Domain Drop Test. 2nd round. - GoFuckYourself.com

Taboo · 08-16-2004, 06:09 AM

Here are the results from my 2nd domain drop test. all domains dropped same day during 2nd week of august.

For this "domain drop" test, I placed 23 domains into the following drop services to see which service is most effective:

Drop Services (these are my bids/prices, bids can go much higher):

+Pool: $60 paid only if caught, if multiple people bid, if goes to 3 day auction
+GoDaddy: $15+, but only 1 backorder per domain, paid in advance, and get credit if not captured
+NameWinner: $30-$50+ bids,
+SnapNames: $60 paid only if caught, if multiple people bid, if goes to 3 day auction
+Enom's Club Drop: $30-$50 bids, but if multiple people bid, if goes to 3 day auction. can get some drops < $20

fortunately I was able to get exclusive backorder at godaddy for SOME, so this was NOT a perfect test.

Drop Scores:

+Pool: 4/23
+GoDaddy: 0/23 - tried to reserve all 23 here. only got 8 reservations... but other domains were caught by enom
+NameWinner: 0/23
+SnapNames: 3/23
+Enom: 16/23 got a few for under $30 which was less than my bids at pool/sn/nw

Glean what you want from my test. Remember, it pays to backorder everywhere. Ok. for those that want to test the waters of the DOMAIN DROP game...

another 3letter is dropping on 8/19:

krs.com

LINKS

for more tips how to get in drop game read my 1st drop test thread:
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=339006

drop services:
http://SnapNames.com
http://Enom.com or http://ClubDrop.com
http://Pool.com
http://GoDaddy.com
http://NameWinner.com
if you want to discuss it further, we've been discussing domains at this very focused and infopacked thread w/ over 6 pages:

more domain info/tips on investing here:
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=4999765

other domain suggestions, ideas to register:
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=339367

recent sales:
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=341282

Brujah · 08-16-2004, 07:56 AM

If you need a cheaper enom account, just let me know. Joining direct will put your price at $29.95 per name instead of say $8.95 per name.

Groove · 08-16-2004, 08:04 AM

Taboo, I like your attitude.

Thanks for sharing

Doctor Dre · 08-16-2004, 08:12 AM

Krs would be a good fan site for krs-one

polish_aristocrat · 08-16-2004, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Groove
Taboo, I like your attitude.

To be honest, I like his character, but i don't understand his attitude at all.
Once again, this is like Wired Guy saying how to get number 1 on Google.

Someone wants to get inolved in the domain biz, he should read lots of threads here and on other forums, make lots of research, read some articles and try things out.
And not read two GFY threads and then he becomes a domain guru within 2 hours

And no, i am not jelous or selfish, i am not bigging on Pool anymore anyway, since i almost never win something and I am too lazy to monitor every day the lists when i don't get these names anyway.
But there was a time I was very interewsted in the doamin market so i spent lots of time researching is and using my brain.
And now people are given the info for free.

ClamSmacker · 08-16-2004, 08:18 AM

Great info as usual

Gindorbrae !

polish_aristocrat · 08-16-2004, 08:22 AM

I had no funds so I was thinking 10 times before i took a decision on which domain to buy, on which domain to bid or how to eveluate the type-in traffic on a name.

And Taboo is saying, he's sharing all his knowledge because he doesnt want people to lose money.
If they are stupid, they will lose it, period.
I don't understand how Taboo can be saying "people don't have knowledge about domains and there are many misunderstandings about that sector" so i will teach them.

Once again, I am not a hater, I am one of the most friendly guys on GFY.... that means i also quite often give some tips to some people ( when it comes to different things )..but I'd never share all the hard earned knowledge in the way Taboo is doing it.

And once again Taboo - no offense, i said it before, i am saying it again, i like you, but IMo you're simply saying too much.

dennisthemenace · 08-16-2004, 08:24 AM

Your threads have been great Taboo

Brujah · 08-16-2004, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
To be honest, I like his character, but i don't understand his attitude at all.

I thought he said he wasn't bidding on names much anymore himself, so that may factor into it. It doesn't really create competition for himself if he's not doing it anymore. It just hurts those who are still doing it.

TheMob · 08-16-2004, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
I had no funds so I was thinking 10 times before i took a decision on which domain to buy, on which domain to bid or how to eveluate the type-in traffic on a name.

And Taboo is saying, he's sharing all his knowledge because he doesnt want people to lose money.
If they are stupid, they will lose it, period.
I don't understand how Taboo can be saying "people don't have knowledge about domains and there are many misunderstandings about that sector" so i will teach them.

Once again, I am not a hater, I am one of the most friendly guys on GFY.... that means i also quite often give some tips to some people ( when it comes to different things )..but I'd never share all the hard earned knowledge in the way Taboo is doing it.

And once again Taboo - no offense, i said it before, i am saying it again, i like you, but IMo you're simply saying too much.

oh come on, the info he's giving away isn't that amazing.. should be common sense that bidding in as many places as possible is your best bet on catching these names.

i do a bit of domaining myself and i think it's very nice of him to help people interested get of the ground. it will pay off for him eventually. he's networking.

rock on taboo!

Taboo · 08-16-2004, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Once again, I am not a hater, I am one of the most friendly guys on GFY.... that means i also quite often give some tips to some people ( when it comes to different things )..but I'd never share all the hard earned knowledge in the way Taboo is doing it.

And once again Taboo - no offense, i said it before, i am saying it again, i like you, but IMo you're simply saying too much.

once again, all valid points. i know you're not hating... I've seen your other posts, you are a nice guy. but i'm just here to network. you know, join forces with people, collaborate. there's lots of hard work involved beyond just reading the info I've shared. I've just listed a few tips and resources, it's up to them to sweat it out. There is a lot more out there. but I get emails from people that thank me and want to trade me their resources/services for some of mine. that's exactly why I'm here.

and bottom line... there are plenty of domains out there for the taking.

here's an example and some ppl will hate these domains, but I need them and they were open a few days ago...

I needed some domains for adult sites (facial, creampie, schoolgirl, cam, pov, etc) and tried to buy some domains on aftermarket via email. The replies were HUGE $1,000+ prices so I went deep domain mining and found these gems:

CheerleaderClub.com
ClubCreampie(s).com, Creampie(s)Online.com
ClubPOV.com, POVclub.com
PPVclub.com, ClubPPV.com
SchoolgirlOnline.com
RookieCam.com
PenisVision.com
DancerVision.com
(The)PornSupremacy.com (humor site)
KinkPorn.com

for other projects:

ToeTagged.com (to go with TeaBagged.com)
HighRollerHost.com (for casino whale wrangling)
DomainFetish.com (for my email addy and for others like me)

2257news.com (links/resources)
TranceSites.com (to go with DJsites.com)

and a few more... for $7 each, and if I wasn't developing for myself, i could build-and-flip quick or just flip the name. maybe not for a million but more than $7.

...back to the mines.

lazycash · 08-16-2004, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
If you need a cheaper enom account, just let me know. Joining direct will put your price at $29.95 per name instead of say $8.95 per name.

I need this Brujah, I already joined directly, but will rejoin to get the $8.95. Let me know how to contact you or post a link.

lazycash · 08-16-2004, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taboo
Here are the results from my 2nd domain drop test. all domains dropped same day during 2nd week of august.

+Enom's Club Drop: $30-$50 bids, but if multiple people bid, if goes to 3 day auction. can get some drops < $20

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I need clarification on how club drop works. The way I read their faq is that whenever there is a multiple bid on any domain it goes to a three day auction. So why not just bid $10 on every domain since if someone else bids its going to go to auction anyway? Unless it means you only go to auction if you are the high bid and someone else bids the same as you? You say $30-$50, is this the range you recommend bidding?

Brujah · 08-16-2004, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lazycash
I need this Brujah, I already joined directly, but will rejoin to get the $8.95. Let me know how to contact you or post a link.

icq me at 3431124
or email me [email protected]

Brujah · 08-16-2004, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lazycash
I need clarification on how club drop works. The way I read their faq is that whenever there is a multiple bid on any domain it goes to a three day auction. So why not just bid $10 on every domain since if someone else bids its going to go to auction anyway? Unless it means you only go to auction if you are the high bid and someone else bids the same as you? You say $30-$50, is this the range you recommend bidding?

You can bid $10 on every name, and go to auction with everyone else.

Taboo · 08-16-2004, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sweetcuties
I've got a typo, the correct addy is

[email protected]

ok. will check all emails after today's drop.

Taboo · 08-16-2004, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lazycash
I need clarification on how club drop works. The way I read their faq is that whenever there is a multiple bid on any domain it goes to a three day auction. So why not just bid $10 on every domain since if someone else bids its going to go to auction anyway? Unless it means you only go to auction if you are the high bid and someone else bids the same as you? You say $30-$50, is this the range you recommend bidding?

but of course DON'T BID ON EVERY name. just the ones you're willing to spend $10+YourRate on.

that's my whole point with major domains that are dropping, people can use these as a stepping stone to get in the game as a spectator on the inside. there's no way KRS.com will go for $10 or $60 for that matter, so it can't hurt to watch it at pool, snapnames, enom, etc. btw, it's already 500 at enom, 750 at namewinner. this way you can learn how/when drops work, how extended auctions work, etc.

M_M · 08-16-2004, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
To be honest, I like his character, but i don't understand his attitude at all.
Once again, this is like Wired Guy saying how to get number 1 on Google.

Someone wants to get inolved in the domain biz, he should read lots of threads here and on other forums, make lots of research, read some articles and try things out.
And not read two GFY threads and then he becomes a domain guru within 2 hours

And no, i am not jelous or selfish, i am not bigging on Pool anymore anyway, since i almost never win something and I am too lazy to monitor every day the lists when i don't get these names anyway.
But there was a time I was very interewsted in the doamin market so i spent lots of time researching is and using my brain.
And now people are given the info for free.

I think his info is more like a newbie guide.

Also, you're thinking wrong. If he creates some sort of gold rush towards domains, i'm sure that is to his advantage. He owns domains, and if prices increase because of demand, his wealth grows.

lazycash · 08-16-2004, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah
You can bid $10 on every name, and go to auction with everyone else.

Thanks, doesn't make sense to bid more and pay more if nobody else bids.

Taboo · 08-16-2004, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by M_M
I think his info is more like a newbie guide.

Also, you're thinking wrong. If he creates some sort of gold rush towards domains, i'm sure that is to his advantage. He owns domains, and if prices increase because of demand, his wealth grows.

you're right, it's more of a startup guide. and I don't need to create a "gold rush" for domains. the gold rush has already been going on for years... this is the second wave and it's a tsunami. I've also been showing people how to create demand for their domains instead of waiting for people to come to them.

(7 pages strong)
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=338092

My domain portfolio is big enough and I don't need to play this game as hardcore as before. I've got enough to keep me busy: Official.com,Curious.com,VIPclub.com etc. I only plan to flip one name a year to pay for my renewals, bills, business plans and lifestyle. My masterplan is to incubate businesses and find suitors. I'm not posting here to increase my wealth or postcount or to bring more attention to my ideas, in fact when I contact mainstream partners and investors they call me "Bruce Wayne" and I only direct them to http://www.InStealthMode.com for info.

Some people find it so hard to believe that "networking" is the most useful and priceless tool around, and its free.

Triple 6 · 08-16-2004, 10:21 AM

i used pool.com last year to get a gaming domain that was dropping... every1 here said go with Pool. They were avle to get the domain but i wasnt the only person who backordered from there. 3 day auction happened but the other bidders didnt show up, so i won.

ha!

but i may have to try Enom from looking at the results above...

DarkJedi · 08-16-2004, 10:25 AM

Taboo, what value do expired domains hold ?

doesnt google drop their PR for about a 12 month period ?

retrograde · 08-16-2004, 10:25 AM

Wow, great information. Thanks!

TheMob · 08-16-2004, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Taboo, what value do expired domains hold ?

doesnt google drop their PR for about a 12 month period ?

how would they do that?

Triple 6 · 08-16-2004, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taboo

once again, all valid points. i know you're not hating... I've seen your other posts, you are a nice guy. but i'm just here to network. you know, join forces with people, collaborate. there's lots of hard work involved beyond just reading the info I've shared. I've just listed a few tips and resources, it's up to them to sweat it out. There is a lot more out there. but I get emails from people that thank me and want to trade me their resources/services for some of mine. that's exactly why I'm here.

and bottom line... there are plenty of domains out there for the taking.

here's an example and some ppl will hate these domains, but I need them and they were open a few days ago...

I needed some domains for adult sites (facial, creampie, schoolgirl, cam, pov, etc) and tried to buy some domains on aftermarket via email. The replies were HUGE $1,000+ prices so I went deep domain mining and found these gems:

CheerleaderClub.com
ClubCreampie(s).com, Creampie(s)Online.com
ClubPOV.com, POVclub.com
PPVclub.com, ClubPPV.com
SchoolgirlOnline.com
RookieCam.com
PenisVision.com
DancerVision.com
(The)PornSupremacy.com (humor site)
KinkPorn.com

for other projects:

ToeTagged.com (to go with TeaBagged.com)
HighRollerHost.com (for casino whale wrangling)
DomainFetish.com (for my email addy and for others like me)
2257news.com (links/resources)
TranceSites.com (to go with DJsites.com)

and a few more... for $7 each, and if I wasn't developing for myself, i could build-and-flip quick or just flip the name. maybe not for a million but more than $7.

...back to the mines.

lol, 'in stealth mode'... i remember back when i was heavy into the domain game, i would be looking up new names to get and 'in stealth mode' a couple times beat me to the punch, by a matter of minutes once or twice. LoL.

i dont remember which names tho...

Taboo · 08-16-2004, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Taboo, what value do expired domains hold ?

doesnt google drop their PR for about a 12 month period ?

value? eye of the beholder. i've let trash drop and seen it go for $500 - $1000+ at drop site. it hurts like hell. If ppl plan to develop, holds great value because google is not the only traffic source out there. I let interneXtexpo.com drop years ago (after I acquired InternetExpo.com / iExpo.com), along with many other internext domains and we all know who owns it now. I'm

and

at the same time whenever I see their domain. re: PR, you are always at Google's mercy, but I've heard the same thing ranging from 3-12 months or blacklisted domains that drop. so, bottom line is if you are buying expired domains for their traffic/PR do hardcore research first. if the name is for development or resale... one man's trash, another man's treasure.

ask that question to other SEOs or at seo chat and you'll get lots of mis-info/mis-direction.

Taboo · 08-16-2004, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sweetcuties
Taboo - I emailed you yesterday regarding one of my domains... wanted to get your advice.

icq: 139389309
[email protected]

if you need to reach me:
sponsorcash (at) mail .com
put "domain question" in subject or will get lost in sponsor spamdrive I'm doing. if anyone has sent me a question or info and did not get a reply yet, go ahead and send it again.

Taboo · 08-17-2004, 03:03 PM

3rd drop test coming soon.
also, launching DomainNews.com in a few days.

SomeCreep · 08-17-2004, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
To be honest, I like his character, but i don't understand his attitude at all.
Once again, this is like Wired Guy saying how to get number 1 on Google.

Someone wants to get inolved in the domain biz, he should read lots of threads here and on other forums, make lots of research, read some articles and try things out.
And not read two GFY threads and then he becomes a domain guru within 2 hours

And no, i am not jelous or selfish, i am not bigging on Pool anymore anyway, since i almost never win something and I am too lazy to monitor every day the lists when i don't get these names anyway.
But there was a time I was very interewsted in the doamin market so i spent lots of time researching is and using my brain.
And now people are given the info for free.

I agree. Taboo seems like a nice guy, but sharing all his info is extremely unwise. Basically, what he has done is created more competition and ensured that when domains go to auction, they will sell for maximum retail value because of all the new people bidding on them.

I know there are a shitload of millionaire lurkers reading this right now thinking the same thing.

Taboo · 08-17-2004, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SomeCreep
I agree. Taboo seems like a nice guy, but sharing all his info is extremely unwise. Basically, what he has done is created more competition and ensured that when domains go to auction, they will sell for maximum retail value because of all the new people bidding on them.

I know there are a shitload of millionaire lurkers reading this right now thinking the same thing.

yes you all have discovered my secret. I secretly hold equity stakes in every drop service, and every domain that gets registered anywhere by anyone, I get a royalty of $.01, but believe me, they add up. Plus, a long time ago I met with the guy who invented the internet and tricked him into giving me 5% so now everytime someone types in a domain name, I get another $.01 - LOL... I'm rich bitch!

j/k.

seriously. it's all about the networking. i'm happy with the emails I get and now I have even more reasons to share.

but i know i'll never hear the end of it.

08-16-2004, 06:09 AM	#1
Taboo Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: I'd rather be networking than not working. Posts: 3,700	Domain Drop Test. 2nd round. Here are the results from my 2nd domain drop test. all domains dropped same day during 2nd week of august. For this "domain drop" test, I placed 23 domains into the following drop services to see which service is most effective: Drop Services (these are my bids/prices, bids can go much higher): +Pool: $60 paid only if caught, if multiple people bid, if goes to 3 day auction +GoDaddy: $15+, but only 1 backorder per domain, paid in advance, and get credit if not captured +NameWinner: $30-$50+ bids, +SnapNames: $60 paid only if caught, if multiple people bid, if goes to 3 day auction +Enom's Club Drop: $30-$50 bids, but if multiple people bid, if goes to 3 day auction. can get some drops < $20 fortunately I was able to get exclusive backorder at godaddy for SOME, so this was NOT a perfect test. Drop Scores: +Pool: 4/23 +GoDaddy: 0/23 - tried to reserve all 23 here. only got 8 reservations... but other domains were caught by enom +NameWinner: 0/23 +SnapNames: 3/23 +Enom: 16/23 got a few for under $30 which was less than my bids at pool/sn/nw Glean what you want from my test. Remember, it pays to backorder everywhere. Ok. for those that want to test the waters of the DOMAIN DROP game... another 3letter is dropping on 8/19: krs.com LINKS for more tips how to get in drop game read my 1st drop test thread: http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=339006 drop services: http://SnapNames.com http://Enom.com or http://ClubDrop.com http://Pool.com http://GoDaddy.com http://NameWinner.com if you want to discuss it further, we've been discussing domains at this very focused and infopacked thread w/ over 6 pages: more domain info/tips on investing here: http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=4999765 other domain suggestions, ideas to register: http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=339367 recent sales: http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=341282

08-16-2004, 07:56 AM	#2
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	If you need a cheaper enom account, just let me know. Joining direct will put your price at $29.95 per name instead of say $8.95 per name. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

08-16-2004, 08:22 AM	#7
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	I had no funds so I was thinking 10 times before i took a decision on which domain to buy, on which domain to bid or how to eveluate the type-in traffic on a name. And Taboo is saying, he's sharing all his knowledge because he doesnt want people to lose money. If they are stupid, they will lose it, period. I don't understand how Taboo can be saying "people don't have knowledge about domains and there are many misunderstandings about that sector" so i will teach them. Once again, I am not a hater, I am one of the most friendly guys on GFY.... that means i also quite often give some tips to some people ( when it comes to different things )..but I'd never share all the hard earned knowledge in the way Taboo is doing it. And once again Taboo - no offense, i said it before, i am saying it again, i like you, but IMo you're simply saying too much. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

08-16-2004, 08:24 AM	#8
dennisthemenace Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: In the present moment Posts: 2,668	Your threads have been great Taboo __________________ All the best to you

08-16-2004, 10:21 AM	#21
Triple 6 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: Location: isN'T everything Posts: 5,394	i used pool.com last year to get a gaming domain that was dropping... every1 here said go with Pool. They were avle to get the domain but i wasnt the only person who backordered from there. 3 day auction happened but the other bidders didnt show up, so i won. ha! but i may have to try Enom from looking at the results above... __________________ SIG TOO SMALL! Maximum 1200x600 button and no more than 30 text lines of ALL SIZES and COLORS. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 6240x4800 instead of a 1024x800.

08-16-2004, 08:04 AM	#3
Groove Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,852	Taboo, I like your attitude. Thanks for sharing

08-16-2004, 08:18 AM	#6
ClamSmacker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Oztralia Posts: 677	Great info as usual Gindorbrae !

08-16-2004, 10:25 AM	#22
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Taboo, what value do expired domains hold ? doesnt google drop their PR for about a 12 month period ?

08-16-2004, 10:25 AM	#23
retrograde Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Little Rock, AR, USA Posts: 235	Wow, great information. Thanks! __________________ December Only - 192 GB transfer, 2560 MB storage, free domain $15.95/month

08-17-2004, 03:03 PM	#28
Taboo Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: I'd rather be networking than not working. Posts: 3,700	3rd drop test coming soon. also, launching DomainNews.com in a few days.