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AVM 08-08-2004 11:29 PM

Dcash - You're in Coral Springs, :thumbsup I'm in Deerfield Beach. Anyway, email is on it's way. Hopefully we can do business. :Graucho

sextoyking 08-08-2004 11:30 PM

One way I always saw it is:

Only so many generic / dictionary / good easy .coms to be had.

Millions of business's around the world, supply and demand I guess. Sooner or later they will either approach to buy your / or the domain they want, or make up a bs domain, or use a different sub TLD, .ws, etc, etc

Only so many places to build in NYC, they will buy your land if they want it.??

Taboo 08-08-2004 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
Taboo, I see a lot of circulated domain news within your posts. From references to latest purchases, to comments in regard to some of the titans (Ele, Reflex). However, aside from the well known facts, that cannot be disputed - I see your info to be a bit misleading, and overly optimistic. Very subjective in my opinion, as I disagree with most of your points. :2 cents:

As you stated, to each his own.

so why dont you share some info with us? LOL. misleading? why? I'm not in the buying game anymore. I did not post any of my names for sale. I'm in development right now. I have plenty of domains and don't need much more. What are you concerned with? Their welfare? Or someone sharing the keys to the kingdom? lol.

overly optimistic? i told them to be careful the whole time. you mean about getting premiums cheap. yes, its possible. tell us which points you dont agree with and correct me. I'm still learning.

we're waiting. either contribute or don't. your choice. you afraid of competition?

Taboo 08-08-2004 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
true Todd

Taboo, I can easily see me paying 50k for harmony.com, but as you said I don't see the picture at the moment behind clearday purchase.


Here's a possible scenario behind some of the domain sales:

Company A located in States/Europe/Australia/Canada buys domain X from Company B located in Antigua.
Same people behind both companies. Company A passes as expense the purchase of the domain. Company B receives money and pays the minimal taxes in Antigua. (Antigua is just an example,im not familiar with their corp tax rate,but many such countries have minimal one.)

Outcome: Company A pays less taxes at the end of the financial year. Domain gets some publicity and has a chance to be sold even higher even if the "real value" (if we can say that) is already much lower.

Yes. But this happens within all industries. some for tax, some for PR, etc...

But I speak from personal experience regarding domain sales/buys. I've sold names to mainstream, adult, startups, VCs, Corporations. Licensed them. JV-ed them. Incubated & Developed for others. not a single domain said "FOR SALE" blah blah. I bought from ppl, companies, liquidations, bankruptcies, traded, etc... I won't discuss my sale/buy price and the actual domains in the same sentence because of ironclad NDAs.

anything is possible. I have solid contacts at most large registrars and drop sites. they call me to meet for lunch when they are in my area. they ask me for ideas, suggestions. they ask me why I stopped buying after July. lol. I know the game cause I played it well and I don't mind telling others how to not get burned.

AVM 08-08-2004 11:46 PM

I choose not to contribute for not only is the market already saturated as is, but just for the simple fact I am not here to hold anyones hand. You're kind & courtesy, kudos for your efforts. However do not discredit me as some filthy greedy domain monger because I will not contend with your 8-page essays.

If I choose to contest your thoughts, take it for what you will. Shit, if it makes you happy disregard me as a know-nothing. I choose not to elaborate, as the admiration of forum personalities means very little. Again, I disagree with you. With that said, I choose to not elaborate, nor add any validity to my claims. :Graucho

Verbal 08-08-2004 11:49 PM

Taboo,

I want to thank you for what might be the most informative post I have ever read on GFY. Thanks for your insights and thanks for taking the time.

Let me know if I can ever return the favor

sales at bedroomgraphics.com

Taboo 08-08-2004 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
One way I always saw it is:

Only so many generic / dictionary / good easy .coms to be had.

Millions of business's around the world, supply and demand I guess. Sooner or later they will either approach to buy your / or the domain they want, or make up a bs domain, or use a different sub TLD, .ws, etc, etc

Only so many places to build in NYC, they will buy your land if they want it.??

hope i'm not misleading anyone.:1orglaugh

but yes. perfect analogy. one of the domains I planned on building BLAHBLAH.com was bought because the company owned the "BLAH-BLAH.com" version. and they reserved it after mine. I did not approach them but in their minds, I was competition. In fact, i had already worked out deals for content, category sponsors, tech, etc and when they called me I said, "Not for sale unless you give me enough to walk away from the idea altogether and give me shares in your company." In the end, without ever meeting them in person, the deal was done, for shares in the company, shares in their parent company and substantial cash. in the beginning they only offered me $5,000. they paid far more than that. they had to have the best real estate for their business at any cost. build in the ghettos or build on Park Avenue.

hopefully, those days will return.

Taboo 08-08-2004 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Verbal
Taboo,

I want to thank you for what might be the most informative post I have ever read on GFY. Thanks for your insights and thanks for taking the time.

Let me know if I can ever return the favor

sales at bedroomgraphics.com

just checked out your site. maybe we can work out a barter deal. I put my younger brother thru design school (AI) and now he has no time to develop my websites because he's had so many job offers and sidelines. that's gratitude for you. thanks for your generous offer. i'll put together some goodies for you and we can trade what-you-do for what-i-do. cool. I might even offer you sweat-for-equity deals on my largest projects. you'll be thrilled to put it in your portfolio. will definitely contact you.

Taboo 08-08-2004 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
I choose not to contribute for not only is the market already saturated as is, but just for the simple fact I am not here to hold anyones hand. You're kind & courtesy, kudos for your efforts. However do not discredit me as some filthy greedy domain monger because I will not contend with your 8-page essays.

If I choose to contest your thoughts, take it for what you will. Shit, if it makes you happy disregard me as a know-nothing. I choose not to elaborate, as the admiration of forum personalities means very little. Again, I disagree with you. With that said, I choose to not elaborate, nor add any validity to my claims. :Graucho

so besides not having one, what was your point?

DatingGold 08-09-2004 12:04 AM

buydomains.com?

SomeCreep 08-09-2004 12:05 AM

50 domains.com

Taboo 08-09-2004 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
I choose not to contribute for not only is the market already saturated as is, but just for the simple fact I am not here to hold anyones hand. You're kind & courtesy, kudos for your efforts. However do not discredit me as some filthy greedy domain monger because I will not contend with your 8-page essays.

If I choose to contest your thoughts, take it for what you will. Shit, if it makes you happy disregard me as a know-nothing. I choose not to elaborate, as the admiration of forum personalities means very little. Again, I disagree with you. With that said, I choose to not elaborate, nor add any validity to my claims. :Graucho

you know, i thinks its great when ppl can actually use this site to network, share ideas and contribute. thats why i'm here. share a little, learn a lot. I never said you were "filthy greedy" etc. but you said you don't agree with me. great. I only asked you to elaborate. now you say that I care about being admired, WTF? you're making no sense. just sharing useful info, thought that's what this thread was for. maybe not all of gfy, but check out this thread... the guy wants to INVEST... and i told him to be careful... lol.

and no one asked you to read my ESSAY. and I respect you because I know your portfolio. even the ones you don't list. but since you're not sharing anything... i'll wait for your next informative post that says absolutely nothing.

sextoyking 08-09-2004 12:06 AM

Allan,

Buydomains.com has a very large portfolio of domains :)

AVM 08-09-2004 12:07 AM

My point was to aware you - That you may be able to pull the wool over the sheep's eyes. However those actually encompassing this industry, see your posts/experiences/thoughts for what they're - Bullshit. :glugglug

Taboo, honestly - No hate, or ill will. I just find your constant name dropping, and DNjournal references to be very juvenile/amatuer. As if, you're overcompensating for your own self worth. But nevertheless, continue you on. :thumbsup

Taboo 08-09-2004 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DatingGold
buydomains.com?
yes. but his prices fluctuate way too much. he's told me $5k, when it's $3k on afternic. then when I choose to buy it there, he changes price real quick. lol. then since i express interest, it's now $7k.

that's ok.

he is one of the highrollers, especially catching dropped names, but every now and then I beat him. lol. in fact I bid a name up to $3k at one drop site and then when the drop finally happened, my $13 backorder grabbed it. unreal.

Taboo 08-09-2004 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
My point was to aware you - That you may be able to pull the wool over the sheep's eyes. However those actually encompassing this industry, see your posts/experiences/thoughts for what they're - Bullshit. :glugglug

Taboo, honestly - No hate, or ill will. I just find your constant name dropping, and DNjournal references to be very juvenile/amatuer. As if, you're overcompensating for your own self worth. But nevertheless, continue you on. :thumbsup


lol. laugh all you want. i'm not namedropping if I'm telling ppl to go read the articles. it's called news. moron. If i talked to ppl about the Billboard Music topten, would you accuse me of namedropping britney spears, etc. FOOL. i don't own any of the resources I posted. they are useful/useless to some but dnjournal's top ten is nice way to watch the market. i check it every tuesday evening.

how am i pulling the wool over anyone's eyes. what am i selling them? buying? I only wish when I entered the game, someone like webfather convinced me to buy every dictionary term you can think of. I was an active member of his community for a long time, and well know for my portfolio. i only took a break from domains/adult to make money during the mainstream bubble.

I realize now that if there was an IGNORE feature for gfy, you'd be the first one on it. and hopefully vice versa. lol. call me what you will, but i stand beside my domains. and I don't need to post them in my sig for approval. SPAMMER. just kidding.

Taboo 08-09-2004 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
My point was to aware you - That you may be able to pull the wool over the sheep's eyes. However those actually encompassing this industry, see your posts/experiences/thoughts for what they're - Bullshit. :glugglug

Taboo, honestly - No hate, or ill will. I just find your constant name dropping, and DNjournal references to be very juvenile/amatuer. As if, you're overcompensating for your own self worth. But nevertheless, continue you on. :thumbsup

why are you posting at all? to spam your domains each time:
www.ER.com
www.Glossary.com
www.CRE.com
www.HotLatinas.com


these two go to a hosting page:
www.Glossary.com
www.CRE.com
http://www.hostingrequest.com/hosting-directory/
lots of useful info there. lol. trying to market them or sell them? or make money with them? you're a genius. i never thought of using a HOSTING acct page. wow. maybe you'll put up a 404 next. teach us oh great one.

Taboo 08-09-2004 12:30 AM

Here's some more "namedropping" for you:

Want to get into the domain drop game?
these sites allow you to place backorders.
different rules, different bidding tactics.
different ending times. read carefully.

Pool.com
namewinner.com
Enom.com "club drop"
godaddy.com
and countless others.

in fact i'm going to compile a step by step guide to make it easy for ppl to not get burned. and I sell it for...


not $50




not $25



not $10



not $5









but FREE.

a detailed guide. maybe even scripts, advice, tips, secrets and all the namedropping I can fit into it. and just for you AVM, oh mighty guru, testimonials from real industry insiders that know me, but don't know who the hell you are.

god... I hope the market doesn't get saturated.

sextoyking 08-09-2004 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taboo
Here's some more "namedropping" for you:

Want to get into the domain drop game?
these sites allow you to place backorders.
different rules, different bidding tactics.
different ending times. read carefully.

Pool.com
namewinner.com
Enom.com "club drop"
godaddy.com
and countless others.

in fact i'm going to compile a step by step guide to make it easy for ppl to not get burned. and I sell it for...


not $50




not $25



not $10



not $5









but FREE.

a detailed guide. maybe even scripts, advice, tips, secrets and all the namedropping I can fit into it. and just for you AVM, oh mighty guru, testimonials from real industry insiders that know me, but don't know who the hell you are.
god... I hope the market doesn't get saturated.

Nice Taboo :)

This market has been packed for years, you know that :)

But as Rick (webdad) used to say, there is always some gold / diamonds in them mines :)

AVM 08-09-2004 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taboo

these two go to a hosting page:
www.Glossary.com
www.CRE.com
http://www.hostingrequest.com/hosting-directory/
lots of useful info there. lol. trying to market them or sell them? or make money with them? you're a genius. i never thought of using a HOSTING acct page. wow. maybe you'll put up a 404 next. teach us oh great one. [/B]
Oh no, you posted a link to one of my traffic monetization techniques. God forbid.

In either case, why are you so defensive? Why do your retorts extend into several posts? My remarks hitting a little to close to home? Because after all of your futile attempts to belittle me, I'm still sitting here unaffected, and civilized. Perhaps this is due to me being secure with how I represent myself on this community. While you're on quite the rampage.

:glugglug :glugglug

Taboo 08-09-2004 12:47 AM

and one more important tip for people who care:

make sure if you signup at pool.com to sign up for their affiliate program right away BEFORE you add names to your watch list. It'll help you save a little more every time you bid. And make a quicklink on your browser toolbar that goes to your affiliate id for pool.com every time you login and add names. it has saved me thousands of dollars. but do not add names unless you are absolutely sure you'll spend $60 for it if it drops and you're the only one who bid.

AVM, was it wrong of me not to put a link to my pool affiliate acct so i can make money off all these, what did YOU call them all...oh yeah "SHEEP"... :1orglaugh

I see negative posts just like yours on gfy Search Engine threads when SEOs give advice, the other SEOs try to tell him to shut up, or say BS, BLAHBLAHBLAH. No wonder no one shares here.

I don't care how many more posts you have or how much longer you've been here, you've already told us all the reasons why you're not here.

not here to share
not here to hold hands
not here to elaborate
not here to add validity


but gotta love your sig:

_______________________
Spamming-My-Domains.com
Cause-I-Am-So-Proud-Of-Them.com
But-I-Dont-Know-How-To-Market-Some.com
So-They-Point-To-Dead-Pages.com
Plus-I-Got-No-Desire-To-Help-Anyone.com
I-Am-My-Own-Worst-Enemy-OWNED.com

.

Taboo 08-09-2004 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
Perhaps this is due to me being secure with how I represent myself on this community. While you're on quite the rampage.
you represented yourself just great in this thread. no one knows exactly why you're here. in fact, why are you still here? I'm glad you have a first class portfolio. but it doesn't mean shit to anyone how great your names are if it doesn't help them. since in your eyes RAMPAGE = networking and sharing advice, i'm guilty.

but that's just me. sorry, but i'd rather be networking than not working.

Theo 08-09-2004 12:54 AM

Taboo,congrats on your 100th post :)

Taboo 08-09-2004 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
Nice Taboo :)

This market has been packed for years, you know that :)

But as Rick (webdad) used to say, there is always some gold / diamonds in them mines :)

over-saturated. but always room for more. but the guy who started this thread said he was going to dump $15k into investing in domains, and I've heard that story many times before...and it usually ends sad. at least he's got a lot of resources to check out and then decide how/where to play this game.

Taboo 08-09-2004 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
Taboo,congrats on your 100th post :)
i didn't notice. thanks. i'd also like to thank all the people who made this possible...avm... :1orglaugh

Taboo 08-09-2004 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
Oh no, you posted a link to one of my traffic monetization techniques. God forbid.

:glugglug :glugglug

by the way, I now realize you're crazy. i didn't reveal anything. YOU posted links to it first...

in your own damn SIG...

2 of your domains go there. don't you know where your own domains point? :thumbsup

Veterans Day 08-09-2004 01:06 AM

OMG you kids are still fighting:1orglaugh

AVM 08-09-2004 01:10 AM

No problem Taboo, I enjoy witnessing your wanna-be "big time domainer" tirade. Thus, am delighted I could contribute to at least one thing in this thread; Your post count.

But hey, post count is irrelevant when you've Comcast, Sony, etc on speed-dial. I'm just glad you've time for us civilians, and care to Network with such lesser mere mortals. When you're dealing with some of the top corporations in the World. All within a week, no less. Gee golly.

Fabricate more stories, and continue to sing your tales of fortune.In fact - better yet, provide your identity instead of masking your Whois. I'd love to know who is the current hotshot I am conversing with.

Taboo 08-09-2004 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veterans Day
OMG you kids are still fighting:1orglaugh
Nah. I posted some more domain drop links above, now I'm going to sleep. He created a "Gigli not bad movie" thread. saw it on front. lol. any last shred of respect I had for him, is now gone. :winkwink:

just kidding.

slavdogg 08-09-2004 01:20 AM

Whats up Taboo? long time... good to see you posting again

Hows the progress with your M-o-D domains ??

AVM 08-09-2004 01:23 AM

Slavik is big time. :thumbsup

*bows*

slavdogg 08-09-2004 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taboo
He created a "Gigli not bad movie" thread. saw it on front. lol. any last shred of respect I had for him, is now gone. :winkwink:

just kidding.

hey there is no wrong way to how one eats an oreo cookie :)

Taboo 08-09-2004 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
No problem Taboo, I enjoy witnessing your wanna-be "big time domainer" tirade. Thus, am delighted I could contribute to at least one thing in this thread; Your post count.
LOL. you think I'm a wanna-be? better than being a never-be. you could've insulted me. try harder next time.

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
But hey, post count is irrelevant when you've Comcast, Sony, etc on speed-dial. I'm just glad you've time for us civilians, and care to Network with such lesser mere mortals. When you're dealing with some of the top corporations in the World. All within a week, no less. Gee golly.
Doesn't anyone know how to pick up a phone anymore and cold call? You know, big companies do have phones just like you. In fact, with this amazing "Phone" technology I can actually talk to a "LIVE" person that can give me the extension number of Legal/Marketing etc. It's quite amazing sometimes. This "Phone" allows you talk while another person listens and it even works both ways. You should try it sometimes instead of hoping people find you.

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
Fabricate more stories, and continue to sing your tales of fortune.
I never discuss what a particular domain was sold or bought for. In most cases I can't for 3-5 years. It's what "fancy shmancy" businesses call a Non Disclosure Agreement, sometimes they even make you sign it if you want to get paid. Sometimes I even bring up the topic of NDAs/NCAs and offer to sign one to prove I'm serious. They might even expect me to honor it. wow.

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
In fact - better yet, provide your identity instead of masking your Whois. I'd love to know who is the current hotshot I am conversing with.
Is that what's been bunching up your panties? You don't know who I am, I thought you couldn't care less. LOL. The curious.com whois record is hidden so the name doesn't get hijacked, spammed, etc. while I develop it. I just acquired it. You see, I don't wait for ppl to contact me via whois, I'm doing all the work because I have more control over negotiations. Maybe someday we'll sit down, look back and laugh at this conversation. You can call me "Wanna Be" and I can call you "Never Be". It'll be so much fun. I'll even show you who I have on speed dial. :1orglaugh ever heard of the M P A A?

just kidding... they're not on my speed dial, but the guy who runs things is. :winkwink: I'll tell him you liked Gigli.

AVM 08-09-2004 01:44 AM

Phone? Huh, what is this you speak of.

I just use one of these:

http://www.kidssundayschool.com/Pres...s/canphone.gif

Taboo 08-09-2004 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg
Whats up Taboo? long time... good to see you posting again

Hows the progress with your M-o-D domains ??

omfg. :1orglaugh

long time no hear stranger. I just picked up the other M-o-D for $700. LOL. don't reveal anything to anyone yet. not right time/place. please. you still own the G-O-D? check out the site, i listed what I have and have made great progress.

i also just picked up curious.com, you like?

can you believe that the TABOO name was still available at gfy? lol

Taboo 08-09-2004 01:48 AM

slav,

i've got some koreans trying desperately to hijack some of my domains? any experience? or heard it happen to others?

plus, you remember the other RICK, I just bought one of his flagship domains that I've been eyeing for years. i'll email you if your whois addy is correct.

Taboo 08-09-2004 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AVM
Phone? Huh, what is this you speak of.

I just use one of these:

http://www.kidssundayschool.com/Pres...s/canphone.gif

:1orglaugh

at this rate my postcount will be at 200 by noon.

seriously though, I'll call a truce because it's not fair that I know who you are but you don't know me. because someday our paths will cross and it's best if there is a bridge there. but you are right, there are a lot of BS'ers in the domain world. I'm not one of them. I dropped over $300k in the past 6 months building my portfolio. and my gf's not too happy...

Her: "do you know how big a diamond you could've bought instead?"
Me: "Yeah, but the domain name is an investment in my future."

:winkwink:

slavdogg 08-09-2004 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taboo

can you believe that the TABOO name was still available at gfy? lol

thats what you get for posting as the chinese dude :) :)

Did you see yahoo making your vision a reality recently? few months ago to be exact... if not look around, you'll jump for joy :)

as far as curious.com, NICE scroe
harmony, i saw it, i was a day late... and now a mil $ short :(

Taboo 08-09-2004 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg
thats what you get for posting as the chinese dude :) :)

Did you see yahoo making your vision a reality recently? few months ago to be exact... if not look around, you'll jump for joy :)

as far as curious.com, NICE scroe
harmony, i saw it, i was a day late... and now a mil $ short :(

yeah, yahoo. sony connect.com, everyone. but now when I call ppl I dont need to explain the concept. no more preaching, just converting. so hard calling them years ago, because they were "WTF are you talking about?", 'that's not possible.." I reserved that way back. god. took long enough for technology to catch up.

now companies understand the concept and they're like: "WOW. ok, lets partner." soon someone is gonna say, can we just buy you out? I thought they'd never ask.

chinese dude? lol oh yeah. cause I couldn't get my "taboo" back. you've got a great memory.

harmony.com, I wish I got it too. amazing. can you imagine traffic especially with eHarmony.com's logo making the "e" hard to see on TV ads.

"other Rick" was selling his "VIP" domain and another one, and I got the other one. I'm building something new but I'm not going to compete with google. I'm going to be the opposite of google. not a search engine, more of a "find" engine. maybe they'll "partner" with me too. pre-ipo stock. if that site flies I'm sending "other rick" and his staff on a vacation for cutting me such a sweet deal considering he bought it so high and tried to get it funding for so long.

did you see dailyblog.com drop the other day? not the best, but not bad. tomorrow/today is: communities.net

slavdogg 08-09-2004 02:24 AM

i'm surprised you didnt get that VIPlounge domain, it went pretty cheap too

dailyblog and communities, i saw those.. they didnt peak my interests.

>> now companies understand the concept and they're like: "WOW. ok, lets partner."
I wanna partner with Yahoo, just for the bragging rights of having a partnerships with both Google and Yahoo :)


why are you letting your domains collect dust?? put something on there (like PPC) and make few extra easy $ so you'd least have a bigger buying power.


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