Techie Media

OK heres the question. I have seen MANY Adult Galleries being posted using this host. I was under the impression that they did not allow Adult sites?

Does anyone know what the real story is with them??

Now if they really don't allow adult sites, then aren't all the people that are using them for their free bannerless hosting, just cheating, and are setting themselves up for a major redirect or site vanishing act??

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Doctor Dre

Yeah
but terra.es own your ass anyways ... they are the biggest spanish network ... enough big to buy lycoos you know If they would stop webmasters they would have already done it .

Sloane

I posted this on PC BBS, but one of the options you get to choose when you signup for a Terra account (if my Spanish to English translator is right) is erotica. And there is no where on the site (that i can see) that says dont host adult content on our hosting.
I guess if they didnt allow adult content on their servers they would have warnings all over their signup page.

rhizome

As far as I know, they limit bandwidth but not adult content.

Fucker

terra.es rules! just ask thehun!
bannerless and they are fast as fuck.

Bake

Ok how can you get a account there I cant read spanish at all If someone would help this that would be great.
Bake

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hottshot

ok I translated there whole site for you guys !

All you have to do is go to there english site http://www.terra.com/english.htm

Bake

ok thats great its in English but where is the link to sign up thanks I cant see it.
Thanks Bake

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DarkJedi

there is no link to a sign up in the English version, only in spanish.
BTW, how do you get a 30 meg account ? I only got 5 megs

wiZd0m

Don't say things you don't know about or did not bother to check out. The sign-up is there: http://www.terra.com/SGUP-EN/form_registro.cfm

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DarkJedi

LOL
Looks like you are the one who dont know what you talking about dude - that link is for E-mail registration only




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XM

I wouldnt be so sure about terra.es speed, currently it is fucking slow as hell. No wonder, if currently 60 galleries on Worldsex and 30 on TheHun are from terra.es... I am pretty unsure if there is any server in the world able to handle such traffic without big slowings...
XM

Techie Media

OK rather then a bunch of people just speculating about terra.es, I have sent them a rather detailed letter. I asked them to give me the real story explaining if they do infact allow adult sites on their free hosting. Personnally I dont see how, with No ads at all it isnt possible for them to make 1 cent.??? Iam just very curious to see what their angle is...

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DarkJedi

Lightning, if you get a reply, please post it here. We are all curious.

wiZd0m

Good Point DarkJedi ;-)

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Techie Media

Yes of course i will post it here...As of yet still no reply.. I sure hope they can read english....hehehheheh

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kush

Just out of curiousity, how many of ya'll are fluent or almost fluent in Spanish? I'm almost fluent myself.

Hazen

I gotta second Dark Jedi's question. How the heck do you get a 30 meg account? I haven't seen any options for it, and 5 megs sucks when you're doing movie galleries.

xApster

I belive that this topic was answered on bbs.porncity.net ... somethign about them wanting to be the largest network in europe.

DarkJedi

I don't know how to get a 30 meg account - I dont know spanish, but there is some way to get it.

Hazen

Hey DJ, I dunno spanish either. I've scoured the site with Altavista's translator http://www.altavista.com/r?F09 Check it out, maybe you'll find something I missed.

Gemini

Ba da bing:
In particular, but not exclusively, the User undertakes not to use the Service in order to store, distribute, send or disseminate messages the contents of which (a) contravene, undermine or violate fundamental rights or public liberties recognised in the Constitution, in international treaties or in any other legislation; (b) induce, incite or promote criminal, degrading, defamatory, slanderous or violent acts or, in general, acts that are against the law or generally accepted ethics and proper conduct or public order; (c) induce, incite or promote acts, attitudes or ideas that are discriminatory due to gender, race, religion, belief, age or condition; (d) incorporate, make available or allow access to products, elements, messages and/or services that are criminal, violent, pornographic, degrading or, in general, contrary to law, generally accepted ethics and proper conduct or public order; (e) induce or could induce to an unacceptable state of anxiety or fear; (f) induce

looks like that pert much says it. Its an excerpt from their accept conditions after signing up.

rhizome

That's pretty vague though - what does pornographic mean? Is a teen posing pornographic or is that just referring to hardcore material that may be illegal in some places - e.g. fisting?

Gemini

Its not vague at all. Look it up... photos etc which deliberately arouse sexual excitement. I'm betting they interprete it that way too. They might moss alot of galleries and such on their servers but what happens when they do catch you? Blacklisted thruout the free sites or ignore it and simply delete your site?

Techie Media

Gemini, yes your right. It seems pretty clear. No they don't allow porn sites. They arent inforcing it yet but they will. It just
seems to me (being an honest person), that I would not be trying to cheat them if I know that they really don't allow it. Eventually they will find all these sites and delete them. So this is just my opinion, but anyone putting up adult sites on them is really a cheater, trying to get over on them while they can..

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rhizome

I completely disagree given the context of that sentence. Ask any European and s/he will tell you that a topless women is not "in general, contrary to law, generally accepted ethics and proper conduct or public order." Within the context of the sentence, pornography is used as an example of what is contrary to law, accepted ethics, etc. I would agree that putting hardcore on terra.es may not be allowed given the above, but a teen poser showing no genitals and softcore banners I think is perfectly acceptable given the terms.

Gemini

Apples are apples whether green or red. We use US law and try sending a girl out topless in public. Boom, Obsenity charges and if she bobs em its pornographic. Its better to fight shy of that sort of thing. We're with Lightening. Justifying something thats wrong by any means is still wrong. If those sites dcided to do it, they could sue for big dollars for bandwidth theft. I know the electronic TOS hasn't really been court tested yet but we surely don't want to set ourselves up to set their precedence. Not with all the freehosting out there. And we do have our own domains as well that give alot of BW.
Bottom line is cheating to get something for nothing always comes back on you. Look in the Hall of Shame. lol Where is Lensman in all of this? We're curious about his thoughts on stealing bandwidth.

rhizome

Since when is U.S. law relevant to the TOS of terra.es? And how am I justifying what's wrong? What's wrong in this case is yet to be determined - that's my whole point. What's at issue is not what you consider to be pornographic but what terra.es has in mind when it says it doesn't allow pornographic content. And within the context of that sentence, it remains ambiguous what exactly they mean by pornographic just as it is ambiguous as to what exactly constitutes content that is "against generally accepted ethics." Who know what the fuck terra considers "generally accepted ethics"? For these reasons, I still believe that further clarification is needed before you can unambiguously declare that terra forbids all "adult content."

wiZd0m

Rhizome as a point. When I go to the beach on the Adriatic sea, good looking chicks are topless and surrounding me overwhelmingly. Everything is cool exept the locals who don't like me having all the germans and/or Italian chicks. Is this pornographic? Nope.

When I walk in the park in Canada and there is a women breast feeding her child, people almost try to lynch her with rocks. Mostly someone calls the cops and they fine her. Now you tell me, which system is fucked?

I can pay for my own bandwith thank you. Rhizome is just the messenger here.

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XM

From practical point of view, porn galleries on terra.es are haevily promoted since September - I still havent noticed any 404 error on archived galleries, so it means they really are not that strict. I think they have that European liberal point of view in the terms "if it is not CP, than we dont care". Spray.se is the same I think.

XM

Techie Media

OK I still have not recieved any response to my email to them.. I wrote them again this morning. Yes I agree their terms and definitions are vague at best. I really want to find out if they allow adult content on the bannerless free hosting for a few reasons.
First, if they dont, then there are alot of bandwidth thieves using them.
Second, if they do, I want to know the secret of how they offer free hosting to hi traffic sites with Not 1 single sponsor ad anyware?? This is what started me on this whole quest. Its simple in my book, either they are dumber then onions, and dont realize whats going on.

Or they are setting everyone up for the Big Redirect??

Let's get real, Bandwidth is very expensive, and with No ads or anyway to make even 1 cent on their hosting, Something just isn't kosher here???


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Rose

Jim,they have been around for a while.
And I guess they dont wanna make money
on their hosting

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Dyanna

Lightning, see the Hun's answer to your question here http://bbs.porncity.net/Forum1/HTML/018513.html - don't know if that's right or not, but can't imagine why he would make it up

Techie Media

Hi Dyanna, I did see that. It's just an opinion of Huns. Hun and I are friends, and I respect what he says. I'm in no way arguing with anyone about this at all. I am really looking to get a straight and specific answer from terra.es themselves. I've now written them 3 times in the past 3 days, and still no reply.
I'm most interested in finding out how anyone can host so many sites, incurring such an expense, with absolutely No income from it whatsoever.. I want to learn the secret...hahahahah

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Dyanna

~LOL~ Lightning, I know from your posts that you're not at all one to argue

You are the hosting expert, so tell me if this is a possibility? Either what the Hun said . . . or they are getting ready to try selling advertising on that site? They'll be able to show potential advertisers some stats that are going to show an awful lot of impressions.

As far as it being a big expense - actually it's probably not costing them anything right now? I mean, if they are as big as some people have claimed they are, perhaps they just have a lot of bandwidth to spare. I mean, if I buy a 5 mb/sec line and pay for it monthly, but only use 2, then I still have to pay for that extra 3 even though it wasn't used. So say I opened up a new site, or let a friend use my bandwidth and he used up that left over 3. It didn't *COST* me anything

zgorf

Lightning is just losing more and more people to terra.es and his business is going down. If he post to terra.es everyday it's only because he dreams about them shutting down all terra account so his business would get better again.

Get a clue guys. He's not your "friend". He's a businessman taking care of his business. If he can screw up terra.es, he will.

Doctor Dre

check out ... if they didn'T wanted any porn, they would have deleted it =p and the hun and world sex wouldn't list it ... they are watched . and terra is not stupid . the hun said that they wanted to boost their bw to get one of the biggest network or something .

Bake

zgorf
Its True that Lightning would be worried about bannerless hosting and from a buisness point of view I can understand why but to say he not your friend is total fucking bullshit this guy has been nothing but helpful to me, very easy going.
I see terra.es, submited everywhere and I list them there fast and clean.I still dont no where to get a account though.can someone post the link please.I think it will be all over soon.
Bake

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Techie Media

Hey to all of you who know me please excuse my next few words. You all know I'm as helpful as I can be and usually very mellow.

Zgorf, look you stupid little fuck. You dont know me, and obviously you have no clue about what you just said. First of all My hosting is one of the largest Free Hosts in the world. We are growing everyday and have a very good reputation in this biz. We are not threatened by any other Free Host, in fact I'm probabally friends with the owners of most of them. We incourage all webmasters to use multiple hosts because it's a better chance of them getting more galleries listed on all sites. Not every site accepts all free hosts, (for 1 reason or another).
Terra.es has just started being seen hosting adult sites recently, and I, (as any good business person would do), am curious as to how their free bannerless hosting can possibally work. Also as any gallery maker would be interested in this as well, because if terra is up to something, nobody want's to get burned down the road from redirected sites, or removed accounte etc...

This thread was intended to be a sort of investigative manuver for myself, as well as the other intellegent webmasters here that are a important part of the adult industry.

There is no room here for an ignorant asshole such as yourself. So on behalf of Lightning Free and our staff
"GO FUCK YOURSELF"

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hottshot

here's the link https://altas.terra.es/webkit/nuevo_usuario.jsp

zgorf

Lightning, sad sad sad... you're acting like a frustrated person. I heard that people get frustrated pretty fast when someone else tell the truth. Here's an example. Thank you for your input... but I think people out there are smart enough to figure it out themselve

I guess you're not idiot... so please don't act like one. You KNOW why terra.es don't delete account burning 20gig/day, and it's only because they don't give a fuck right now. Every fucking big "online network" has stats on bandwitdh and stuff like that... why did they upgrade their network in the past 4 months if it wasn't the case? (ie: personal3/ to personal4/..etc)

You don't have to ask them, "how can they deal with that", if it wasn't because it's hurting your business. Saying anything else it taking us for perfect idiots.

Also, I think webmasters out there are smart enough to know that it's not a good idea to put free pages on ANY freehost. Trust me, I'm using terra.es since 4-5 months, and it's far superior to ANY freehost. How many adult freehosts shut down in the past 4 months? Way too many.

If you don't like me, fine... continue to act like the good guy who don't give a fuck about terra.es used more everyday by almost every webmaster. If I was you, I would just tell the truth about terra.es, and I would like them to close their freehost access, because they are hurting my business. I just hate liars. Period.

You're welcome to post/reply any bullshit you want, it's always a good reading

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Bake

zgorf
I review a lot of galleries per day and there are lot more Lightning free galleries out there than terra.es what will happen when they pull the plug and you have shit all over yourself for being a big time guy for 15 miniutes. people like you come and go every day you have your susposed 5 min in the sun and then just fuck off.
These guys are just using adult webmaster to get great stats and then when they get what they want they drop you like a hot rock, use them while you can I know I will but I,m sure this be a 1 off short term deal.I wont be leaveing anything thats not back up on that sever.
Theres a thing called service but you wouldent know about that zgorf because your head shuffed so far up your selfish ASS you only think about the next 5 miniutes.
Pissed off Bake


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Techie Media

Bake thanks for the kind words
Zgorf, your right, I don't think I do like you. I started a very curious thread, and you jump in to turn it into another pissing match. This shit gets old, and in not appriciated by anyone. Nor does it add any usefull information to help anyone. The world is based on fair competition in all businesses, I love this biz, I'm never scared about competition, I just like to keep informed as best possible to others in the same biz. Just as everyone else in this biz. All sponsors like to check out their similiar competition, webmasters like to see what other webmasters are doing etc....

Well I believe you and I have said our sides, so like I said, originally, I would like to know the true facts behind terra.es or any free host for that matter that will host sites for free and have No income from it whatsoever. I would like to learn the "Secret" If there is such a thing!!

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Gemini

We agree Lightning. If we aren't curious and investigate things we'll fall behind. Darn it now where did I put my crayons, have to do more galleries and I better stick to the techology *I* learned in school eh? Way back when Nixon was boss. lmao

Dyanna

jeez lightning. I'm gone for a day and you've got a new best friend.


So . . . anyone want to see some tits?

wiZd0m

Lightning, here is their money making secret. In terms of code, this is how a Terra.es runs:

----- CODE -----

if (Money_Out > Money_In && Stupid_Venture_Capitalists == 0)
decrease_money_out();
else
buy_superbowl_ads();

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mikyz

Hi all!
As the subject says, are there some webmasters that use this hosting?
I take an account few days ago,but i didn't use it yet,cause i have afraid that the sponsor i use,can consider it like a non adult frehost(geocities,tripod etc...)
Am i wrong?
U that use this hosting,have tought about this possibility?
Maybe am i too coward?
I'm really waitin' for a reply.
See you.

P.s Yeah...i know that i opened another thread on terra.es,i'm sorry for that.

Techie Media

Gemini, you got it right, Curiosity is a good thing, It helps us all to learn and grow.

Dyanna, Thanks babe, but friends like Zdork I don't need..... And a BIG YES to seeing some Tits.. Nice tits will always brighten the day, Or a new pic of tams ass, that seeme to always do it also

Wizdom, damm I thought we were friends, now I find out that you had the answer to this the whole time... Thanks for the code....LOLLOL

Mikyz, First welcome to this crazy place. Hey your question is part of what I was originally trying to find out also...
I wrote, terra.es 4 emails now and still not a response.. I'll give up on them now and wait to see what happens in the future.

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Hazen

TiTs! TiTs! TiTs! TiTs!

Thanks HotShot, but that's just the regular signup link that'll give you a 5 meg account. Any idea on how to pick up the 30megger?

Lightning, we all know you're good to go. There's always somebody that's gotta come in and stir the shit up. Any philanthropist could come along and donate a million bucks to a cause and you'd still have the critics questioning his motives.

Techie Media

Hey gang, while i was over at porn city board I saw this post... I wonder if ther is any truth to this?? is the saga is starting to unfold?? http://bbs.porncity.net/Forum1/HTML/018652.html

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