What to do? Catched a sponsor shaving

[PowerCum]

I have just catched one of my sponsors shaving.
It is not the clasical proof like "I signed up and it was not counted" or something like. I have their affialiate program code and there are several functions that shave... and it's not mpa2 but a custom modification of another script and they use it to shave.

Now I have a couple of options as that sponsor still owes me some money.
1 ) As I have access to all their network I can shut them down with all their sites as a revenge for the small sum of near $300 they shaved me this month.
2 ) I can expose them to all the people around and probably see some webmasters stop promoting them.
3 ) Do nothing and just stop promoting that sponsor (already did that).
4 ) Make near 50k accounts for free and post them on all the password trading boards. That will be just funny and for shure will be nice.
5 ) Get all their databases with user data and webmaster data and sell them to the best bidder. After all they have shaved me near $300, so I do not see a reason why not to get my money in any way or another.
6 ) Redirect all their sites to some page that says something like "This sponsor shaves" and then put some of their code and stats as proof. That would be really funny.
7 ) Contact them and ask for some sum in order to not expose them. After all they have shaved enough money to pay me what I would be willing to ask. Ohhh... I'm a blackmailer. I'm bad. I suck... whatever you want. Think I am a blackmailer? Ok, protect the sponsor who shaves. They will be really happy

What would you do?
For now I will wait till I get the money they show me on their stats panel, and after that will decide for some of those corrective actions.

Post your thoughts, screams and blames. Sponsors are also welcome to post here... but beware, if you are the shaving sponsor and you just dare to post that you don't shave then you will see yourself in some big trouble really really really fast.

Blames, screams and questions to ICQ 171216535

[smack]

post proof

[polish_aristocrat]

Number 7 sounds ...interesting.
You shaved me of $300, now pay me $3000 or i will expose you on the boards.

Heh

[shima]

Well.. there are tons of sponsors that shave.. Just let them be, man.

[C_U_Next_Tuesday]

catched=caught

[Helix]

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Number 7 sounds ...interesting.
You shaved me of $300, now pay me $3000 or i will expose you on the boards.

Heh

That might make them think twice about shaving.

[Aquarius]

Originally posted by smack
post proof

[Braincash Fred]

Be 100% sure of what you advance and post proof here

[Steen2]

#1) Learn English.

[SomeCreep]

Post the name of the sponsor and any proof you have here.

[xclusive]

Just so you know there is very heavy fines if you are caught hacking just telling you too watch your back...

[Manowar]

post proof would be the best choice

[Shoehorn!]

I'd say proof, although #7 is quite tempting.

[brand0n]

um
change sponsors and move on with your life.

[stocktrader23]

If you are outside of the U.S. I'd say go with all of the above.

[Shoplifter]

Number 7. No one is playing by the rules anyways.

[Basic_man]

We need fuckin' proof !

[andrej_NDC]

Originally posted by Steen2
#1) Learn English.

Learn some other language than English.

[mailman]

threads like this suck unless you have proof

[Bigjohn]

Originally posted by Shoplifter
Number 7. No one is playing by the rules anyways.

Ummmm.... Great advice..... They call number 7 extortion, but I suppose if he's in jail he won't have to worry about getting shaved... at least not by sponsors

[Spunky]

Originally posted by smack
post proof

Agreed..lets see

[p1mpdogg]

we already paid him off

problem solved.

[yuvalus]

DRAMA

[Napolean]

Originally posted by Bigjohn
Ummmm.... Great advice..... They call number 7 extortion, but I suppose if he's in jail he won't have to worry about getting shaved... at least not by sponsors

yeah, but isnt shaving a form of embezzlement? in some way

[LadyMischief]

CAUGHT... catched isn't a word... And pretty much all sponsors (with maybe 2 exceptions) that have PPS are going to shave to some extent.. It's not a big deal, it only makes sense with the business model they have to work in.. if there was no shaving, there'd be pretty much 0 profitability. When it's excessive is when things get dumb...

[Grammar Police]

This is the little faggot that ripped off TTT from Choker and called it his own. Don't believe anything he says. Someone needs to shoot this little European bitch.

[doornx]

Originally posted by Steen2
#1) Learn English.

In some countries the native language isn't english...i wonder how well your spanish, dutch, german, polish is ??

Try to work it out with them first... if they decline or deny any facts fuck m over

[Raf1]

I would be more surprised if you gave showed us proof of a sponsor not shaving

[QuaWee]

post fuckin proof, lol, plz

[Napolean]

Originally posted by Grammar Police
This is the little faggot that ripped off TTT from Choker and called it his own. Don't believe anything he says. Someone needs to shoot this little European bitch.

holy shit.. i was always wondering about that

saw thumbnailseries.com using cjOverKill... big site, decided to check it out. knew it was just another version of TTT, but wasnt completely sure.

thats been bothering me, thanks for clearing it up

[Makingcoin]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
CAUGHT... catched isn't a word... And pretty much all sponsors (with maybe 2 exceptions) that have PPS are going to shave to some extent.. It's not a big deal, it only makes sense with the business model they have to work in.. if there was no shaving, there'd be pretty much 0 profitability. When it's excessive is when things get dumb...

What is excessive?

[doornx]

Originally posted by Raf1
I would be more surprised if you gave showed us proof of a sponsor not shaving

why does everyone act if it's the most normal thing..

the only form of shaving i find accaptable is the "loss" of hits that need to be tracked...
But setting a cap on the # of months that a webmaster get's paid on recurring months etc. is unacceptable imo

[Fabuleux]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
if there was no shaving, there'd be pretty much 0 profitability.

That's complete BULLSHIT. I've worked for a sponsor that absolutely didn't shave and was very profitable. There is something seriously wrong with your business if you have to. When you don't shave, ratio's increase and webmasters probably send you more traffic which results in more profits.

[xlogger]

I like option 2. You should tell us who the sponsors is.

[MetaMan]

blackmale them to send u extra money, it will work believe me, one person with actual proof of shaving will send shocks through the adult world and ultimatley ruin them, may as well cash in while u can.

[Theo]

Originally posted by MetaMan
blackmale


them to send u extra money, it will work believe me, one person with actual proof of shaving will send shocks through the adult world and ultimatley ruin them, may as well cash in while u can.

[Napolean]

this guys credibility is at 0 with me, i dont care what proof he shows..

he steals scripts and sells them as his own. pretty fucking low to take something someone spent hours/days or even weeks writing.. change the name and take credit for it.. fuck him

hes either stirring up fake drama for sig views to sell his shit or trying to scam someone with information we all probably have already.

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by Makingcoin
What is excessive?

Over say 20%

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by Fabuleux
That's complete BULLSHIT. I've worked for a sponsor that absolutely didn't shave and was very profitable. There is something seriously wrong with your business if you have to. When you don't shave, ratio's increase and webmasters probably send you more traffic which results in more profits.

Only if you have sites with such incredible retention that they make you the payout back, OR if you charge enough to cover the payout. I should add with those programs that have normal payouts it's not really an issue, but the $80 payouts for example hardly pay for themselves.

[spanky part 2]

Contact the irs, I bet they would be interested in it.

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
but the $80 payouts for example hardly pay for themselves.

Now tell us a program that pays $80 per s.u.

[Jace]

somehow I think you should post proof....but if you are inside the US you can be charged with hacking

[Jace]

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Now tell us a program that pays $80 per s.u.

shit, hustler does those $100 pps every once and a while

lots of sponsors do that high, not as their common pps, but as a special

[detoxed]

Getting revenge by hacking or extortion is illegal, regardless of what they did to you.

Posting their info and proof will fuck them over more than you could imagine.

People who have been shaved might also offer you a reward once they see how much has been stolen from them. Also US based affiliates could take them to court for fraud possibly even press criminal charges.

[Fabuleux]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
but the $80 payouts for example hardly pay for themselves.

I don't even promote that because I don't trust it, but don't tell me the big boys hanging around here on GFY with normal payouts HAVE to shave to be profitable.

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Now tell us a program that pays $80 per s.u.

There have been lots.

[kmanrox]

show me a sponsor who doesnt shave and i'll call you a liar.

[detoxed]

Originally posted by Fabuleux
I don't even promote that because I don't trust it, but don't tell me the big boys hanging around here on GFY with normal payouts HAVE to shave to be profitable.

I agree, I think a lot do because they are just greedy bastards, but I could open a program today paying $35 a sale and not shave anything and be making tons of cash.

[fris]

you login to epic cash and hit the contact section in the affil section and send them a msg complaining

[Napolean]

Originally posted by detoxed
Getting revenge by hacking or extortion is illegal, regardless of what they did to you.

Posting their info and proof will fuck them over more than you could imagine.

People who have been shaved might also offer you a reward once they see how much has been stolen from them. Also US based affiliates could take them to court for fraud possibly even press criminal charges.

i once had some mortgage lead sponsor contact me asking my price to hack into another mortgage lead company that he claims to had stolen their leads.

he wanted me to crack my way into their database to prove all the leads matched his... tried tried and tried to explain to him that even if i managed to get in, he wouldnt be able to use that evidence in court.

he never understood... whats so hard to understand about why cracking is illegal?