee now i trust you *

not only your account will be closed with all money, but all your partners also.

so, they all will think you are fraudster.

when you will call them by phone - they will be very rude with and never explain the true.

this is my situation :(

all my fault is (by the words of epassporte) - opening account with damcash.

all they can say "haha" and offend people without any proves...

I almost missed this one, until someone else quoted you. Please KimmyKim, tell me you're not as brainless as the above makes you look. How dare YOU tell ME whom I should work for and receive payment from? Who are you, the fucking government?!?! If my bank told me that I should be careful whom I receive payment for my work from, I'd go apeshit!

So please, brush up on your people's skills, apologize for the above remark and let's get back to answering some questions here.

did you catch the one word post she made entitled "russians" lol talk about customer service..

Just to be clear here... if I have an epassport account... and receiving money from different sponsors.. one of them has been labeled as fraudulent and sent me a payment... What will you do? Cancel their payment..? Or kill my account (making me lose all my money)?

Oh, so this is what it?s all about. Well sister, as Russian living abroad I give you huge fuck you

and that is why you shut down all accounts down the line.
so let me get it straight.
Someone robs a kid down the street and passes and buys a hot dog from me. I take that money and use it to by food. Later cops nab the thief and he tells them what he did with money?. Cops arrest all three of us including KFC employee that sold me some chiken?

kentucky fried chicken is pretty shady man , they might even be involved with russians too.

i asked that question she pointed me to the rico act ( an act she must not have read )

Sorry, but KimmyKim's reputation in this industry is impeccable. If she says the accounts were shut down for fraud, I trust her.

As far as whether you're in on the scam or not, I DO GET IT. If I buy a laptop out of the classifieds (C) that somebody else bought from a friend (B) who originally stole it (A), it's still hot. Account C still loses if the cops come knockin', right?


Has anybody had their account closed & funds not returned that weren't associated with Dam Cash or transferred from/to a "friend"?

None of these accounts seem to have payments from any other sponsors.

Yeah, I caught it. I thought it would be below me to even comment on it. After all, she can't be that stupid as to not realize that she really stepped in it, can she? :)

When you look up "stupid" in the dictionary, does it have a picture of you next to the explanation?

DamageX - after slowly reading this thread it appears that you would get all your $ back except the fraudlent funds, if that were to happen to you. the real question is how long the process would take - i imagine it wouldn't be quick...

Do you read complete thread?

I write what my account opened by GammaCash and i work with GammaCash and get money from GammaCash.

do you have 3/4 of the people on ignore in this thread or do you have a problem reading.

SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE already stated they had funds seized without any knowledge of any of this nonsense.

No i dont have anything to do with any of the people in this thread nor do i have any problem with epassporte other than the inability to answer simple questions..

In your laptop example above you forgot a few things..
A) Epassporte are not cops
B) they are not just seizing the laptop but all the other money the poor guy who bought the laptop has
C) there are ways to dicern if a laptop is stolen to minimize your risk when buying such an item. epassporte has not offered ANY reasonable way to minimize risk other than to email kimmykim of people she trusts but still no guarantee she wont take your money..

actually it appears several people in this thread are in this boat and dont have access to the money in the account that wasn't involved in damcash payments. So nobody has actually got money back from epassporte yet. On the contrary everyone so far has not recieved money nor an explanation.

Where did you find that info? I need it written in clear, I don't wanna have to read between the lines so that I could find what APPEARS to be the answer. This is MY money we're talking about, and I'm sure yours and a lot of others' as well.

I mean, OK, KimmyKim may not be a people's person, I can respect that. But surely she must be capable of giving a simple answer to what is a very simple question?

Me.

and how in the fuck can i receive payments from any other sponsors, if my account is frozen?

Im not russian. I just happened to signup for epassporte, and damcash was the first payment i received.

I had planned on using it alot. I know triplexcash pays out in epassporte, and I was going to add them and others....

Thank god i didnt have all those people start to send me money to.

Holly shit,
You do know that there is a difference between ?Physical objects? and ?monetary?. If the world worked the way you see it president Bush would have been arrested 10 thousand times? God?.. for once I believe in justifying late term abortions?

I have an epassport account with $25 in it and never ever had any problems with them. on the other hand, I have never ever logged into my account nor had any payments coming in.

Account C looses his laptop ONLY. He does not get dispossessed of ALL his properties.

The question that has been repeatedly asked here is what will happen to your LEGIT money that remained in your account after the fraudulent transaction was refunded. Will they be returned to you, and if yes how fast.

Is it really that hard to understand?

And yes, funds from other sponsors were involved with the damcash accounts, read the thread after all.

My thoughts exactly... :thumbsup

Hey! Somebody replied without insulting me. Thanks! :thumbsup

I absolutely agree. Any legit money from other sponsors etc. should be returned to you after allowing a reasonable period of time to investigate the fraud.

Everyone seems to be jumping to the conclusion that this isn't the case.

KK said she was gone for the night. I know it's easy for me to say chill out & wait for an official response when it's not my money on the line, but...chill out! Or email her directly:

i don't think you'll be getting any more reponses from anyone over at ePassporte in this thread.

Congrats your an idiot.

As long as they are avoiding to answer, this ISN'T the case. I am a customer of theirs, the question has been asked by several customers of theirs before I asked it and before KimmyKim decided having fun was more important than addressing the issue at hand. Stop siding with them for a second and try looking at it from our point of view.

Good point. Let's start another then.

DamageX - that is from page 2 of this thread....that comment is in response to what happens to other funds in the account that are legit...

Not necessarily. She never specified what funds they return, she may as well have referred to the fraudulently used funds.

Well, since this thread seems to have been abandoned by epassporte staff, here's a fresh one for you:

http://board.gofuckyourself.com/show...adid=344528&s=

Those of you who want an answer to these questions, please keep bumping it. Thanks. :thumbsup

I do not have an account with them, but reading this thread makes me wonder why they would freeze all monies. Last I heard only the IRS, CIA, FBI and homeland security were I reside :)

Exactly

I hope someone from epassporte replies to this thread again

All people are asking for is a simpe explanation.

Kimmy will be back... like she told it. You can trust her.

actually she just avoided the question entirely..

The question was if i had 50 grand in my account ( as a domain seller ) and i sell 1 domain to a guy who funded his account with a fraud cc , will epassporte seize my 50 grand...

She then went on to say she would seize the account and all account associated with the fraud.. She however did not say what happens to the 50grand , she made a blanket statement about "it being returned to the owner " but seeing as how the owners account is seized how are they supposed to get the money ??


Basically its like you own a store that sells one item * tshirts , so epassporte informs you someone bought one of the t-shirts with a fraud cc account so they are suspending the 1 tshirt transaction and seizing all the money you ever made regardless of who it came from or why ( god forbid it might even be a russian ) so now you owe money for ink tshirts affiliates etc etc etc..


When your a bank its no big deal to say " ah dont worry about it we are investigating it and will let you know when we might reurn your money "


Show me any business that can simply ignore a month's worth of GROSS INCOME for any period of time.. People have bills, even the big boys have bills and they count on return profit to fund things like advertising , software , hardware etc etc

I dont know why i have to keep giving you examples to make it clear for you, but imagine this.

Your a landlord the cops show up at your door and inform you that last month one of your tenants robbed a store and paid his rent with the proceeds of his crime, so they take his money and all the other tenants money kick everyone out of their homes that paid rent for the month and held all your money pending further investigation.. Im sure you would be thanking the police for "helping out "

i don't have any personal experience with ePassport so i can't comment directly.... obviously it would suck to have legitimate funds tied up due to one jerk sending you fradulently obtained monies. i guess that's the risk one takes nowadays by dealing with this method of moving monies versus wire transfers or checks.

Bump for a possible reply from epassporte ?

Yup, you absoutely deserve a simple answer in black & white.

Unfortunately this thread has become so full of accusations & insult hurling, the question of "when are legitimate funds returned to the account holder" has become muddled.

I'll bump your new thread on Monday if you don't get a weekend answer. :)