he said he sold it 2 days earlier. thats what I get for sleeping. i already own vipclub and wanted that viplounge badly. how much did lounge go for? under $10k? do you remember his "O" domain? that's the one I bought. Plus I cleaned out afternic of all their premiums. all in one week.

dailyblog would've been nice to add to my blog collection. sexblog, pornblog, etc.

dust? lol. funny thing about corporate america is sometimes they want domains that aren't tainted, not even launched yet. crazy. but once I finish moving to new house, i'm moving to new servers and setting up everything properly. too many domains that end up "owning" me. lol. I need to talk to you for some specialized advice anyway.

it's good to see you're still doing well. How's your empire? better than ever? still chat with webfather at all? i got invited back to chatboard by someone and they told me to contact him again. i had no idea it was still going strong.

sounds very reasonable. ppl who know what to buy are gonna make still serious money. but I'm sure you can easily lost also a shitload of money.

i make an easy $500-2000 a month just buying and selling non regged pretty average domains.

Hey Taboo! Great information, man. Thanks for the posts. I'm trying to sell off my domains, because they're just costing me money and I'm broke right now anyway :)

Here's my list at afternic...I have no idea if pricing is way off or what:
http://www.afternic.com/names.php?best=1&u=8449

Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

taboo: great thread.

avm: shut the fuck up.

Word of advice. Do not solicite names that bare or resemble some kind of trademark. Let the respective company or person come to you. Always have a plan to "develop" that name. ICANN can be a bitch as I found out before.

Oh and GayMarriage.com expired and reached deletion but I was a couple minutes too late.

Does anyone have a close to full proof way of snatching up expired domain names? One that they'd be willing to share? :helpme

so that's is what you do. I always wondered

make sure never to intentionally reserve well known trademarked names in the first place. or even including them in your domain and trying to sell it. bad idea.

i.e.

Ilovepepsi.com

but sometimes, you find a generic or ordinary domain and have no idea that multiple companies will try to sue you, reverse hijack you for the domain. obviously many companies share the same brands, i.e. Delta (air) and Delta (faucets) but only one can own the domain. so if you're the lucky/unlucky bastard owning a domain like that, you have a few options.

(i don't own delta, example only)

"when I launch my site, I'll link to yours." and add very tactfully "in fact, I'm going to make a link on my front page that says OTHER DELTAs, an entire link list of ALL the companies that have offered to work with us or buy this domain, and give them free traffic, including your company"

What I did was simple. Built a bridge. but more importantly, I also planted a few seeds in their mind:

- I'm open minded and I'm a nice guy :winkwink:
- Other companies want this domain bad enough to buy it
- and I subtlely included them in that group of buyers whether they know it or not.
- but I never offered the name for sale, in fact I've turned down offers. and sometimes this is the most important so you don't get labelled a squatter, etc.

Next you ask for all their contact info so you can reach them when you launch and they'll give you REAL info. At least now you know exactly who you're dealing with and you've begun to build a targetted list of potential suitors for your domain. and its easier to negotiate when you know who they are. what you thought was a small business turns out to be much more some times.

great thread, great advice

Thanks for the informative post Taboo!
great info.

I just bought a domain last month.
Around 5K type-ins a day and quite some traffic from other places.
So far it's been a good investment and I hope to make my money back within 2.5 months.

congrats. I'm not going to ask you how much or what the name was, but I would love to learn how you acquired it. What's your story? Was it for sale on it's own website? Forum? Auction? Dropped? did you make initial contact w/ owner? curious to learn what method you used so we get a feel for what techniques/strategies to use. please share what you can, if you can.

great domain. timely too. re: drops, only way to have a fighting chance is get your backorders in everywhere you can. i listed the sites earlier. learn/research before you use any of them so you know what you're getting into. sometimes I have the exclusive backorders for a domain, and in private auctions as well and still someone else will pick it up thru other drop services or personal scripts. there's many more drop services than I mentioned, I'll put together a fuller list of links later.

Backorder it at both Pool and eNom, then get your wallet out for the auction. Those two are doing the best job right now for catching.

I thought I might have been the "Other" Rick!! lol

Good luck on that "O" domain you bought from us... I hope you develop it into something huge!!!

By the way, put in a good word to Verbal about the rest of our domains we have for sale:
http://www.shortdomains.com/

We still have about 200 domains I believe, looking to sell the rest for about $25k. If there's a way to contact Verbal directly, let me know as well. I also have someone who want to invest money into buying the lot for 25k, but he can't afford the whole amount...

You can find our e-mail address on the web-site. Thanks for the nice words bro.

p.s. VIPlounge.com sold for like $2k on a charity auction we did here on GFY months ago... DIRT CHEAP! Needless to say, I didn't make any money from that auction. lol

you wanna see someone with a kickass domain portfolio? just typein 69.com and scroll to the bottom. LOL!

Daymare,

yeppers, National A1 has some kick ass domains :)

You guys run a topnotch operation. it was a pleasure doing business with you. When I launch the big "O", and take it public :winkwink: I promise to give you all pre-ipo shares. If I flip the business to a larger fish I would love to send you, your family and your partner on a nice vacation to thank you for working out a deal for me. I almost lost my girlfriend over that domain. I really am putting lots of hard work into it and perhaps I will contact you because you obviously had the same vision for it. i'm going on a vc roadshow with it in a few months to push it aggressively.

I'm pouring most of my money/time into O right now but I do remember quite a few more that caught my eye. You've got some great leftovers and you gave me a fair price and treated me with respect the whole time. if anyone's reading this. check out their site and see if anything catches your eye. they were quick to transfer the domain and everything went smoothly & flawlessly.

OMFG. :( I would have bought it in a heartbeat. at least I know what starting price to offer the new owners. :1orglaugh

National A1 has one of the best, if not #1 portfolio out there.

besides the ones you see there:

singles.com
teens.com
girls.com
fantasy.com
escorts.com
sextoys.com

they also own:

free.com
friends.com

and lots more like that.

These guys are serious developers and buyers. I know first hand, because once they decided to launch one of their domains in a new industry, they made sure to buy 2 of my domains to make sure no one else had them. gotta love that. i knew who they were when they came to me, but since I had no way of entering that industry then, i sold to reinvest into my own portfolio. not a huge payday for me, but considering that I had less than $50 invested total, they offered me a very fair price under 5fig and wired the next day. we both walked away happy.

Taboo,

yeh they are good people over at nat a1. Sold a good name to them back in 98, and the wired next day np.

Thanks for all the kind words Taboo!!

I think that name has huge potential, and with a great business plan it should definitely grab some VC attention. You did your part in purchasing the domain, so anything else we get from the exchange wouldn't feel right. You deserve any and all the success you gain from here. Do keep me updated though on the site, I can't wait to see it develop. That's a real nice gesture though, and I appreciate it.

If you know anyone looking to buy the rest of my domains, send em to: http://www.shortdomains.com/

Best of luck my friend!

Rick are you selling the rest of those domains for 25K?

This is an interesting thread.

Wish I would have gotten into the domains business sooner.

as with all things investing:)

you are in the domain Biz

but you already have an amazing portfolio. with the money you're making, you can afford to invest deeper in this business or any business, anytime you want. :)

btw, i thought you owned mikeai.com ?

LOL, yep the 2 Ricks in the biz got the gems for sure.

all this chatting is making me wanna get back in the game again. :1orglaugh and I've only gone cold turkey since August 1. it's nice to see the leaders pop up again.

anyone know if wf is still running that co-op? curious where it led.

Taboo will you be at the show?

webfather redirects porno.com to ROAR / Fabulous so i think there must be a reason for that

Good thread. Good info and generously shared.

:thumbsup

I wish. I just moved (still) into a new house and remodeling basement. gotta set up my "MATRIX" home office and the electrician's needs me here to set up my stuff for the extra juice he's piping in. lol. i've got an insane set up that'll probably give me some disease in 10 years. I won't miss any shows next year though. I really would love to network with all of you. i think I could get a lot done there.

seems very interesting..i never thought there are still some non registered names worth reselling

I'm selling some stuff if anyone's got money to invest.

The key is generic traffic.

just email me at jordan <*at*> nametower.com

The drops are too crazy now, I don't even bother with them.

I've sold some nice ones though:
Glossary.com
Counties.com
LPH.COM
RRN.com
RRA.COM
OTP.COM
PKP.com
Syndromes.com
Deport.com
Lunches.com
Does.com
etc.etc.

That name looks familiar. ;)

Nice names, best of luck with those nametower.

Yeah, they've been selling like hotcakes lately too... I have no doubt someone will plunk 25k for the rest of em here soon. If I had time to market these things, I would simply hold on to them and make much more.

Pornaholic.com would be a great email addy.

Rick, you've got some interesting names left on your list. good price for the lot. but if no one bites or you don't feel like waiting, put them on pool.com's new auction site, but before you do, email me so I can give you contact info for people there. i think you could get a bit more than $25k over there listing them separately. Or create a special page/domain without the adult domains and contact a major VC firm to see if they'd like to buy the whole lot for $50k-100k to use for their portfolio of startups that are still under the radar. you'll at least get the price you're asking if not more. a few hours on the phone can't hurt. and you'd still have some adult domains left over to flip. i posted this on another thread:

http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/newrep...postid=4989504
overhang = imagine a fruit tree that's branches are weighed down almost to the point of snapping from having too much fruit on the ends.

that "overhang" i mentioned is industry wide and is considered a bad thing by the people who put money into the vc fund, but it's a great thing if you're a startup or selling something to the VCs. They want their fees/commissions and need to spend money.

Hey :)

Yeah great names :)

(those are some of my top sold ones) :p

I have Funnys.com, rapping.com, and some other names right now.

email me when ranks.com is for sale :Graucho

So you finally sold Lunches.com, congrats.

So you finally sold Lunches.com, congrats.

finally?

LOL.

Maybe i had it for a few months?
heheheh.

Thanks for the congrats though.